Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 599894 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Atheist Silurist

Manchester, UK

#457165 Jun 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Again, I've looked this up and the sources lay the blame at the feet of the government as they sent the inmates to the asylums.
What were the Orders accused of?
I'm looking at the report now, and it concludes that there was no sexual abuse, no beatings; they did have to work "very hard" and the nuns were strict.
The same report indicates that the laundries were "operated on a subsistence or close to break-even basis rather than on a commercial or highly profitable basis."
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/MagdalenR...
Again, the government sent them there. The report faults them for that.
What did I miss from the report?
Catholic governments in catholic countries will protect their catholic church. What you miss is the moral and ethical dimensions.

If there was no abuse why is this even an issue.
The government sent me to school against my will. Am I entitled to compensation?
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457166 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The smell of your roses is imaginary heaven for you ... and from your perspective ... the stench of the shit of hell is for others.
You are the type of person theologians count on for their mental infections of lies to take hold.
You are a breeding ground of stupidity.
I am done posting to you ... at least for now. You have taxed my patience to my limit.
June:

Take a break!

Silence is a good space to be in.

:)
Anthony MN

Hopkins, MN

#457167 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The smell of your roses is imaginary heaven for you ... and from your perspective ... the stench of the shit of hell is for others.
You are the type of person theologians count on for their mental infections of lies to take hold.
You are a breeding ground of stupidity.
I am done posting to you ... at least for now. You have taxed my patience to my limit.
Would that we all had the same effect on you...

Please do us all a favor and find some other outlet.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#457168 Jun 28, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Think of the grape juice as NEW,wine..hard to think they all spent the day drinking strong wine.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godandthemachine...
Who suggested that anyone "spent they day drinking strong wine"?

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#457169 Jun 28, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
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We are told that we are born rotten sinners,sick and commanded to be well. Not an ideal doctrine to encourage self esteem.
It is because gullible followers believe humans are born sick that they cling to the words of theologians.

Ancient religion taught that the best part of humans is their spirit that is linked to the divine gods and that the tiny infected part of spirit dwells in human physical bodies on earth.

HORRIBLE dogmas!

But the theologians (who hated each other), worked their sinister magic into the minds of devout believers, and there it RESIDES to this day as the believers right-fight continually over who the gods love and who the gods despise.

Dumb and dumber.
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457170 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Then you are here to preach your Catholicism with your belief that only Jesus saves Catholics ... as truth. And THAT is proselytizing.
So I suggest you at least be honest with us about why you are ON the forum.
June:

When you write Catholicism, I think catholic(universal).

Jesus save universally, not exclusively.
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457171 Jun 28, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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If it's any consolation, it git's this ole' dog in a lot of trouble too. As long as you are honest with yourself...
Black Thunder 42:

Lol... That doesn't surprise me a bit.

I am glad you can stand your ground.
Atheist Silurist

Manchester, UK

#457172 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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correction ... It's a place I would NOT want to go.
LOL, I thought you had just suffered a blunt trauma injury to the head or maybe your sanity had taken a turn for the worse. I'm glad it was a typo and not a religious affliction.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#457173 Jun 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Please do us all a favor and find some other outlet.
"All" a favor??? Do you mean to imply that every reader on the forum agrees that you are indeed a favorite of the one and only god???

You fool!

Every person in every religion on earth that adores the teachings of their own cult, believes THEY are favorites of gods.

That mental blight is nothing NEW in religion.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#457174 Jun 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I was chatting with two nuns the other day and asked what they thought of the music in our liturgies. One of them was a specialist in liturgical music and was rather adamant that we won't be going back to traditional music or even chant and that the mix of contemporary music was here to stay. And she was quite certain that the Tridentine Mass was just a fad. Kinda wrecked my day...
With all respect due the nuns, they don't make the call (unless they do indeed at your parish).

I'm quite sure that these same nuns would have told you 40 years ago that "guitar masses" were here to stay.

Thanks be to the Almighty and Merciful that we're not subject to that cacophony any longer.
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457175 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Then you are here to preach your Catholicism with your belief that only Jesus saves Catholics ... as truth. And THAT is proselytizing.
So I suggest you at least be honest with us about why you are ON the forum.
June:

No.

I have no pretense on being a "preacher".

Its more like being an effusive spring.
Atheist Silurist

Manchester, UK

#457176 Jun 28, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June:
When you write Catholicism, I think catholic(universal).
Jesus save universally, not exclusively.
What about people who have never even heard of jesus?
LTM

Chelmsford, Canada

#457177 Jun 28, 2013
Bible Verse of the Day

4What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

Psalms 8:4-6 (KJV)

www.Christ.com
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457178 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Yet, your bottom line IS that you DO believe your resting place of Catholicism is about knowing that you are favored by a god and others will go to hell.
THAT is the basis OF the Catholic religion.
If that belief satisfies you, then it doesn't take much TO satisfy you.
Someone just needs to tell you that you are special to "god" and you buy it, hook, line and sinker.
But that is where you want to stay ... so ... so be it.
June:

Catholic religion is an oxymoron, kind of like military intelligence.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#457179 Jun 28, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
Communion means "the act or an instance of sharing" or as above "participation". If your bread and grape juice is just bread and grape juice you're communing or "participating" with bread and grape juice. If it's Christ's body and blood (it's not in protestantism) you're communing or "participating" in Christ's body and blood. If it's just a symbol, all you're getting is a symbol, it's not the real thing.
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Protestants are 'communing' with each other in REMEMBRANCE OF HIM. His Body is being 'connected'. The bread and juice remind us of what He has done for us, and Who it is that MAKES US ONE.

We stay in touch with Him AND each other. Beautiful moments.

KayMarie
Human Being

Welsh, LA

#457180 Jun 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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According to theologians, Jesus demands that all people believe in him or burn in hell.
Your theology is of your OWN flavor. But that is nothing new with humans and religion. That is why there are approximately 38,000 denominations of Christianity, with people in each group all bragging that they know the truth.
June:

It seems to me, that some theologians demand it of Jesus, but I don't think Jesus demands anything.

Then of course, what do I know?
LTM

Chelmsford, Canada

#457181 Jun 28, 2013
Trappings of Religions

And in the morning, It will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?
Faith in Jesus Christ as Saviour transforms us from a shallow meaningless person into one filled with the Spirit of God. If we are born again and the Spirit resides within us, our religion ought to be as full of meaning as our lives are full of the Spirit. How terrible to see many religions in which there is absolute meaninglessness because of spiritual ritualism. Jesus encountered this very same thing in His day as well.
The Pharisees were always guilty of practicing an empty religion. This is why John the Baptist called them a "generation of vipers" (Matthew 3:7). The Pharisees were constantly interested in keeping the ceremonial law, but they had the wrong heart attitude toward God. When Jesus called Matthew to discipleship, the Pharisees were right there to question the Lord's disciples, "Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?" (Matthew 9:11). When He cast a demon out of a man who was dumb, the Pharisees accused Jesus of casting out devils through the power of the prince of the devils (Matthew 9:34).
Always the Pharisees were seeking a sign from Jesus that He was the Messiah. Time and again He refused to give them such a sign saying that the sign of Jonah was all they would need. His resurrection after a death of three days would be the great sign to them that He was indeed the Messiah. If they would not believe that sign, neither would they believe any other.
At Magdala Jesus again encountered the Pharisees, this time in league with the Sadducees and Herodians, who again asked Him for a sign. As before, Jesus refused to give them such a sign but at the same time He taught them something about the emptiness and blindness of their spiritual ritualism. Jesus noted that the Pharisees and Sadducees could read the weather signs in the heavens. He said, "When it is evening you say, it will be fair weather for the sky is red." This is comparable to our axiom, "Red sky at night, sailor's delight." But Jesus continued, "And in the morning it will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowring" (Matthew 16:3). Or, as we would say, "Red sky in morning, sailors take warning."
Jesus then concluded with the assessment, "O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?" These religious leaders could read the skies with the best astronomers and mariners, but could not recognize that Jesus was the Messiah. This was where their expertise should have been, but because they had been involved so long with empty formalism instead of meaningful activity in carrying God's love to the world, they did not have the eyes of faith with which to see Jesus as their Saviour.
An item from a church bulletin clearly points out the inconsistency of pious religion which does not follow through in meeting the needs of people. It is a satirical rephrasing of Matthew 25: "I was famished and you formed a humanitarian club to discuss my hunger...I was imprisoned and you crept off quietly to your church to pray for my release. I was naked and you debated the morality of my unseemly appearance. I was sick and you knew it, yet did nothing but thank God for your own health. I was homeless and you preached to me of the spiritual shelter of the love of God. I was lonely and you left me by myself while you went and prayed for me. You seemed so holy, so close to God; but I am still very hungry, desolate, and cold!"
.cont
LTM

Chelmsford, Canada

#457182 Jun 28, 2013
cont
While the Pharisees had all the trappings of religion, all the robes, all the religious paraphernalia, they had none of the heart, none of what true religion is all about. Yet today as well there are many churches and denominations that have all the trap-pings of religion but none of the heart of the Lord Jesus. It is up to each of us to make sure that we attend faithfully those churches which show the heart of the Lord Jesus and not the heart of the Pharisee. Is your church following Jesus or following the Pharisees? Is your religion practical? Make it a point to pray for your church today.
MORNING HYMN
All Thy works with joy surround Thee,
Earth and Heav'n reflect Thy rays,
Stars and angels sing around Thee,
Center of unbroken praise
Dan

Omaha, NE

#457183 Jun 28, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
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Catholic governments in catholic countries will protect their catholic church. What you miss is the moral and ethical dimensions.
If there was no abuse why is this even an issue.
The government sent me to school against my will. Am I entitled to compensation?
In this matter, it certainly appears that the government is indeed compensating those sent to a place against their will.

Again, the actual report cites that at the laundries the Orders ran, there was no sexual abuse, no beatings, the workplaces passed inspection in accord with contemporary factory standards and that the laundries did not reap profits from operations. It was cited that the work was hard and that the nuns were strict and ran the places that way.

You mentioned "abuse", not I. I'm just asking why you demand money from the Orders in compensation.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#457184 Jun 28, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
You received the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ in the Eucharist nonetheless.

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No way. Why does the CC deny the wine/blood to ANYONE?

KM

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