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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 596312 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jan 08

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#455663 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Well for a a preacher you won't accept the apology I made for the argument. And then cal me names..lovely example to the non believers watching.
Will say it again
.wrong to argue on a mystery of God ..I know what I feel is correct and have actually checked with a few non Catholics on another forum so I know I am not losing my faculties. Obviously you think you have some better extra biblical lnowledge ..We do nit agree obviously
But you can continue to argue and insult by yourself cowboy.
My first post today was for reconciliation..accept it or nit brother.
When we are meant to actually KNOW for sure the mysteries of God ..He will tell us..
first I NEVER saw any apology and besides that, no apology is necessary since this is a forum, in which dummies as well as ignorant people participate on. and no it is NOT WRONG to disagree on the WORD of GOD.

the Bible says that we are to use the Bible for reproof and correction.

as far as some "extra bible knowledge", that is a lie. Do I know more about the Bible than you. Probably. I have spent many years atudying His Word, also learning some Hebrew along the Way, as well as learning some Jewish traditions.

you would do well, to keep your trap shut and learn some manners, as well as your typing expertise. you are even worse than I am and that is saying something.

last. you can check with all of the non catholics that you wish, that makes no difference, many people have opinions, THAT DOESNT MAKE THEM RIGHT.

I NEVER ASKED YOU TO DISCUSS ONE THING WITH ME NOR DID I ASK YOU TO ARGUE WITH ME OR AGREE WITH ME. YOU CHOSE TO DO SO.

Since: Jan 08

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#455664 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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In case you missed it
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
i DONT HIT LINKS FROM PEOPLE THAT I DISAGREE WITH.

and especially with your attitude

I learned a valuable lesson from Dom a couple of years ago

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#455665 Jun 23, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>i DONT HIT LINKS FROM PEOPLE THAT I DISAGREE WITH.
and especially with your attitude
I learned a valuable lesson from Dom a couple of years ago
Ok will repost so you know I'm not a liar and that is a Topix link.
RoSesz wrote:
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Cowboy..brother
I have posted this link at least 3 timeshttp://www.abideinchrist. com/messages/onlylegitimatemes siah.html
And this at least once
http://www.heartofisrael.net/chazak/articles/...
Both show Messiah to be the legal son of Joseph in the eyes of man's law
HOWEVER
upon Praying on this,subject..I am sorry fir our argument
Fir me it's always been simple.
SHE is His mother.
I had no idea that there was,doubt on THIS.
And it shook me .
I still believe she is...But arguing it is not a worthy occupation.
It will remain one of those mysteries that humans do not agree on I guess.
And not necessary to salvation that we know just how God accomplished the miracle. neuroscIentist that by this miracle the Son of God was born ..suffered and died fir our RANSOM..AND arose again defeating the grave.
The rest about His mother ..And her life we will find out in heaven.
God bless you and keep you and make His,light to Shine on you.
And I am sorry to anyone else who was pulled into this argument
Who is wrong and who is right is Gids business
They are enlightening
Thankfully I am already a Christian.

As if you were the person I had as an example ..Oh well
I have not ..though tempted..insulted you.And won't start now.

You choose to insult and argue in a done argument
I am humble enough to know GOD and His word are all I need ..

Nit a forum or a preacher.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#455666 Jun 23, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Yeah he is on there just keep going down the page to context on the left side and click on devotionals you will go right to all devotionals by him and others.
Found it thanks ..And book marked..

Since: Jan 08

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#455667 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Ok will repost so you know I'm not a liar and that is a Topix link.
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Thankfully I am already a Christian.
As if you were the person I had as an example ..Oh well
I have not ..though tempted..insulted you.And won't start now.
You choose to insult and argue in a done argument
I am humble enough to know GOD and His word are all I need ..
Nit a forum or a preacher.
this a backwards insult to me, but I don't care. I have self respect for myself and I know what kind of person that I am. your opinion of means nothing whatsoever to me.

when I gave up my Church that I had Pastored for many years, there were tears on both sides and my SS cried and told me that I was the best Pastor that she ever had.

afterward I left her mom was in the hospital and I went to visit her and she started cry and introduced me as he Pastor to her mate in the other bed . and when I told the other lady that I want anymore, she started cry and said that I always would be.

I attended her funeral a few weeks later, and when her immediate family went up to view her, I went up too.

those are people that I loved and they knew me and loved me.

so what you think means squat to me.

Since: Jan 08

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#455668 Jun 23, 2013
BTW, what in the world does the word "nit" mean that you use so often.lol

nit is a baby lice. you do know that right.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#455669 Jun 23, 2013
Act 16:25 And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.

Act 16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.

Act 16:27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.

Act 16:28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.

Act 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,

Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

Act 16:34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

Commentary by F.G. Meyer

Salvation in the Jail

Act_16:25-40

Some, as we have seen, are converted by the gentle opening of the heart;

others amid the convulsions of the storm.

The first knowledge of salvation may have reached the heart of the jailer through the saving of the possessed girl, Act_16:17.

If only the heart is right with Christ, it can sing in the darkest night; and

the impression of those holy songs must have wrought still further upon the conscience of this rough Roman official, who had treated his prisoners with uncommon severity, Act_16:24.

The inner prison! Perhaps some of our readers have been in it! They have come to an end of themselves and their feet are fastened!

But God has His own way of deliverance and never forsakes His own. Art thou in the stocks today? Then pray and sing praises! Choose, for instance,

Psa_103:1-22. God will be thy very present help.

Thou shalt win thy jailer, and become a monument of God’s saving mercy.

There is no course for the convicted sinner but to trust in the salvation wrought upon the Cross; or still better, in Him who wrought it.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#455670 Jun 23, 2013
Act 16:26 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.

A similar Verse is found in the events of Resurrection Morning..

Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

JESUS HAS LOOSED THE CHAINS, the bonds of sin...the door is open.

HAVE YOU CHOSEN THE FREEDOM THAT jESUS OFFERED...

OR DO YOU STILL REMAIN IN YOUR PRISON...

THE DOOR OF SALVATION IS OPEN, AND THE LIGHT IS ON...

Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#455671 Jun 23, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>this a backwards insult to me, but I don't care. I have self respect for myself and I know what kind of person that I am. your opinion of means nothing whatsoever to me.
when I gave up my Church that I had Pastored for many years, there were tears on both sides and my SS cried and told me that I was the best Pastor that she ever had.
afterward I left her mom was in the hospital and I went to visit her and she started cry and introduced me as he Pastor to her mate in the other bed . and when I told the other lady that I want anymore, she started cry and said that I always would be.
I attended her funeral a few weeks later, and when her immediate family went up to view her, I went up too.
those are people that I loved and they knew me and loved me.
so what you think means squat to me.
Glad you could touch hearts really

Very nicely I am saying that the way you insult folks who BELUEVE in our Lord is nit a good example for non believers..

I am old enough that I have encountered secular people like that.

I know my past or woukd never address any one that way..

And most of us believers are humble enough to realize that
If there is some mystery besides whatvis expressly stated in the bible .
We will know when God tells us.

For now it is not seen my nor in His will that I argue the point.

PEACE
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#455672 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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I t is simple.
The SEED of the woman is Mary's seed..
Jesus was human .He had to BE A SON OF ADAM but perfect in that He was the Son of God..the only possible HUMAN sacrifice.
He also had to be the descendant of David ..through Mary He was.
The Holy.Spirit was joined in her SEED..No sex as was involved..as someone here said ..That is blasphemous..She was a virgin .
No carnal knowledge.
He was wholly human thru her.
Wholly God through the Spirit
SHE was His MOTHER as it says in the bible she was.
A mystery of Faith surely but easy to understand if we believe in an all powerful God.
Romans 5:12, "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--

I Corinthians 15:21-22, 21 "For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

I Corinthians 15:45-47, 45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. 47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455673 Jun 23, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June:
Why ask the question, if you know the answer?
Islam(calling itself a religion of peace), actually like most other religions is firstly concerned with justice. And the execution of that justice..., such as honor killings.
Christianity is unique(when properly practiced) in that mercy comes before justice. And that is why the world seeking justice/revenge seeks to destroy Christianity.
I was not indoctrinated by Catholicism. In short, I was brought up in a rather tepid religious backround of Methodism, which went to philosophy, then to theosophy. I searched through various religions until I ended in Catholicism.
So to come back to "square one," are you claiming that after centuries of Catholics imprisoning, torturing, and murdering others, that Catholicism is a religion of peace???

You are so blinded by that word salvation ... you are in a pathetic state of inability to think outside of your self-perceived hypnotic trance.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455674 Jun 23, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Religious people can be the most stubborn, when it comes to trying to express their understanding of the Bible.
From your pulpit of wisdom, if you understand the bible in it's proper context, that means that those who disagree with you don't understand it in it's proper context ... RIGHT???

You are your own support system of arrogance.

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#455675 Jun 23, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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Romans 5:12, "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--
I Corinthians 15:21-22, 21 "For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
I Corinthians 15:45-47, 45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. 47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven."
you might as well forget it, rose knows it all before she came on here
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#455676 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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I t is simple.
The SEED of the woman is Mary's seed..
Jesus was human .He had to BE A SON OF ADAM but perfect in that He was the Son of God..the only possible HUMAN sacrifice.
He also had to be the descendant of David ..through Mary He was.
The Holy.Spirit was joined in her SEED..No sex as was involved..as someone here said ..That is blasphemous..She was a virgin .
No carnal knowledge.
He was wholly human thru her.
Wholly God through the Spirit
SHE was His MOTHER as it says in the bible she was.
A mystery of Faith surely but easy to understand if we believe in an all powerful God.
During the normal course of a pregnancy,the mothers and babies blood DOES NOT mix or circulate together. The umbilical cord attaches to the placenta. The placenta is the "container" that keeps the baby "isolated" from the mother. The fetal blood flows through the baby, out the umbilical cord to the placenta and no further.

The placental membrane SEPARATES MATERNAL BLOOD FROM FETAL BLOOD.

Jesus was made to be a perfect sacrifice for us without blemish or tainted blood, but He had to be made flesh in order to die in our place.

Jesus DID NOT have the blood of Mary. Why? Because Mary was a sinner like the rest of humanity as was Adam and in Adam all die. In Jesus all are made alive.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455677 Jun 23, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June
God has already turned the lights off, and those in the dark are wandering around in their "progressive" mazes.
So here again we observe your utter arrogance of perceiving that you are enlightened, and others are in the dark.

Pathetic ignoramus!!!

And by the way, when I came on the forum years ago, you were a died in the wool Catholic back then ... so your study of other religions (if such occurred at all) was a hit and miss deal.

I tend to believe that from your inability to see beyond your box of Catholicism that you were raised as a Catholic.

Since: Jan 08

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#455678 Jun 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So to come back to "square one," are you claiming that after centuries of Catholics imprisoning, torturing, and murdering others, that Catholicism is a religion of peace???
You are so blinded by that word salvation ... you are in a pathetic state of inability to think outside of your self-perceived hypnotic trance.
you are talking to a closet catholic. one week he is a catholic, the next who knows, but thankfully the catholics accept him back when he says that he has returned.

the bottom line is that he is no different than you, both of you are lost.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455679 Jun 23, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
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Was really getting frustrated. And it came to me God is right not us.
Arguing amongst ourselves on a mystery is unseemly.
Fyi.
I liked your explanation just now..
But nit going to argue with cowboy on it..:)
Peace
RoSesz:

Actually, it is a good, and a godly lesson, to know frustration.

What I think often happens we let frustration turn to anger, which can hurt others, and our own selves. We thus feel guilty. And then the Holy Spirit convicts us, and our conscience gets blemished.

The sooner we see the pattern, the more expertly we can deal with anger. Ask forgiveness from others, and God, and be at peace with God and neighbor. And work out a sort of spiritual sense when we move in that direction.

In dealing with people on this thread, I have learned much, especially how easily we offend and are offended by the thoughts of others. It reminds me of Jesus's that it is not the act of adultery, but the THOUGHT, which is the sin.

It makes me see that we must discipline our thoughts, and keep them from wandering off of God, to him be glory forever.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455680 Jun 23, 2013
LTM wrote:
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There is a big difference June, the Muslim Allah is not our God.
Within the conflicting theologies, if there is only one god, that god is the one that serves Jews, Catholics, Muslims and Protestants.

Just because you demand full attention doesn't mean that your demands will be met.

Throw tantrums if it pleases you ... but your will might not be the final will. Your will might simply be child's play.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#455681 Jun 23, 2013
One of our acquaintances had three sons. Whichever one of the sons cut the pie, or the cake, or the orange, et cetera, had to be satisfied with the last piece left on the plate.

The boys learned to not try to manipulate situations in order to grab more than their own share.

It's a pity that people in religion didn't learn that lesson.

From my perspective, the emotion of god-envy is not to be envied.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#455682 Jun 23, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So to come back to "square one," are you claiming that after centuries of Catholics imprisoning, torturing, and murdering others, that Catholicism is a religion of peace???
You are so blinded by that word salvation ... you are in a pathetic state of inability to think outside of your self-perceived hypnotic trance.
June:

That is why I used the qualifier..., Christianity(when it is practiced properly). In the instances of religious persecution within the RCC by the improper perceptions of people doing such, does not represent Christianity.

Back at you! Are you so blinded by your contempt for religion that you don't have the ability to see you are in a trance?

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