Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457870 Jun 30, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know for sure.
I think if we taught our folks proper discourse and understanding in the first place, we would not be in the fix we are now.
The Abrahamic religions and Romans are the main agents for the destruction of that premise of peaceful common practice.
Black Thunder 42:

"To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose...." Ecclesiastes 3:1-9

No one to blame. Its just part of the seasons....

We are just in a time that is connected to the past but lost in the present. It seems like it is late winter/early spring, when the seed has been planted, but before it has sprouted. Everyone is looking for the sprouts to appear outside, when they need to look inside instead.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#457871 Jun 30, 2013
Jack Chick wrote:
<quoted text>
Truly you are blessed. Every day God reveals more to enlighten us about the Romanists.
Just yesterday, a new scandal. It is interesting to see how Satan runs a bank. It is tragic to see how the sheep look away. I pray for them.
~~~

There are so many distractions today that those that are true Born again Christians have to ignore the garbage that surrounds us to keep our mines centered on the things of God...

Is it not a wonder that there is such a falling away...

2Th_2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

JESUS SAID
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WE HAVE THIS PROMIS

Isa_26:3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457872 Jun 30, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
So long as one recognizes that, then they can interact with dignity and understanding to a greater degree. I rarely answer a posit without inspecting it fully and as fairly as possible...I do miss once in a while.
Black Thunder 42:

It all goes along with what you give, is what you get back(and sometimes it is multiplied).

If one answers complacently, that's what they get back. Kind of a self-soothing narcotic.

Some people like to answer with an "up in your face" attitude. And they get it back in return....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#457873 Jun 30, 2013
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

THE SCRIPTURE ABOVE IS NOT ALLUDING/REFERENCING

THE KINGDOM OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH..

THEY TEACH THAT HEY ARE THE ONLY NATION GOING TO HEAVEN..

THE TRUE KINGDOM OF GOD ,,,is in the herts of believers that are born again

Jesus said

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#457874 Jun 30, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>BIG DIFFERENCE. I WONT DEFEND, MINIMIZE, RATIONALIZE,SPIN,ACCUSE MEDIA, OR POINT FINGERS ELSEWHERE AS YOU AND OTHERS DO. I ALSO DO NOT CLAIM TO BE THE TRUE CHURCH ABOVE ALLOTHERS WHICH ARE THEN NOT REAL CHURCHES.INSTEAD I SAY CLEAN UP. PINISH THE GUILTY.
Preach to your wife she is the one posting garbage, calling the church and abortion among other names and saying real Orthodox believe its the true church. Maybe if you weren't such a spinless insufferable sanctimonious idiot you could see that. All the Catholics want things cleaned up. Do you know there was only 1 credible allegation last year? The church has done alot, but cases from years ago will continue to be dredged. Nobody is justifying any of it, but when your wife and you attack the church and say its way worse now then and in the past you really need to get the log out of your eyes you sanctimonious self righteous hypocrites. I Stand by my my words that the sins of men are not the teachings of the church. You are truly insufferable with your doublespeak and selective bs. Canon 28 ROTFL and Canon 29 Hermetics are the faith. I have no desire to try to discuss anything rational with you as you have demonstrated you are a liar and deceiver many times. You are whiny little baby and you are no scholar of any kind and please quit pretending you have a clue about many things. I truly feel sorry for anyone that you may have counseled. Texas, NY whereever Orthodox are you have lots of problems. I dont recall any Catholic attacking the Orthodox church, but you and your wife seem to have a need to do so. The Protestants could care less about your church, but you sure get excited for someone who doesnt care what people on an anonymous forum say. You can preston can cry together as he needs me to be a woman so he can feel better about all the times he was put in his place. I dont have the desire nor time to argue the nonsense of complete baffoons like you. Many of the things you post Orthodox scholars and theologians know are rubbish. You choose your faith on your own terms so be it. You have plenty of Orthodox you can argue your rubbish with.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#457875 Jun 30, 2013
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

To be BORN AGAIN.

follow these instructions

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

..
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#457876 Jun 30, 2013
Jack Chick wrote:
<quoted text>
Many hear the Gospel. Some truly repent. Some just play religion.
Yes!!..Many hear the TRUE Gospel and TRULY repent! Jack Chick school of "heretical theology" just plays editorialized "relative truth" religion!!!
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457877 Jun 30, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
He's generally not wrong it what he says, just needs some 'salt'.
marge:

Although Preston and I butt heads together here, I agree with you.

But maybe he needs some "honey" instead of salt?(smiles)

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#457878 Jun 30, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Preach to your wife she is the one posting garbage, calling the church and abortion among other names and saying real Orthodox believe its the true church. Maybe if you weren't such a spinless insufferable sanctimonious idiot you could see that. All the Catholics want things cleaned up. Do you know there was only 1 credible allegation last year? The church has done alot, but cases from years ago will continue to be dredged. Nobody is justifying any of it, but when your wife and you attack the church and say its way worse now then and in the past you really need to get the log out of your eyes you sanctimonious self righteous hypocrites. I Stand by my my words that the sins of men are not the teachings of the church. You are truly insufferable with your doublespeak and selective bs. Canon 28 ROTFL and Canon 29 Hermetics are the faith. I have no desire to try to discuss anything rational with you as you have demonstrated you are a liar and deceiver many times. You are whiny little baby and you are no scholar of any kind and please quit pretending you have a clue about many things. I truly feel sorry for anyone that you may have counseled. Texas, NY whereever Orthodox are you have lots of problems. I dont recall any Catholic attacking the Orthodox church, but you and your wife seem to have a need to do so. The Protestants could care less about your church, but you sure get excited for someone who doesnt care what people on an anonymous forum say. You can preston can cry together as he needs me to be a woman so he can feel better about all the times he was put in his place. I dont have the desire nor time to argue the nonsense of complete baffoons like you. Many of the things you post Orthodox scholars and theologians know are rubbish. You choose your faith on your own terms so be it. You have plenty of Orthodox you can argue your rubbish with.
You have er ALOT of hatred and anger inside of you. GET HELP!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#457879 Jun 30, 2013
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

2Sa_22:47 The LORD liveth; and blessed be my rock; and exalted be the God of the rock of my salvation.

Gen_49:18 I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.

SALVATION DEFINED IN HEBREW

H3444
&#1497;&#1513;&#14 73;&#1493;&#1468;& #1506;&#1492;
yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h
yesh-oo'-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is,(abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity:- deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#457880 Jun 30, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
marge:
Although Preston and I butt heads together here, I agree with you.
But maybe he needs some "honey" instead of salt?(smiles)
salt is a preservative, as the Holy Ghost Preserves those who know Him.

the "honey" that you spread on here might taste good for awhile but when it gets to the belly, it will be bitter.

so your search might taste like honey but in the hell that you enter, it will be very bitter
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457881 Jun 30, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Me too. Defense Mechanisms are absolutely necessary to survival. it is when they are used in the harm of self and others that they are dysfunctional. So I say pour the ouzo, break the glass, and dance!!!!
Hermi:

And be good!!!!

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#457882 Jun 30, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Preach to your wife she is the one posting garbage, calling the church and abortion among other names and saying real Orthodox believe its the true church. Maybe if you weren't such a spinless insufferable sanctimonious idiot you could see that. All the Catholics want things cleaned up. Do you know there was only 1 credible allegation last year? The church has done alot, but cases from years ago will continue to be dredged. Nobody is justifying any of it, but when your wife and you attack the church and say its way worse now then and in the past you really need to get the log out of your eyes you sanctimonious self righteous hypocrites. I Stand by my my words that the sins of men are not the teachings of the church. You are truly insufferable with your doublespeak and selective bs. Canon 28 ROTFL and Canon 29 Hermetics are the faith. I have no desire to try to discuss anything rational with you as you have demonstrated you are a liar and deceiver many times. You are whiny little baby and you are no scholar of any kind and please quit pretending you have a clue about many things. I truly feel sorry for anyone that you may have counseled. Texas, NY whereever Orthodox are you have lots of problems. I dont recall any Catholic attacking the Orthodox church, but you and your wife seem to have a need to do so. The Protestants could care less about your church, but you sure get excited for someone who doesnt care what people on an anonymous forum say. You can preston can cry together as he needs me to be a woman so he can feel better about all the times he was put in his place. I dont have the desire nor time to argue the nonsense of complete baffoons like you. Many of the things you post Orthodox scholars and theologians know are rubbish. You choose your faith on your own terms so be it. You have plenty of Orthodox you can argue your rubbish with.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2013/06/28/nunzio-scarano-vati can-official-arrested_n_351477 9.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/12/us-...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/28/va...
Wanna borrow my log?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#457883 Jun 30, 2013
this is the day that the Lord has given us,

let us rejoice in it.

very shortly, my granddaughter who came to the altar a few months ago will be getting Baptised.

last week as we were going to church she said that she wanted to be Baptised, and today, she enters into a deeper walk with the Lord.

and I spoke about her desire and a couple of days later, one of the ministers called me and wanted to know if he could help and I told him that I didn't think that I could get out in the river to help so one of the elders will help him. it matters not one iota to me about who baptizes her, I just want her to know what it means and why we Baptise
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457884 Jun 30, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>TRY HARDER, Robert f. you words like always make absolutely no sense. so dont roil yourself.
you admitted to june that you are an atheist as well as attaching yourself into other cults.
you said it NOT ME.
and of course I treat others as I treat myself, If I try and lead a Christian life, I surely expect others who profess to be a Christian not to join them selves with the devils cults.
AS YOU PROFESSED THAT YOU HAVE.
YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT I HAVE WITHSTOOD YOU FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS FORUM WHEN YOU CAME ON. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
you might be thought of as a nice guy, but to me, you are very slippery and not to be believed, however others don't have the discernment that I possess so they can be easily fooled by the devil(YOU)
Preston:

Okay! A little harder!

Your view does not allow for backsliding!

Your view does not allow God's Providence to move in a soul, or remove Himself from a soul as a means of teaching the soul!

Your view does not allow God to do what He has to because of Love, and you substitute your own view of what God's Love should or should not do!

Triple punch!!!

By the way, Jesus moved about in the crowds, and slipped away when Jews came after him. Paul escaped with the help of angels from prison.

You need physical proof, like Thomas, as an expression of faith. I don't fault you for it. I just point it out to you.

If your faith is based on physical proof, then what you have isn't faith, because faith is in the unseen, and in things hoped for...(Sorry to knock you down!)

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#457885 Jun 30, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
EDITED FOR SPACE.
==========

LETS EXAMINE DUSTSTORM'S POST AND SEE JUST HOW MUCH ACTUAL SUBSTANCE IT CONTAINS

Preach to your wife she is the one posting garbage, calling the church and abortion among other names and saying real Orthodox believe its the true church.

Maybe if you weren't such a spinless insufferable sanctimonious idiot you could see that.

PLOY #6 DEMEAN TREAT AS INFERIOR INSULT========> "spinless insufferable sanctimonious idiot"

All the Catholics want things cleaned up. Do you know there was only 1 credible allegation last year? The church has done alot, but cases from years ago will continue to be dredged.

Nobody is justifying any of it, but when your wife and you attack the church and say its way worse now then and in the past you really need to get the log out of your eyes you sanctimonious self righteous hypocrites.

PLOY #3 IS USING WORDS LIKE HYPOCRITE,LIAR NON ORTHODOX, HERETIC=========> "sanctimonious self righteous hypocrites"

I Stand by my my words that the sins of men are not the teachings of the church.

You are truly insufferable with your doublespeak and selective bs. Canon 28 ROTFL and Canon 29 Hermetics are the faith.---i WILL RETURN TO ANSWER THIS, SINCE I DID NOT TALE STORM'S ARGUMENT SERIOUS THE FIRST TIME

I have no desire to try to discuss anything rational with you as you have demonstrated you are a liar and deceiver many times

PLOY #3 IS USING WORDS LIKE HYPOCRITE,LIAR NON ORTHODOX, HERETIC=========> ""a liar and deceiver many times".

You are whiny little baby and you are no scholar of any kind and please quit pretending you have a clue about many things. I truly feel sorry for anyone that you may have counseled. Texas, NY whereever Orthodox are you have lots of problems.
PLOY #6 DEMEAN TREAT AS INFERIOR INSULT========> "You are whiny little baby"

I dont recall any Catholic attacking the Orthodox church, but you and your wife seem to have a need to do so

PLOY #4 REMAKING HISTORY.DIFFICULT, TIME CONSUMING OR IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEND.TIME CONSUMING TRY TO TRACE BACK POSTS, WHO SAID WHAT TO WHOM, WHAT REALLY WAS SAID ,WHAT REALLY WAS MEANT,WHO WAS SPEAKING TO WHOM ETC----------> "I dont recall any Catholic attacking the Orthodox church, but you and your wife seem to have a need to do so."

The Protestants could care less about your church, but you sure get excited for someone who doesnt care what people on an anonymous forum say. You can preston can cry together as he needs me to be a woman so he can feel better about all the times he was put in his place
.
PLOY #6 DEMEAN TREAT AS INFERIOR INSULT========> "so he can feel better about all the times he was put in his place".

I dont have the desire nor time to argue the nonsense of complete baffoons like you.

PLOY #6 DEMEAN TREAT AS INFERIOR INSULT========> "baffoons" like you
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#457886 Jun 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU TEACH NOTHING ....THAT JESUS ...INSTRUCTED ...PAUL... TO ...PREACH
AS ONE THAT IS DECEIVED....YOU ATTEMPT ...TO DECEIVE SOULS
I was "deceived" for over 35 years from bible only preachers like you with Protestant "relative--(half-truth) Christianity", who quote and misquote--interpret and then misinterpret bible verses to their own demise and destruction. Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church. To begin with--(1) The use of sola scriptura (editorializing) "whatever each person believes" is the basis of each of the 42,000 inconsistent and contradicting Protestant denominations (2) Each one of these Protestant denominations, have proven over and over and over again, that they "cannot exist" without condemning, judging and attacking the TRUTH of the historical and biblical PROVEN TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH. You Confrinting-and other bible only "relative truth" (so-called) preachers have proven this to be true time and time again.
WHY!!Because bible only Protestantism has no biblical or historical proof--to back up "anything that it believes---other than "personal, individual and separated "conflicting" interpretations of bible verses. Hypocrites, heretics, false preachers and pretense ministers--have "come and gone" for over 2000 years---YET--Jesus Christ, HIS TRUE GOSPEL and HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church----has, is and will CONTINUE to LIVE ON--just like Our Lord said it would in Matthew 16:18 "the gates of hell--shall not prevail against (His Church)!!!!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#457887 Jun 30, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Black Thunder 42
Lake Charles is about 45 minute's drive from me, to my southwest....Not far at all....When are you going?
Maybe in the next couple of months. I am tied up in a heavy construction project right now(moving mountain and building roads), and the weather is "killing" us. It may be too late to trip with the bike by the time we get done now...unless the weather breaks.
I would really like to make the road trip and relax a bit...and it would be interesting to meet you. I used to drive through your area quite a bit with the semi. We sometimes got our rigs stuck in the back lot of Landry's. LOL!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#457888 Jun 30, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Black Thunder 42:
It all goes along with what you give, is what you get back(and sometimes it is multiplied).
If one answers complacently, that's what they get back. Kind of a self-soothing narcotic.
Some people like to answer with an "up in your face" attitude. And they get it back in return....
If you look at interaction as an equation, then you will see that, and how your contribution affects that equation and it's conclusion.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#457889 Jun 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
THE KINGDOM OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH..
THEY TEACH THAT HEY ARE THE ONLY NATION GOING TO HEAVEN..
This is just MORE of your anti-catholic BS that you "throw out" over and over again on this forum. You, Confrinting are a deliberate lying, deceiving and heretical bible only preacher that becomes more "desperate" each day in spreading your false accusations about the Catholic Church, and the TRUE faith and Salvation of those Catholic Christians who follow, believe and trust Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (each day).......And you have the "audacity" to call yourself--"a true preacher and a follower of Jesus Christ...... God have mercy on your hateful, lying and deceiving soul!!

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