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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 627242 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#458223 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are on a forum ... not preaching in a church!
A Jew would not wipe away Christian guilt on a bet just because Christians believe that the Jew would be such a sucker.
My guess is Jews would tell you to live with your own guilt of your so-called holy institution of Catholicism murdering them as Christ-killers century after century.
You seem to think you can manipulate others to your cause, but it won't work on me.
What you preach is unbelievable.
Unfortunately for you, June,---the unbelievable has, is and will continue to be TRUE!!

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#458224 Jul 1, 2013
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OldJG wrote:
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Strong #H1121 has man defines "sons" (as characterisation, i.e. sons of injustice [for un- righteous men] or sons of God [for angels]
There are many theories about the Nephilim. Here are a few to consider.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/...
When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense; Therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning.

To say that Scripture teaches "sons of God are demons" or "sons of God were demons"....violates the first guideline to study Scripture...

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#458225 Jul 1, 2013
OldJG wrote:
When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense; Therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning.

To say that Scripture teaches "sons of God are demons" or "sons of God were demons"....violates the first guideline to study Scripture...

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458226 Jul 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Exactly ..corrupt the bloodline of Adam .Cain kills Abel..
.then the Neohilim DNA......then after Noah..corrupt what sons he coukd ..then try to kill off the Jews six ways from Sunday...pharaohs..also the ones they f ought.
Tempt David...then down the road kill off or corrupt the descendants ..Jezebel definitely had Satan as,coach..
And yet David's line survived...hallelujah..
He did not like that curse in the Garden..
And unlike a lot if us he knows God keeps His word
Just imagine his surprise and anger when getting them to kill Christ was the very thing God wanted Don e!!!!!
Death died ..No more free rides ..Jesus blood..the perfect sacrifice opened heaven to the ones Satan hates the most..humans...
Hallelujah. We serve an awesome God.
That is NOT what what was supposed to happen at all.

You have been misled.

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#458227 Jul 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Well the fact that their offspring are giants..super hero's to speak .
Might give us a clue.
My understanding is that these were angels..principalities who were to guard the earth. Who became corrupted by the temptations of the flesh.
Have no idea what happened to forbids angels after their corruption..
Probably aligned with the fallen ..as God was NOT pleased.
They corrupted the DNA if the earth ..am sure Satan was,pleased
That does not change the truth:

In the Scripture that speaks of "sons of God"....son is defined as:
ben, a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc.,(like 1, 251, etc.)):--+ afflicted, age,(Ahoh-)(Ammon-)(Hachmon-)( Lev-)ite,(anoint-)ed one, appointed to,(+) arrow,(Assyr-)(Babylon-)(Egypt -)(Grec-)ian, one born, bough, branch, breed,+(young) bullock,+(young) calf, X came up in, child, colt, X common, X corn, daughter, X of first,+ firstborn, foal,+ very fruitful,+ postage, X in,+ kid,+ lamb,(+) man, meet,+ mighty,+ nephew, old,(+) people,+ rebel,+ robber, X servant born, X soldier, son,+ spark,+ steward,+ stranger, X surely, them of,+ tumultuous one,+ valiant(-est), whelp, worthy, young (one), youth

In that definition, I do not see "fallen angels (demons)". Neither does anyone else....
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#458228 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are on a forum ... not preaching in a church!
A Jew would not wipe away Christian guilt on a bet just because Christians believe that the Jew would be such a sucker.
My guess is Jews would tell you to live with your own guilt of your so-called holy institution of Catholicism murdering them as Christ-killers century after century.
You seem to think you can manipulate others to your cause, but it won't work on me.
What you preach is unbelievable.
I have "no intensions" of tying to manipulate you or ANYONE else! I just speak and proclaim the TRUTH! That is all! The Holy Spirit------the Spirit of God is the "only source" that can convert, transform and change the hearts, minds and souls of people,----- through prayer--and NOTHING ELSE!!
Yes---it definitely is "unbelievable"--but TRUE!!!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458229 Jul 1, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Suppose I open my Bible and interpret it myself and I disagree with your Interpretations. What are you, Jack and Preston going to do? Surround me and shove scripture verses down my throat?? lol
Which one of you guys are the authority on sacred scripture?
None of you are.
Not even (1) of you can prove what, who, when, or why these rhetorics were written...many of the actual accountings were rejected as heresy when they were more real accounts than the "heretics" choices were to make "gospel".

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#458230 Jul 1, 2013
hojo wrote:
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And YOU Confrinting, have defiantly and rebelliously REJECTED over and over again the ""and expressed" words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 16 regarding HIS (Universal-Catholic) Church as well as HIS Words in John 6:47-59 regarding His TRUE body and TRUE blood--in the Eucharist-----attempting to "gloss it all over" by listing a bunch of quoted (or better yet misquoted) bible verses that are suppose to "elevate your status" as a "holier than thou" preacher,(supposedly) led by the Spirit---condemning, judging and attacking the faith of other Christians (especially Catholics)---Lets put it this way Confrinting!!!!!!! I'll continue in my "daily walk, worship and communion" with Jesus Christ (each day) at Daily Mass, receiving Our Lord (every day) in the Eucharist, listening and reading to His Word, in Prayer and Adoration in the House of God (Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church)!!----You, my friend, can have your bible only---"half-truth" editorialized "opinionated" Protestant ministry, along with your other 42,000+ contradicting and inconsistent "relative truth" denominations,of which (every one of them) conflict with each other!!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!!....... I/we as Catholics, will (continue) to follow, embrace and adhere to the ONLY TRUE TEACHINGS of Jesus Christ, as other Catholics have for over 2000 years, living in the faith and salvation of Christ that is manifested in and through HIS One True Catholic ChurcH---where the inspired and revealed TRUTH has and always (will be))!!!...."YOU Confrinting--- CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!!
~~~

I WILL DO WHAT GOD WANTS...

ROMAN CATHOLICISM .....IS NOT...MY...GOD...
YOU WROTE

expressed" words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 16 regarding HIS (Universal-Catholic Church)

I WILL PRINT MATHEW 16:17-19

and PROVE YOU TO BE A LIAR,,,

(Universal-Catholic Church) aint written in there...NOT EVEN IMPLYED

WHY DO YOU LIE...

Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

WHY DO YOU LIE ON JESUS?

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#458231 Jul 1, 2013
Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Joh 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

Joh 6:48 I am that bread of life.

Joh 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

Joh 6:50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

Joh 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Joh 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

Joh 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

Joh 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Joh 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

Joh 6:59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

Joh 6:60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

Joh 6:61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

Joh 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

ABOVE JESUS WAS ALLUDING TO THE WORDS THAT HE WROTE BELOW..

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth;

the flesh profiteth nothing:

THE WORDS I SPEAK UNTO YOU THEY ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE...

JESUS WAS SPEAKING THAT HE IS THE LIVING WORD...AND WE SHOULD INGEST HIM INTO OUR HEARTS...

THIS IS THE FLESH HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT....

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Joh 1:15
John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Joh 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458232 Jul 1, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>let me play your game.
SHOW US WHERE MARY IS CONSIDEERED THE "ARK OF THE NEW COVENANT.
I doubt if you even know what the new covenant is. and that Ark of the Jewish people is not to be found.
roman catholics are idiots.
And why do you believe that the ark of the "old" was constructed according to very specific parameters of material and measurement?
Do remember where and when it came from...it was "stolen" from Egypt, and was most likely the reason for the elaborate fabrication of "Exodus"...it meant death for anyone who even touched the main container(arc itself) which was encased in the heaviest and conductive element ever known. Even in the temple in Jerusalem, men were tied around the ankle with a rope(to pull them back out) because it caused instant death.
It was a two part process that made the "mana".

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458233 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The modernized Pagan religions promise that the goddess loves everybody.
It can't get much better than THAT.
This fellow knows how gullible believers lap up lies as a dog laps up its own vomit.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
I watched a program on Primetime OWN.
The man who calls himself the second coming of Jesus told the person interviewing him (verbatim)... "So you tell the millions of followers I have ...’Dat guy's a liar.’ You know what dey gonna say?...‘I prefer his lies.’"
Here he is, according to him, in the person of Jesus.
… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ifEACinhrAYXX
All of that is "hokey" June...The Pagan part as well. It just doesn't work that way.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458234 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Motivational Quote of the Day
"One of the hardest things in life to learn is which bridge to cross and which bridge to burn."
David Russell
HA!
One crosses bridges to meet enemy's...one burns them to stay them...
You should be well aware of this by now....

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458235 Jul 1, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Gee I'm shocked. Confrint condemned me to Hell with another scripture verse.
Is Jesus Christ the Word of God made flesh or not?
Is the ten commandments the word of God??
Tell me, if the Ark that carried the Word of God was so Holy, people couldn't peer into it.... how much more Holy would the Ark that carried God HIMSELF be??
You think you really solved that problem by stating that Mary wasn't an Ark? Come on man. She brought forth the word of God. That is sola scripture in its basic form.
OH. Did your deity breath and speak on Mary's "broken water" too?
That would be the equivalent of eating "PIG"(afterbirth) wouldn't it?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458236 Jul 1, 2013
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Not at all. What the scriptures say is that God dwells in believers. Does that not make all believers 'ARKS'? Are do you define arks diferently? Also your 'definition' does not fit the 'Ark of the Covenant'. So your definition is not the guage for answering the question.
No. That simply makes one a "vessel"...there is no "covenant necessary for belief or deception....something you might want to think about.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#458237 Jul 1, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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The apocryphal books were nit even acknowledged by the Jews as,Holy Scripture
Other reasons
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/apocryph.htm
I went over your link, Rose. They are using deception in order to denounce the Apocrypha.
That should be a red flag to steer clear of jesus-is-lord.com .

In the coming yrs, you're going to see those kinda Ministers grow very bitter and angry. They are going to lose congregants to the Catholic Church. It's already happening...Career Ministers like Confrint and Preston are scrambling around becoming more and more hateful as they see their theology come crumbling down. You heard Preston completely trash the Blessed Virgin Mary, didn't you? That's just the tip of the iceberg. These guys can't stop the truth from reaching their followers.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458238 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Imagine this if you will.
Theology for idiots.
The god created Adam and Eve knowing they would sin and they and all following generations would have to suffer FOR Adam and Eve's own sin.
Meanwhile the god blessed the souls that stayed in his present and chose NOT to be sinners.
If such a god exists he suffers from extreme schizophrenia. NO question about it.
My sentiments exactly.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458239 Jul 1, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>You know what burns my arse?
A flame about that() big.
Actually yes.
You are never suppose to use more than the occasion dictates for success. That would bring unwanted notoriety to the occasion(instance) and subject one's superiors to unwarranted speculation and possible publication(which would be disastrous for them and yourself).

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458240 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Isn't it fascinating how the religious right-fighters ALWAYS point to others as sinners, evil and fallen fodder for hell???
They are quite the PLAYERS with man-YOU-fractured words!
It is a practice indelled by their "teachers". It always defers the premise or action onto another or another faction other than the causation(prime actuality). It is actually an action of subterfuge. It serves it purpose in most cases.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#458241 Jul 1, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Getting a "testy" aren't you---June!! That's what happens when you reject God, Jesus and His One True Catholic Church!!
I can not recall anywhere in scripture that "GOD" or "Jesus" ever referred at any time to the Catholic Church....let alone to it being the "one true" church.
Do show us all where that is stated in anything Jesus said....
Put up or shut up!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#458242 Jul 1, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Why don't you argue the point of my post? Just because you believe your imagination is all powerful, doesn't mean you can manipulate a Jew into Catholicism by your own will.
June VanDerMark wrote:
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YEAH ... Well when you can prove that a Jew finds your Catholic religion and you irresistible ... you might have a credible pulpit on which to stand.
Until then, your preaching about your own value to a god is meaningless to me.
Problem be'in, he can't logically argue either...

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