Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Feb 12

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#458254 Jul 1, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Hi Seraphima!!! Sorry that you can't seem to get TRUE CHURCH History correct)!!
ALL of the Early Church Fathers were, in fact Catholic.
The Early Church was, in fact, called BOTH "Orthodox" and "Catholic." St. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of the Apostles, calls the Church by both these names as early as A.D. 107. The word “Orthodox” in Greek is “orthódoxos” meaning “right in religion“, or “straight teaching”; and the word “Catholic” is “katholikós” meaning “general” and/or “kathól(ou)” meaning “universally”. >>>>>
Also, the word “katholikos” literally means “the whole in every part.” It is commonly translated “universal.”
Here is what Ignatius says:
"You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church
without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." (Ignasius "NEVER" referred to the Church as Orthodox! In the Apostles Creed was it referred to as (quote)"I believe in One HOLY CATHOLIC and Apostolic Church---NOT one Orthodox Church (Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans)
Ignatius’ point is that the TRUE Church (the CATHOLIC Church –the Church as it is known in all parts of the world) is found locally with the bishop, as opposed to Gnostic cults and other false sects which claimed to be the true Church. Ergo, here as early as A.D. 107, the Church was already known as “the Catholic Church.”...... It would have been known by the name (Catholic) while the Apostle John was still alive, since he died only about 7 years earlier than the time when Ignatius is writing, and NOT Orthodox!!!
Sorry Hojo but your wrong again.....the word Catholic wayyyy back then meant UNIVERSAL NOT AS IN YOUR CATHOLIC CHURCH of TODAY...ONE HOLY UNIVERSAL AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH!!!....Its that simple to understand and if you stop and think about it it makes sense..

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#458255 Jul 1, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Really?
I jist knowed it was gonna happen sooner than later. Thank you so much for informing me of the "truth" June!
I mean if the pope done it, it got's ta be the truth right?
Them protestants was right all along---I jist knowed it!
\It was said right here an now on this topix internet truth source an all...Y'know!
I jist cain't wait ta tell all the folks!
Thank you for spreading the truth of the matter. We might as well start now rather than waiting until after ex-pope Frances dies.

After all ... gossip is truth if somebody or other says it IS truth.

That's religious history in a nutshell.

:)

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458256 Jul 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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The apocryphal books were nit even acknowledged by the Jews as,Holy Scripture
Other reasons
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/apocryph.htm
Some were... especially those in the immediate area(and most familiar with Jesus)the Greeks also accepted many, as did the Coptics in the areas of Egypt and eastern mestoptamia.
The problem arose with the "Roman" (western) factions. They were the[strongest] "power" in the region, and the "victors" rewrote the history(that included the facts). Paul was invented to procure the gentile factor of the empire(400 years later--when the "gospels were elaborated and incorporated)Their empire was faltering, and "religion " was the cure to embody the reunification. When they were secure enough in that, they destroyed and burned any resistance to their "new" theocracy....they destroyed any and all science and intelligent information. Alexander had begun the advance of world progress through education, learning, and knowledge...he instituted the library of Alexandria that would incorporate the entire knowledge of the world and teach world people for it's advancement(it was his dream). From Constantine on it would not even be heard of...it would be destroyed...and it was!
It was a very sad day for the world. The Vatican has much of this still entered in it's secret archives.
It is shameful.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#458257 Jul 1, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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Sorry marge I have been at work.
Yes, if Tony has repented and given up being a sodomite and that lifestyle.
Thanks marge, OldJG
So this must mean that you are judge and jury over heterosexuals that have anal and oral sex with their wives.

My guess is, that Jew will be so impressed with your ability to label heterosexuals as evil sinners that he might wet his invisible self.

Mythical characters can't take too much excitement. It was written ... and I know that is true because I just wrote it.

:)

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458258 Jul 1, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Yup. the same old bigot in sheep's clothing. lol.
Well, I'm off to the 515 daily Mass at the Cathedral.(there are so many statues to worship, I can't decide which one) lol.
Thanls for admitting it. Pan is just outside one if the cathedrals...perhaps you could join us in worshiping his honour.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#458259 Jul 1, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Bull manure!!!!!
NOT cow manure???

It's not nice to favor one gender's poop over the other.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#458260 Jul 1, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<It was a very sad day for the world. The Vatican has much of this still entered in it's secret archives.
It is shameful.
Religion IS shameful.
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#458261 Jul 1, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I already answered that last time. You're an idiot.
You're not at all interested in what Catholics really believe.(in fact, I don't think you're interested in what Protestants do either.lol Scary)
God didn't ask Joseph to take Mary as his wife so they could be romantic and procreate. Joseph was old. He already been there done that.
Joseph was asked to be her Husband so he could provide for Mary and Jesus.
Joseph take your wife but don't touch you bad boy. She is your wife but not really.
You get no privileges.
Catechism stuff?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#458262 Jul 1, 2013
Superstition and religion have always gone hand in hand.
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From the book—Don’t Sing Before Breakfast, Don’t Sleep in the Moonlight.

Women were often considered bad luck on ships. This was partly due to the fear that they might be witches.
…………………
Hair has long been thought to be connected in some way with a person’s life force or inner strength. In the biblical story of Samson and Delilah, the hero Samson was robbed of his tremendous physical power when Delilah cut his hair as he slept.
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It is best to burn hair so that not a trace will remain for a witch to find.
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People once believed that yawning was caused by the devil, whose favorite way of jumping into the body was through the mouth.
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It was feared that the breath and the soul could escape the body, even by means of a sneeze.
…………………………
Hiccups were blamed on the devil. Victims were said to be possessed. Now we know that hiccups have to do with the diaphragm and other organs in the chest.
..........

The ancient Romans were so worried about visitors entering their houses with the left foot instead of the right, that they stationed a servant called a “footman” at the door to keep watch.
..........

But if the left-handed people were the majority, the right hand would almost certainly be the wrong hand.
..........

From the earliest times, people who were born left-handed were looked upon with fear and distrust. They were believed to be insane, to have criminal tendencies, or –worst of all—to be possessed by the devil.

Since: Feb 12

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#458263 Jul 1, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Some were... especially those in the immediate area(and most familiar with Jesus)the Greeks also accepted many, as did the Coptics in the areas of Egypt and eastern mestoptamia.
The problem arose with the "Roman" (western) factions. They were the[strongest] "power" in the region, and the "victors" rewrote the history(that included the facts). Paul was invented to procure the gentile factor of the empire(400 years later--when the "gospels were elaborated and incorporated)Their empire was faltering, and "religion " was the cure to embody the reunification. When they were secure enough in that, they destroyed and burned any resistance to their "new" theocracy....they destroyed any and all science and intelligent information. Alexander had begun the advance of world progress through education, learning, and knowledge...he instituted the library of Alexandria that would incorporate the entire knowledge of the world and teach world people for it's advancement(it was his dream). From Constantine on it would not even be heard of...it would be destroyed...and it was!
It was a very sad day for the world. The Vatican has much of this still entered in it's secret archives.
It is shameful.
What??? The True Church going back 2000 years did this???...MOMMA MIA!!!!..NO NO It can not be! I am shocked!(faints)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#458264 Jul 1, 2013
who="Clay"
I already answered that last time. You're an idiot.
You're not at all interested in what Catholics really believe.(in fact, I don't think you're interested in what Protestants do either.lol Scary)
God didn't ask Joseph to take Mary as his wife so they could be romantic and procreate. Joseph was old. He already been there done that.
Joseph was asked to be her Husband so he could provide for Mary and Jesus.

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You forget that Mary and Joseph were betrothed before she became pregnant.
You forget that Joseph KNEW that Mary was pregnant, and considered a divorce because of that. He loved her (romance) so much that he was unwilling to expose her to public shame, so he was going to do it quietly.

And THEN God spoke to him in a dream, saying, "Don't be afraid to take Mary YOUR WIFE..."

Old man!!! LOL

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#458265 Jul 1, 2013
Dumb animals ... HUH!!!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

From the book—Banting—A biography, by Michael Bliss.

Banting saw one of the rare sights of the Great War; a mass of cavalry galloping to the attack. They soon turned and retreated in the face of German fire. Banting watched as their leader, now riding behind his men, was thrown headlong from his horse by a shell that seemed to explode directly under them. The horse got to its feet, started galloping away, then stopped and returned to its rider. The horse stood perfectly still, while he slowly climbed into the saddle. When he grasped the reign, the horse galloped off.“I stood and watched him go……hurdling shell holes, ditches and the debris of war.” He always remembered, and was fascinated by the intelligence the animal had shown.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#458266 Jul 1, 2013
who="Seraphima" I/we as Catholics, will (continue) to follow, embrace and adhere to the ONLY TRUE TEACHINGS of Jesus Christ, as other Catholics have for over 2000 years, living in the faith and salvation of Christ that is manifested in and through HIS One True Catholic ChurcH---where the inspired and revealed TRUTH has and always (will be))!!!...."YOU Confrinting--- CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!!
Was the Catholic Church following "The true teachings of Jesus Christ" during the Crusades,Inquisition etc.? just asking..

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Seraphima...I don't understand what you are saying in the above post. Please explain.

KayMarie
Disciple

San Diego, CA

#458267 Jul 1, 2013
Vote for Pedro wrote:
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You are absolutely correct! But scripture also says that "the Word was made flesh" and you must ask yourself the original Word of God (the ten commandments)was in the ARC of the Covenant and the New Covenant "Word of God" was in Mary's womb, not yours not mine no anyone else's. So, the only logical conclusion is that, NO, we are not all ARCs of the covenant because we do not, did not and never have ever held the "Word of GOD" who "became flesh in our wombs.
That's funny.
We have the word thanks to Mary. We never heard it before.
Is that more catechism?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#458268 Jul 1, 2013
who="Seraphima"Sorry Hojo but your wrong again.....the word Catholic wayyyy back then meant UNIVERSAL NOT AS IN YOUR CATHOLIC CHURCH of TODAY...ONE HOLY UNIVERSAL AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH!!!....Its that simple to understand and if you stop and think about it it makes sense..

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Agree.
KM

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458269 Jul 1, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You got my curiosity....
Where are you finding info that God actually said: thousands,shalt not EAT of it.
Where are you finding info that the serpent touch the tree...
You are quite ignorant. The "serpent" IS the [Keeper] of the tree and all medical and scientific information. The serpent/snake/feathered serpent[ENKI] is the chief "engineer" in charge of all such information. He is the one who "ordered" Adumus to existance. Your deity is an assumed deity from the bowels of "EL"...A lessor god to Anshar and even Any of Enki. Enlil-Ekki's brother Is your deity by the assumed name of YHWH or El Shaddai.
Why do you think your "deity" was so jealous of other gods? He was extremely jealous of Enki and Marduk...that's why!
Who do you think it was that said "let us create him in our own image"?
It was Enki and Ninhursag!---not your make believe trinity!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458270 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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And I see that you are still alive after testing the supposed god to kill you on the spot if it exists.
:)
Most devout believers are too frightened to put that thought out into the universe, as my guess is, they really don't want to die, just in case their "god" WILL change his mind and fry them in hell rather than the ones at which they keep pointing.
After all ... Jehovah ... the one and only god ... according to theology ... created good AND evil.
It keeps them on tenterHOOKS.
Ya! I am still here June! I see you are also. What does that tell ya?

Wait for the apologetic rhetoric...
...!...2...3...
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#458271 Jul 1, 2013
Jack Chick wrote:
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Anything to avoid the questions.
No god ever appointed such a failure as the Roman Catholic Church.
Just a simple look at history proves that much.
TRUE Gospel?
Question: Where in the TRUE Gospel is Mary the queen of Heaven?
Where in the TRUE Gospel is Mary sinless?
Where in the TRUE Gospel say that Mary ascended into Heaven in bodily form? The Romanist church just made up this stuff over the years. The last was in the 1950s I believe.
Like God waited almost 2000 years to tell you Romanists that Mary flew up to Heaven in human form?
Your Pope prays to Mary. Mary is now another savior. And the Gospels are rendered almost meaningless.
No wonder Romanism is such a failure after so many centuries.
True Gospel? Not when you keep making stuff up to take the focus off of God and put it on yourselves and your self-created gods and saints.
So how has that worked out for what was once the most powerful institution on the planet? Is the power and prestige growing, or is Romanism today a laughing stock?
Tell me about your church.

Surely you can do better than these heretics, eh?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458272 Jul 1, 2013
hojo wrote:
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There is "nothing to argue, and nothing to debate"! The absolute authenticated TRUTH has, is and will CONTINUE to be as it has for over 2000 years) in the faith and salvation of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) True Apostolic Catholic Church..... Our Lord "confirms it" in Matthew 16:13-21 and TRUE Sacred Church History "re-affirms it" over and over again by the (overwhelming vast majority) of accredited Apologistic Historian authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant)........ In the historical writings of the biographical lives of the Saints and in the Church Historical manuscripts of Apostolic Succession since the beginning of the Church, Jesus began HIS CHURCH by appointing St Peter (as the 1st Bishop)as HIS "earthly representative" to lead HIS CHURCH, until HE (Jesus)returns for the second time!!!...... You see June, it is all historically documented---with "nothing to argue about"!!!!
YES!
It is quite hysterically documented!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458273 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
This was the REAL teaching of Christianity. And it continued after the founding fathers wrote the constitution.
The devout Christian, Thomas Jefferson who re-wrote the new testament ... owned slaves.
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From the book … Black and Free … by Tom Skinner … comes the following.
The young Negro argued that while the white man would teach the Negro to love his neighbor, to love God, to have patience, to be humble, he would teach him only while he had his foot on the black man’s neck. He would preach to him about love while denying him the right to a decent job. He urged the Negro to obey God’s word while raping his women. He was telling him to love God and country although his home was burning, his family shot and his property destroyed.
Sounds like typical Mississippi rhetoric ta me sis.
Oh God, Where art though?

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