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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650762 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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OldJG

Rockford, IL

#460800 Jul 10, 2013
OldJG wrote:
John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!"
Clay wrote:
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Wow OldJG... Are you becoming Catholic now?
If I ever get the itch to be a mass murderer or sodomize little boys I will become Roman Catholic.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#460801 Jul 10, 2013
The more you begin to investigate, what we think we understand, where we came from, what we think we're doing, the more you begin to see we've been lied to.

We've been lied to by every institution. What makes you think for one minute that the religious institution is the only one that has never been touched? The religious institutions of this world are at the bottom of the dirt. The religious institutions in this world are put there by the same people who gave you your government, your corrupt education, who set up your international banking cartels. Because our masters don't give a damn about you or your family. All they care about is what they have always cared about and that's controlling the whole damn world. We have been misled away from the true and divine presence in the universe that men have called 'God'. I don't know what God is but I know what he isn't. And unless and until you are prepared to look at the whole truth wherever it may go, whoever it may lead to, if you want to look the other way, or if you want to play favorites then somewhere along the line you're gonna find out you're messing with the divine justice. The more you educate yourself, the more you understand where things come from - the more obvious things become and you begin to see lies everywhere. You have to know the truth and seek the truth and the truth will set you free.

…'cause I gotta tell you the truth folks, I gotta tell you the truth. When it come to bullshit, big-time-major-league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims - religion.

Think about it! Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man, living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day.

And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever till the end of time. But he loves you! He loves you. He loves you and he needs money. He always needs money! He's all powerful, all perfect, all knowing and all wise. Somehow - just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story! Holy shit!

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#460802 Jul 10, 2013
This is the Sun. As far back as 10.000 BC history is abundant with carvings and writings reflecting people's respect and adoration for this object. And it is simple to understand why as every morning the Sun would rise bringing vision, warmth and security saving man from the cold, blind, predator filled darkness of night. Without it, the cultures understood, the crops would not grow, the life on the planet would not survive. These realities make the Sun the most adored object of all time. Likewise, they were also very aware of the stars. The tracking of the stars allowed them to recognize and anticipate events which occurred of a long period's of time, such as eclipses and full moons. They in turn catalogued celestial groups in what we know today as constellations.

This is the cross of the zodiac, one of the oldest conceptual images in human history. It reflects the Sun as it figuratively passes through the 12 major constellations over the course of a year. It also reflects the 12 months of the year, the four seasons, and the solstices and equinoxes. The term zodiac relates to the fact that constellations were anthropomorphized or personified as figures or animals. In other words, the early civilizations did not just follow the Sun and stars, they personified them with elaborate myths involving their movements and relationships. The Sun, with its life giving and saving qualities, was personified as a representative of the unseen creator or God. God's Sun. The light of the world. The savior of human kind. Likewise, the 12 constellations represented the places of travel for God's Sun. And they were identified by names, usually representing elements of nature that happened during that period of time. For example, Aquarius - the water bearer, who brings the spring rains.

This is Horus. He is the Sun God of Egypt of around 3000 BC. He is the Sun anthropomorphized in his life as a series of allegorical myths involving Sun's movement in the sky. From the ancient hieroglyphics in Egypt we know much about the solar messiah. For instance, Horus meaning Sun or the light, had an enemy known as Set. And Set was the personification of the darkness or night. And metaphorically speaking, every morning Horus would win the battle against Set while in the evening Set would conquer Horus and send him into the underworld.

It's important to know that dark versus light, or good versus evil, is one of the most ubiquitous mythological dualities ever known and it's still expressed on many levels to this day. Broadly speaking, the story of Horus is as follows:

Horus was born on December 25th, of a virgin Isis Mary. His birth was accompanied by a star in the east which in turn three kings followed to locate and adorn a newborn savior. At the age of 12 he was a prodigal child teacher.

At the age of 30 he was baptized by a figure known as Anap and thus began his ministry. Horus had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water. Horus was known by many gestural names such as "The Truth", "The Light", "God's Anointed Son", "The Good Shepherd", "The Lamb of God" and many others. After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for three days and thus resurrected. This attributes of Horus, whether original or not, seem to permeate many cultures of the world for many other gods have found to have the same general mythological structure:

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#460803 Jul 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Your God is a tree now?
ROFLMAO
Yggdrasil
So what? Spiritual beings are often compared to or called trees in the scriptures. In the following verse God compares Himself to a great fir tree. Why? Because fir trees are ever green or ever living hense God is ever living.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/hosea/14-...

No wonder that God would compare Himself to the great fir tree that is ever green or ever living.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#460804 Jul 10, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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.. I suggest it would commit suicide.
...
If only they had left the myth at that.....

Oh wait! The Gospel of Mark did.

<smile>

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#460805 Jul 10, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>So what? Spiritual beings are often compared to or called trees in the scriptures. In the following verse God compares Himself to a great fir tree. Why? Because fir trees are ever green or ever living hense God is ever living.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/hosea/14-...
No wonder that God would compare Himself to the great fir tree that is ever green or ever living.
I am all for symbolism and using mythology as a stepping stone to meditation and contemplation.

I do not need to take it as literal fact. To take it as literal fact diminishes and sullies it.

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460806 Jul 10, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!"
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If I ever get the itch to be a mass murderer or sodomize little boys I will become Roman Catholic.
Protestants also molest children.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

WORCESTER, MA. A former pastor Andrew J. Bierkan, 54, at the First Congregational Church of Sutton who now heads a church in Ohio has been indicted here on charges of unnatural rape of a child and posing a child in a state of nudity. He is now pastor of St. Paul United Church of Christ in Cincinnati, according to Worcester District Attorney John J. Conte.(Worcester Telegram & Gazette, August 13, 2003)
Ex-Sutton pastor charged with rape of girl from church

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460807 Jul 10, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>So what? Spiritual beings are often compared to or called trees in the scriptures. In the following verse God compares Himself to a great fir tree. Why? Because fir trees are ever green or ever living hense God is ever living.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/hosea/14-...
No wonder that God would compare Himself to the great fir tree that is ever green or ever living.
:)

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460808 Jul 10, 2013
Milpitas, CA. A secretary to a LDS Bishop has admitted to sexually molesting four children, and will be sentenced to 14 years in prison. Craig Allen Harward, 54, pleaded guilty Monday to three counts of lewd and lascivious acts on children under the age of 14, and no contest to a fourth count of the same charge, Four of the case with the most convincing evidence involved four boys -- two of whom were 10, one 11 and another 13 years old at the time they were molested.(SAan Fransisco Chronicle, March 12, 2003)
Child molester pleads guilty

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460809 Jul 10, 2013
Visalia, CA -- A 38-year-old Visalia man who was a leader in a local Jehovah's Witness congregation may face up to 16 years in prison on charges of sexually molesting a 12-year-old congregation member. Louis Anguiano served until last year as an elder at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses at 5310 Caldwell Ave. He is accused of continuous sexual abuse, over a two-year period, of a girl who attended the same congregation.(The Fresno Bee, January 30, 2003)

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460810 Jul 10, 2013
SUMTER, S.C.- A former youth pastor here has been charged with forcing a 12-year-old girl to perform oral sex in a hospital bathroom, police say. Troy Glenn Clark, 34, of Lexington, N.C., has been charged with criminal sexual conduct with a minor.(The State, Dec. 12, 2002)

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460811 Jul 10, 2013
Philadelphia, PA. In the late 80s, Harbaugh attended St. Paul's United Church of Christ in Fleetwood, Berks County. Harbaugh was 15 years old when she attracted the attention of the youth minister, Valerie Stoop, who was 27 at the time. Harbaugh says Stoops' alleged abuse began with holding hands, progressed to kissing and then fondling. (WPVI Philadelphia, Oct 4, 2002)

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460812 Jul 10, 2013
ST. PAUL, Minn. Two Minnesota women who say they were sexually abused by a Jehovah's Witness filed a lawsuit Tuesday against him, their congregation and the church's parent organization in New York. (July 2, 2002, St. Paul Pioneer Press)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#460813 Jul 10, 2013
who="waaasssuuup"
i'm pretty sure tha we're on the same page KayMarie, but i would go a step further to say that even man's attmepts at doing good/God's will, apart from being born-again of the Spirit of God, are as filthy rags as far as pleasing God is concerned.
apart from God (i.e., His Spirit working in us) we can do nothing good/of eternal consequence:-)
"accept The Lord builds the house, those that labor labor in vain"

**********

True...man's efforts without God are all adulterated with pride and selfishness.

KM

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#460814 Jul 10, 2013
I could go on and on and on with molestations that occurred in various Protestant churches, but you get the idea. It happens in all religious institutions and homes all over the world.

Humans are mortal animals and there's no getting around that issue.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#460815 Jul 10, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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And my point was my bible and yours say the same thing ..minus the apocryphal books .
The CC kept the Mass,and TH e it books in Latin..
Thank God for the printing press..
But people and books were,destroyed for having bibles in the middle ages...your church wanted priests to dispense knowledge .
And while the gospels ..the rest are in the mass ..in decades past..
Catholics. Studied catechism
You all have bible study now..
I was there Catholic Church and school
Baltimore Catechism .much teaching. But no bibles
Now you are just being willfully ignorant and a liar. That is stupidity at it's finest. You clearly did not read what was posted and refutation of the lies. You rather relished in it. The facts are that bibles were in other languages clearly already stated. Bibles were not forbidden in vernacular languages. Bibles were not at any time forbidden to the laity. Faulty translations were. Again grab a book of Moorman or perhaps you can have one with Preston commentary like Mary was a crap mother and just a surrogate body and Jesus called her woman because he didnt respect her. lol You are making a blanket statement that people with bibles were destroyed apparently if any language other than latin and you are pulling that out of your hiney. Learn some history please and not from rubbish that was posted from anti-catholic hate sites with councils that never existed. lol Further did you read the ban from issued by Protestants? Its historical fact.

A Catholic ivented the Printing press btw. It truly is a wonder how anyone became a Christian before the kjv and no not all bibles are the same. There are KJV onlyists and there are protestors of the New KJV. Perhaps you approve the JW bible reworded to fit the doctrine. The Mass was in Latin and it was understood by everyone anywhere in the world, but if you wish to promote that the church banned the bible from all laity or other languages that is a lie. You were the one saying that all you need is John. Fine then you contend with the bible that not all scripture is profitable. Furthermore the only reason you know John is viable is because the Catholic Church said so. You accept the authority of the church that said it is authentic and then you accept your interpretations of the books you choose. Why not any of the gnosis gospels? Maybe you could throw out James too since its no biggie. Luther certainly hated James along with Jude and what would protestants ever do without revelation and your endless spins?

Bottom line is you approved of false witness and are promoting it. Does that give you the warm fuzzies?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#460816 Jul 10, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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Now you are just being willfully ignorant and a liar. That is stupidity at it's finest. You clearly did not read what was posted and refutation of the lies. You rather relished in it. The facts are that bibles were in other languages clearly already stated. Bibles were not forbidden in vernacular languages. Bibles were not at any time forbidden to the laity. Faulty translations were. Again grab a book of Moorman or perhaps you can have one with Preston commentary like Mary was a crap mother and just a surrogate body and Jesus called her woman because he didnt respect her. lol You are making a blanket statement that people with bibles were destroyed apparently if any language other than latin and you are pulling that out of your hiney. Learn some history please and not from rubbish that was posted from anti-catholic hate sites with councils that never existed. lol Further did you read the ban from issued by Protestants? Its historical fact.
A Catholic ivented the Printing press btw. It truly is a wonder how anyone became a Christian before the kjv and no not all bibles are the same. There are KJV onlyists and there are protestors of the New KJV. Perhaps you approve the JW bible reworded to fit the doctrine. The Mass was in Latin and it was understood by everyone anywhere in the world, but if you wish to promote that the church banned the bible from all laity or other languages that is a lie. You were the one saying that all you need is John. Fine then you contend with the bible that not all scripture is profitable. Furthermore the only reason you know John is viable is because the Catholic Church said so. You accept the authority of the church that said it is authentic and then you accept your interpretations of the books you choose. Why not any of the gnosis gospels? Maybe you could throw out James too since its no biggie. Luther certainly hated James along with Jude and what would protestants ever do without revelation and your endless spins?
Bottom line is you approved of false witness and are promoting it. Does that give you the warm fuzzies?
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/ banned.htm
truth

High Wycombe, Australia

#460817 Jul 10, 2013
not worthy expression from man
always woman wrong..why is like that..poor mans phobics story who is better who is not..

Are you for sure Jesus not say man you are not better then woman?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#460818 Jul 10, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you are just being willfully ignorant and a liar. That is stupidity at it's finest. You clearly did not read what was posted and refutation of the lies. You rather relished in it. The facts are that bibles were in other languages clearly already stated. Bibles were not forbidden in vernacular languages. Bibles were not at any time forbidden to the laity. Faulty translations were. Again grab a book of Moorman or perhaps you can have one with Preston commentary like Mary was a crap mother and just a surrogate body and Jesus called her woman because he didnt respect her. lol You are making a blanket statement that people with bibles were destroyed apparently if any language other than latin and you are pulling that out of your hiney. Learn some history please and not from rubbish that was posted from anti-catholic hate sites with councils that never existed. lol Further did you read the ban from issued by Protestants? Its historical fact.
A Catholic ivented the Printing press btw. It truly is a wonder how anyone became a Christian before the kjv and no not all bibles are the same. There are KJV onlyists and there are protestors of the New KJV. Perhaps you approve the JW bible reworded to fit the doctrine. The Mass was in Latin and it was understood by everyone anywhere in the world, but if you wish to promote that the church banned the bible from all laity or other languages that is a lie. You were the one saying that all you need is John. Fine then you contend with the bible that not all scripture is profitable. Furthermore the only reason you know John is viable is because the Catholic Church said so. You accept the authority of the church that said it is authentic and then you accept your interpretations of the books you choose. Why not any of the gnosis gospels? Maybe you could throw out James too since its no biggie. Luther certainly hated James along with Jude and what would protestants ever do without revelation and your endless spins?
Bottom line is you approved of false witness and are promoting it. Does that give you the warm fuzzies?
Actually way back when, the Roman Catholic Church did indeed forbid the common man to own the Bible so that they could read it for themselves. They wanted the RCC leaders to be the only ones to read the Bible and they would in turn tell the common man what the Bible said.

It didn't exactly go over well with the RCC when King James had the Bible translated into Englaih so that the common man could read it for themselves.
ReginaM

Bloomfield, NJ

#460819 Jul 10, 2013
"The Council of Toulouse did ban the possession of vernacular Bibles for the laity without a license; not because the Church wished to discourage the authentic study of Scripture, but because the Bible was used as a tool for the promotion of the Albigensian heresy. In the Middle Ages, Bibles contained glosses, either in between verses or in the margins. These glosses served to guide the reader's interpretation of the text. A decently translated Bible could contain glosses which might lead the reader to reject the Church. Or the translation of the Bible could be perverted to support a heretical doctrine. For these reasons, some very poor and incorrectly translated bibles were burned.

The uncritical anti-Catholic also assumes that because there were relatively few bibles, knowledge of Scripture was limited. That was hardly the case. Catholics transmitted biblical knowledge in other forms. There were books which paraphrased stories in the Bible as is done today in children's books. The visual arts abounded in Scriptural themes. Stained-glass windows were the poor man's Bible. There were Miracle plays, which were the forerunners of modern Western theatre, as well as poems recounting Bible stories. Even the illiterate had access to the Bible through their families. Only a minority of people were literate during the Middle Ages, but sometimes one person in the family could read (often a woman) and the Bible, being the most widely-owned book in the Middle Ages, was read aloud.

The assumption driving this myth of bible-banning is that the Church, during the Middle Ages, was a big bad oppressor who wanted her flock to be ignorant so that it wouldn't challenge her power and her doctrines.

So the charge that the Church was against knowledge of Scripture is entirely unfounded. It's true that in some periods and some places vernacular versions of the Bible were rare or non-existent, but that's not the same thing as saying that the Church did not want the laity to read the Bible."
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