Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 678796 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#456728 Jun 26, 2013
marge wrote:
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the confrintings aren't catholics.
Where exactly do you think the NT came from?
Do you think the bigotry is any less? She/he has already stated the others are infidels...that is all I need to assess judgement of such an individual.
If you hold the same type of thinking, I will judge you as a bigoted hypocritical individual also.

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#456729 Jun 26, 2013
hojo wrote:
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What or how you "FEEL" means little or nothing when it comes to the TRUTH of TRUE Church History. The Catholic Church--has, is and will continue to be the Historically and Biblically PROVEN One True Apostolic Church initiated by Jesus Christ Himself over 2000 years ago!!!
The early Church was called BOTH "Orthodox" and "Catholic." St. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of the Apostles, calls the Church by both these names as early as A.D. 107. The word “Orthodox” in Greek is “orthódoxos” meaning “right in religion“, or “straight teaching”; and the word “Catholic” is “katholikós” meaning “general” and/or “kathól(ou)” meaning “universally”. >>>>>
Also, the word “katholikos” literally means “the whole in every part.” It is commonly translated “universal.”
Here is what Ignatius says:
"You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church
without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH." (he didn't say Orthodox Church)(Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans)
Ignatius’ point is that the TRUE Church (the CATHOLIC Church –the Church as it is known in all parts of the world) is found locally with the bishop, as opposed to Gnostic cults and other false sects which claimed to be the true Church. Ergo, here as early as A.D. 107, the Church was already known as “the Catholic Church.” It would have been known by that name (Catholic) while the Apostle John was still alive, since he died only about 7 years earlier than the time when Ignatius is writing. Also, as I said, the term “the Way” was only used by Jewish Christians when speaking to other Jews.
If bullshit was electricity, You would be a bolt of lightning!

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#456730 Jun 26, 2013
Disciple wrote:
Refresher.
The pope; "even the atheist has been redeemed with the blood f Christ"
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2013/05/22/po...
then Robert F can remain a catholic and still be a professed atheist.

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#456731 Jun 26, 2013
marge wrote:
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Stop it.
shut up! you dont tell me what to post and when, If you dotn like it, crawl back in the sewer that you came out of.

atheists don't give Gods People any words. you are stupid to even think so.

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#456732 Jun 26, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>then Robert F can remain a catholic and still be a professed atheist.
this is the forum where Robert and his friend June conversed and knew each other very well.

Man-made religion is ...


Man-made religion is the enemy of peace

Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/T675JJ592...

THE BIBLE WARNS US OF WOLVES THAT APPEAR AS SHEEP.

AND STUPID IGNORANT PEOPLE LIKE MARGE WHO HAS CAME ON THIS FORUM AND TRIES TO SHUT THE TRUTH UP.

well guess what marge, I don't shut up for twerps and ignorant dumb posters like YOU

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#456733 Jun 26, 2013
marge wrote:
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Stop it.
make sure you repent of this SIN that you have committed, IT WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF HEAVEN IF YOU DONT.

1 Timothy 5

King James Version (KJV)

5 Rebuke not an elder

almost 30 years in the ministry, that qualifies me to speak against the devil and his minions like Robert.

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#456734 Jun 26, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>make sure you repent of this SIN that you have committed, IT WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF HEAVEN IF YOU DONT.
1 Timothy 5
King James Version (KJV)
5 Rebuke not an elder
almost 30 years in the ministry, that qualifies me to speak against the devil and his minions like Robert.
Silly rabbit, your quoting a 15th century book written by a bunch of drunken monks, on orders of a conceited totalitarian mentally deranged king? Based on mythology repeated through out human history, derived from Astronemy of ancient civilizations, 1000s of yrs before your jc, which even historically can not be proven to ever to have existed, at all.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#456735 Jun 27, 2013
Page 1 of 2

WE BELIEVE:

God
We believe in one God, Creator of all things, holy, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in a loving unity of three equally divine Persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Having limitless knowledge and sovereign power, God has graciously purposed from eternity to redeem a people for Himself and to make all things new for His own glory.

The Bible
We believe that God has spoken in the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, through the words of human authors. As the verbally inspired Word of God, the Bible is without error in the original writings, the complete revelation of His will for salvation, and the ultimate authority by which every realm of human knowledge and endeavor should be judged. Therefore, it is to be believed in all that it teaches, obeyed in all that it requires, and trusted in all that it promises.

The Human Condition
We believe that God created Adam and Eve in His image, but they sinned when tempted by Satan. In union with Adam, human beings are sinners by nature and by choice, alienated from God, and under His wrath. Only through God's saving work in Jesus Christ can we be rescued, reconciled and renewed.

Jesus Christ
We believe that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, fully God and fully man, one Person in two natures. Jesus - Israel's promised Messiah - was conceived through the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived a sinless life, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father as our High Priest and Advocate.

The Work of Christ
We believe that Jesus Christ, as our representative and substitute, shed His blood on the cross as the perfect, all-sufficient sacrifice for our sins. His atoning death and victorious resurrection constitute the only grounds for salvation.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#456736 Jun 27, 2013
Page 2 of 2

WE BELIEVE

The Holy Spirit
We believe that the Holy Spirit, in all that He does, glorifies the Lord Jesus Christ. He convicts the world of its guilt. He regenerates sinners, and in Him they are baptized into union with Christ and adopted as heirs in the family of God. He also indwells, illuminates, guides, equips and empowers believers for Christ-like living and service.

The Church
We believe that the true church comprises all who have been justified by God's grace through faith alone in Christ alone. They are united by the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ, of which He is the Head. The true church is manifest in local churches, whose membership should be composed only of believers. The Lord Jesus mandated two ordinances, baptism and the Lord's Supper, which visibly and tangibly express the gospel. Though they are not the means of salvation, when celebrated by the church in genuine faith, these ordinances confirm and nourish the believer.

Christian Living
We believe that God's justifying grace must not be separated from His sanctifying power and purpose. God commands us to love Him supremely and others sacrificially, and to live out our faith with care for one another, compassion toward the poor and justice for the oppressed. With God's Word, the Spirit's power, and fervent prayer in Christ's name, we are to combat the spiritual forces of evil. In obedience to Christ's commission, we are to make disciples among all people, always bearing witness to the gospel in word and deed.

Christ's Return
We believe in the personal bodily and premillenial return of our Lord Jesus Christ. The coming of Christ, at a time known only to God, demands constant expectancy and, as our blessed hope, motivates the believer to godly living, sacrificial service and energetic mission.*

Response and Eternal Destiny
We believe that God commands everyone everywhere to believe the gospel by turning to Him in repentance and receiving the Lord Jesus Christ. We believe that God will raise the dead bodily and judge the world, assigning the unbeliever to condemnation and eternal conscious punishment and the believer to eternal blessedness and joy with the Lord in the new heaven and the new earth, to the praise of His glorious grace. Amen.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#456737 Jun 27, 2013
The cat is out of the bag. All of the Roman Catholics now know what OldJG believes.

Since: Oct 10

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#456738 Jun 27, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Page 1 of 2
WE BELIEVE:
God
We believe in one God, Creator of all things, holy, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in a loving unity of three equally divine Persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Having limitless knowledge and sovereign power, God has graciously purposed from eternity to redeem a people for Himself and to make all things new for His own glory.
It is your right to believe what you want, but those are still just the words of man.What does your god think of all the environmental damage we as human beings have done to this planet, according to your theory , this is all gods, the animals,oceans,land and sky, all his, all representative of him, yet we continue to shit where we eat, kill one another for resources and fortune, I mean you understand that when we send our young people to go and kill other human beings woman, children and old people, that yous are condemning them to an eternity of hell, that all life on this planet is equally precious, that when we pollute our streams lakes and oceans,strip mine the land, annihilate whole forests, that we are destroying the very thing that creates all life on this planet,and that is the alchemy of the diversity of life that has evolved and taken billion of yrs, to get to the point we are at, in the here and now.And now yous want to put all that responsibility of salvation, on something that doesn't even exist. My friend you would have a better chance of convincing me of the tooth fairy.

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#456739 Jun 27, 2013
OldJG wrote:
The cat is out of the bag. All of the Roman Catholics now know what OldJG believes.
yeah and now ALL catholics as well as marge knows that Robert F was and is a phony as I have said all along.
truth

Perth, Australia

#456740 Jun 27, 2013
justice for many not exist
nooooooooooo
you will be target because your leaders and misleaders,..
you already judged before you think

id..life and soul as well future generation..is already in hand of wrong doing people..
you speak about books or law..law which not exist in economy and finance where money is god and power..

byyyyyyyyy
truth

Perth, Australia

#456741 Jun 27, 2013
you can't go against mother
find where life
4000 years ago
ankh

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#456742 Jun 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
The Immaculate Conception is a doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Immaculate Conception refers to the sinless state of Mary. Pope Pius IX proclaimed this doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary on December 8, 1854.
Many people, Catholics included, wrongly believe that this dogma refers to the conception of Jesus Christ. But, in fact, the Immaculate Conception doctrine states that Mary, "in the first instance of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin." Immaculate, meaning "without stain," implies that Mary herself was preserved from original sin at conception, that she was born without a sin nature, and that she lived a sinless life.
Will a Catholic show me the Scripture that this teaching is based on????
~~~
If immaculate conception were possible ..

THEN JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO TO HAVE BEEN SIRED BY THE HOLY GHOST...

ANY OF MARY'S BROTHERS (OR HER ANCESTORS) COULD HAVE BEEN THE SINLESS

SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS....AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAVE HAD TO INTERMARRY

WITH IN THEIR OWN FAMILY TO PRESERVE THE PURITY RACE.

THE STUPIDITY OF SUCH TEACHING CONCERNING MARY IS GROSS IGNORANCE...

IT SETS HER FAMILY UP AS SINLESS ...ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CREATION,

IT ATTEMPTS TO IMPLY...

THAT GOD CREATED TWO FAMILIES IN THE BEGINNING..

AND ONE OF THEM (THE PROGENITORS OF MARY.)... NEVER SINNED.

ANY ONE THAT CAN READ THE BIBLE

(OF COURSE THE PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS)

KNOWS THAT DAVID (the ancestor of Mary) SINNED.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#456743 Jun 27, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You betcha...Your church was the perpetrator of all that atrocity...in fact it has cost the lives of 250 million people tp date.
What is your need to bring racism into the picture? Your church also was the promoter of slavery and racism. You have no ground for such improvision.
I am not even attempting to describe the "peace of christ". That should be your churches job...which it has failed miserably at.
You people are a lot of failed hypocrites.
Churches..as n organized religion ..are run by men and they err.

Badly.

How many were killed subTitled..who was no more religious than my tooth brush. He said Jews deserved. to die because of their faith..But it was a power and money and land grab. All over Europe. And some crazy firm of eugenics..Blonde white Aryans was the model...(did the man never look in a mirror)
He wanted to rule the world and in his c a Dr religion had nit a thing to do with it.

Genghis Khan..PolPot..Stalin..Mao.

NO RELIGION.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#456744 Jun 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
If immaculate conception were possible ..
THEN JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO TO HAVE BEEN SIRED BY THE HOLY GHOST...
ANY OF MARY'S BROTHERS (OR HER ANCESTORS) COULD HAVE BEEN THE SINLESS
SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS....AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAVE HAD TO INTERMARRY
WITH IN THEIR OWN FAMILY TO PRESERVE THE PURITY RACE.
THE STUPIDITY OF SUCH TEACHING CONCERNING MARY IS GROSS IGNORANCE...
IT SETS HER FAMILY UP AS SINLESS ...ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE CREATION,
IT ATTEMPTS TO IMPLY...
THAT GOD CREATED TWO FAMILIES IN THE BEGINNING..
AND ONE OF THEM (THE PROGENITORS OF MARY.)... NEVER SINNED.
ANY ONE THAT CAN READ THE BIBLE
(OF COURSE THE PAGAN ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS)
KNOWS THAT DAVID (the ancestor of Mary) SINNED.
~~~

If you believe that Mary was the incarnate daughter of God....then you would have to believe that her Mother was immaculately conceived...
and that would have had to go away back to Genesis...to the creation of Man..

Question

WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LIE AND MAKE UP FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS....TO BEGAN WITH?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#456745 Jun 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
The Immaculate Conception is a doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Immaculate Conception refers to the sinless state of Mary. Pope Pius IX proclaimed this doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary on December 8, 1854.
Many people, Catholics included, wrongly believe that this dogma refers to the conception of Jesus Christ. But, in fact, the Immaculate Conception doctrine states that Mary, "in the first instance of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin." Immaculate, meaning "without stain," implies that Mary herself was preserved from original sin at conception, that she was born without a sin nature, and that she lived a sinless life.
Will a Catholic show me the Scripture that this teaching is based on????
Luke 1:28.

Still.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#456746 Jun 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
040
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1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
You quoted this Scripture in support that at birth all human beings have the stain on their soul of original sin...based on "For as in Adam all die"
Following that logic, it can also be said that at birth all human beings are made alive...based on " even so in Christ shall all be made alive"....which cancels the original sin you say all human beings are guilty of at birth!!!!!
Well, following your "logic" here, you've just made being "born again" in Christ unnecessary, as you've declared us "in Christ" simply by virtue of being born.

Nice one. Is this a new theology you've come up with here?

"Oxism"?
truth

Perth, Australia

#456747 Jun 27, 2013
Where is first Eden ..Lucifer change many time..perfection is lose..you need died.
now..please tell me why you try go around.

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