Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 691923 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460143 Jul 8, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Anthony MN
Quite a few around.(smiles)
It has something to do with goats butting heads as well(smiles).
We are stuck in a mindset of wanting to be right.
Really? I don't think that is accurate at all.
I have been in error several times in the last 30 + years in my research. I have accepted it it and regrouped my thinking and continued on.
I do not believe that "religionists" are capable of that attribute.

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#460144 Jul 8, 2013
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4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Oxbow, you add some good points to the discussions and are generally sound in your docrrine, but to continue to beat this dead horse only serves to lesson your credibility and does no good for the cause of Christ. Prayerfully reconsider.
I do not consider quoting Scripture as beating a dead horse...

However..I do clearly hear you...(pray-fully reconsider)...
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#460145 Jul 8, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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I will say this...
Experts are experts until such time that they are proven deficient in their expertise.
I hope no one ever notates me as "expert"....there is really no such thing or character.
Black Thunder 42

The point is that when one person uses, relies on, or attributes to an expert's opinion, it still remains an opinion.

That is why scientists are not good moralists. They merely interpret data based on their own opinions.

I learned a long time ago not to rely on "experts". But I suppose that is for each of us to discover....

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460146 Jul 8, 2013
StarC wrote:
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But....before you said no one is in heaven b/c they are dead.
So now the Saints are in heaven??? Are they alive with Christ since they are accepted?
Like it says in 1 Cor 15: 21- 22.
They are just as dead as the dog that was run over by a semi!
If you do not believe it...dig them up.
Tell me what you find when you do.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#460147 Jul 8, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Unless you know of a dimension below the 1st, there is no possibility of it existing...except in the mind of the one who would perceive it...and that would be an "abstract" rather than a reality for the individual, and even less so for the majority.
Actuality sucks ...doesn't it?
Black Thunder 42

Got to go. I will get back to you on this....
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#460148 Jul 8, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Anthony MN
Quite a few around.(smiles)
It has something to do with goats butting heads as well(smiles).
We are stuck in a mindset of wanting to be right.
Some heads are harder than others. The alpha male reference reminded me of my deceased uncle with 4 daughters and one of the most chauvinistic and domineering Archie Bunkers I've ever known.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#460149 Jul 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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From your opinion, were those Catholic popes that ordered the torture and killing of innocent humans as heretics and witches ... saints???
They were canonized as saints.
Do you pray to them for help and expect to receive any help?
How gullible you are to believe that men can ordain other men and women into states of supposed perfection.
Um, they weren't canonized.

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#460150 Jul 8, 2013
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atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>As a man called by God to preach His Word, that would place me in jeopardy of losing my soul to deny the truth of His Word. however for me to stand against a kook like you(and Robert fits that mold also)is Precisely what God wants us to do.
It isn't His Word that is being denied, it is you who chooses to try and use it to deceive others.
thankfully, not one person on here and that includes the catholics are being fooled by your senility, and if you would perchance to fool some unsuspecting person, YOU PLACE YOUR SOUL IN THE FLAMES OF HELLFIRE.
In other words, you cannot deny the truth in these verses, and you would rather I leave...that will not happen....

See: Son of God, His Son, His Son, His Son, His Father, my beloved Son....

But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Then, after speaking in many and varied ways through the prophets, "now at last in these days God has spoken to us in His Son":(Heb. 1:1-2).

For He sent His Son, the eternal Word, who enlightens all men, so that He might dwell among men and tell them of the innermost being of God (see John 1:1-18).

Jesus Christ, therefore, the Word made flesh, was sent as "a man to men." He "speaks the words of God" (John 3;34), and completes the work of salvation which His Father gave Him to do (see John 5:36; John 17:4)

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

BTW..Your denomionation teaches Christ is the incarnate Son of God...the redeemer of the human Race...why do you not believe what your vatacan teaches????
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#460151 Jul 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="Pope Benedict Arnold
The RCC does not rule God.[/QUOTE]

Everybody that believes in the existence of a god and posts on this forum claims to know what the supposed god demands of human behavior ... yet rarely do they agree on anything.

If religion didn't cause so much trouble, it would be ever so humorous.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#460152 Jul 8, 2013
[QUOTE who="Human Being

I learned a long time ago not to rely on "experts". But I suppose that is for each of us to discover....[/QUOTE]

Do you believe your Catholic theologians were experts at giving advise about human behavior according to the god created and worshipped FIRST by the Jews???

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#460153 Jul 8, 2013
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Human Being wrote:
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Oxbow:
I am hesitant to write to you, as we have great difficulty reasoning together.
But what you are trying to do is separate the Word of God from God.
Jesus is the Word.
If you continue Hebrews 1:2, you find that through the Word, God created the worlds(ages). In other words, Jesus Christ is the Creator.
Are you saying otherwise? Are you trying to say that Christ is an agency, or means for God, or an angel, rather than being God?
All things were created by him, Jesus Christ, and without there was not anything made.
The effect of what you write is that you are distancing humanity from God, whereas Jesus came to bring God and man together. This contrariness to the Gospel message is what makes it difficult to understand your position.
And I don't think you are a Southern Baptist, perhaps you attend, but you don't believe as a Baptist. If you do attend, then perhaps you should reconsider?
Why do you not answer my question???

Does the following verses teach that Christ is God??????

But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Then, after speaking in many and varied ways through the prophets, "now at last in these days God has spoken to us in His Son":(Heb. 1:1-2).

For He sent His Son, the eternal Word, who enlightens all men, so that He might dwell among men and tell them of the innermost being of God (see John 1:1-18).

Jesus Christ, therefore, the Word made flesh, was sent as "a man to men." He "speaks the words of God" (John 3;34), and completes the work of salvation which His Father gave Him to do (see John 5:36; John 17:4)

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460155 Jul 8, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Black Thunder 42
The point is that when one person uses, relies on, or attributes to an expert's opinion, it still remains an opinion.
That is why scientists are not good moralists. They merely interpret data based on their own opinions.
I learned a long time ago not to rely on "experts". But I suppose that is for each of us to discover....
Ironic...I consider their data, but most often never read their discourse...as it affects the interpretation of decision....
Much like the discussion we had early on about H/H2 and HE concerning superconductance and it's properties.
I have absolutely no doubt that my prospect was indisputably correct...and I didn't even have to be there physically.
Is that uncanny or what?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#460156 Jul 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Um, they weren't canonized.
Popes weren't canonized as saints ... and yet they had the final words about how the supposed god wanted humans to behave???

WHY ON EARTH would the popes not be saints???

There's something very wrong with that picture. After all according to your Catholic theology didn't Jesus hand the keys of the heavenly kingdom to St. Peter the first pope???

Please explain.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460157 Jul 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Some heads are harder than others. The alpha male reference reminded me of my deceased uncle with 4 daughters and one of the most chauvinistic and domineering Archie Bunkers I've ever known.
Those that can not listen(or refuse to) can never learn. They have negated the equation before it began.
Where are you in that equation?
June VanDerMark

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Prince George, Canada

#460158 Jul 8, 2013
Why a nun such as Mother Teresa would be canonized as a saint, and the pope would be overlooked by the supposed god ought to be a mystery that needs solving.

If I were a pope, I would demand my money back from "god."

:)

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460159 Jul 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Um, they weren't canonized.
Semantics.
The deeds of attribute follow the entity until the end of time.
Those who "saint"(honour) entities "saint" their good as well as their bad.
It is what it is.
To honour despicability is to be despicable in one's self.
That is why you are told not to "mix" cloths.

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#460160 Jul 8, 2013
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atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Oxbore is not saying that Jesus is an angel. he is trying to prove that Jesus is not God, the Father. and not one Christian is disputing that idea.
so in essence, he is fighting a battle that only he is involved in.lol
Why do you not answer my question instead of bad-mouthing me for showing the truth in Scripture???????

Does the following verses teach that Christ is God??????

But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Then, after speaking in many and varied ways through the prophets, "now at last in these days God has spoken to us in His Son":(Heb. 1:1-2).

For He sent His Son, the eternal Word, who enlightens all men, so that He might dwell among men and tell them of the innermost being of God (see John 1:1-18).

Jesus Christ, therefore, the Word made flesh, was sent as "a man to men." He "speaks the words of God" (John 3;34), and completes the work of salvation which His Father gave Him to do (see John 5:36; John 17:4)

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460162 Jul 8, 2013
Pope Benedict Arnold wrote:
<quoted text>What about the delta female who butts heads because she wants to be a male.
Now, a true alpha male is always right, because he does his home work and is not afraid to adjust his thinking to what is right and true.
The wannabe "alpha" who has not done his homework, and is unknowledgable is nothing more than a fool disguised as an "expert".

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#460165 Jul 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Why a nun such as Mother Teresa would be canonized as a saint, and the pope would be overlooked by the supposed god ought to be a mystery that needs solving.
If I were a pope, I would demand my money back from "god."
:)
Oh That.
You gotta go ta Sicily(like the "new" pope is do'in), where the real DON is. If'a he likes yer deal, you can git some cash an the rest comes in payments (if ya cooperate in/on the future).
That's jist how it works...budda bing...budda boom!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#460166 Jul 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Popes weren't canonized as saints ... and yet they had the final words about how the supposed god wanted humans to behave???
WHY ON EARTH would the popes not be saints???
There's something very wrong with that picture. After all according to your Catholic theology didn't Jesus hand the keys of the heavenly kingdom to St. Peter the first pope???
Please explain.
The good ones were, the bad ones weren't. Why is that hard to understand?

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