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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688931 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#455302 Jun 21, 2013
who="RoSesz"
Thanks Kay ..The CC planted knowledge of Christ ..I have never had any problem with the mysteries..God can do as He chooses,and however He does it...way above me and glad fir it.
I had the sacraments but until I was born again..kind if pursued actually into belief I never felt His love as I have since .
Even when I go astray I feel ..like hey turn around ..cone back on the path..He lives me that much to wash my sins over again .
Amazing Grace indeed!!!

**********

He is 'a friend that sticks closer than a brother'. Yes, it is absolutely AMAZING GRACE.

I know what you mean about 'turning around', for He continually entreats us, and watches carefully to keep us on the right path.

KayMarie

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#455303 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" I strongly suggest that you """"STUDY """" your Bible a little closer instead of just merely reading it. Was God confused when He created the races and told them to go out into the world and conquer it and then later He placed the man into the garden and told him to stay there and dress it and keep it. Was the man supposed to leave the garden at some later date and then go into the world to conquer it and sibdue it as God told them to do in one verse? No. The races that God created were to go into the world and conquer it but the MAN ADAM was to stay in the garden and dress it and keep it. There is much you do not see. The different races of earth DID NOT come from Adam but were created before Adam was "formed". Only ONE RACE came from Adam.
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Sorry, Tony. God said, "Let us make man..." And He began with Adam.
When Rebecca questioned God about her pregnancy, God told her that she was carrying TWO NATIONS in her womb. The different races were not created before Adam.
KayMarie
And the link I posted above about MANKIND, THE TWO CREATION EVENTS is a whole lot of reading but that's one thing about our congregation and that is you can't be lazy and think you're gonna be able to keep up with the way we study. You can't be lazy and think you're gonn a learn something in our congregation. It requires a whole lot of study not merely reading a couple verses and then thinking you got it. So when I post something for you guiys get your bibles and follow along with the scriptures. IN DEPTH lessons will be learned if you do. And never be afraid to admit when you have been proven wrong. Many people will see that they have been proven wring but they will not edmit it because that ego is a powerful thing. Especially those that call themselves Bible teachers. Nothing hurts oride more than to consider yourself a Bible teacher only to have it proven that something you thought was true and believed ended up being proven to you that it isn't.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

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#455304 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you are wrong. I said and showed that the Apostles received the Holy Ghost right after he was resurrected. however Mary was filled with the Holy Ghost 50 days after He was resurrected.
here is a hint, look at what I say and then read it from the bible and then you can understand that what I say is Biblically correct. I seldom make a mistake. when I say the Bible says something, it does.
You gave me verses that said they were on the room.
And 're dived the Spirit .

The you bragged that you received the Spirit sooner.

You think she was where when Jesus was resurrected?? Wasn't John to take care if her ..just because she was nit mentioned except at PENTECOST dies nit men she was in a closet some place .

Did John disobey Jesus and leave her to grieve alone.

He was the bravest of the apostles.Imo.

And would a Son leave His mother as the only person of the group to not have His blessings after Resurrection.

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#455305 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>you are wrong. I said and showed that the Apostles received the Holy Ghost right after he was resurrected. however Mary was filled with the Holy Ghost 50 days after He was resurrected.
here is a hint, look at what I say and then read it from the bible and then you can understand that what I say is Biblically correct. I seldom make a mistake. when I say the Bible says something, it does.
a prophecy given to mary.

"(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that
the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."
Luke 2:35, KJV

and on the cross, he also called her woman again, but this time, it was with love and He gave her to a disciple ,for him to take care of her. on the cross, he showed His love for her.

and on the cross, he showed His love for all of us.

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#455306 Jun 21, 2013
Hello Dan!!!!

<quoted text>
Sucks to suck, Ox.
Anthony took you to school and now you're throwing a fit.
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No fit throwing....just giving him an opportunity to deny the truth...as you have...here is an other...

Pope John Paull II has 'dedicated himself and his Pontificate to Our Lady.' He bears the letter "M" for Mary in his coat of arms. And his personal motto, which is embroidered on the side of his robes in Latin is the following: "TOTUS TUUS SUM MARIA", which in English translates to: "MARY, I'M ALL YOURS."

For those that think the "Totus Tuus Sum Maria" is a fictitious proclamation of Pope John Paul II, see this excerpt from a Los Angeles Times News Article.

"By awarding the Virgin a central place in the cathedral's narrative, the archdiocese is keeping faith with a long, if fluctuating, Catholic and Orthodox tradition of devotion to Our Lady, a tradition enjoying a resurgence under Pope John Paul II.(The pope's personal motto, "Totus tuus sum, Maria," or "I am all yours, Mary," reflects his belief that the Virgin intervened to save his life from an assassin's bullet in 1981 so that he could help defeat European communism.)" -LATIMES.com Sept 1, 2002 By REED JOHNSON, Times Staff Writer

Devotion: religious observance or worship; a form of prayer or worship for special use

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#455307 Jun 21, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="RoSesz"
Thanks Kay ..The CC planted knowledge of Christ ..I have never had any problem with the mysteries..God can do as He chooses,and however He does it...way above me and glad fir it.
I had the sacraments but until I was born again..kind if pursued actually into belief I never felt His love as I have since .
Even when I go astray I feel ..like hey turn around ..cone back on the path..He lives me that much to wash my sins over again .
Amazing Grace indeed!!!
**********
He is 'a friend that sticks closer than a brother'. Yes, it is absolutely AMAZING GRACE.
I know what you mean about 'turning around', for He continually entreats us, and watches carefully to keep us on the right path.
KayMarie
You know,I heard the parable about the Good Shepherd leaving the,99 to go after one..I never understood it as I do now.

when I think of God ..the phrase from a,poem name HOUND OF HEAVEN cones to mind:)

He goes after who and what He wAnts. Imo

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#455308 Jun 21, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
John 3:5 relates Christ teaching the necessity of and matter of (water) Baptism.
Matthew 28 18:19(below) relates Christ teaching the Form of Baptism:
18 But Jesus came near and spoke to them; All authority in heaven and on earth, he said, has been given to me; 19 you, therefore, must go out, making disciples of all nations, and baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost,
All this is IN the Catholic Encyclopedia you excerpted. Very lazy, Ox.

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Whadda bout it Dan...willing to learn...talk to me!!!!

Thanks...I found those listed....What I posted, evidently was sort of a recap of what is later gone into detail...

But...I am having a difficulty with the first paragraph under that heading...

Theologians distinguish a twofold necessity, which they call a necessity of means (medii) and a necessity of precept (præcepti). The first (medii) indicates a thing to be so necessary that, if lacking (though inculpably), salvation can not be attained.

I can see, by their thinking, where Joh 3:5, and Mt 28:18-19, supports it.

The second (præcepti) is had when a thing is indeed so necessary that it may not be omitted voluntarily without sin; yet, ignorance of the precept or inability to fulfill it, excuses one from its observance.

What Scripture teaches: ignorance of the precept or inability to fulfill it, excuses one from its observance.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#455309 Jun 21, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>No I am not. you are nothing but a liar by saying that.
a liar clay. and it seems that this lying is a trait that all of you catholics on here have possessed
If that was the case ..did God Sid in her distraction..And JOSEPH's.

GOD EXOECTED JESUS TO BE EXACTLY WHERE HE was ..doing His,Fathers,business..
And God gets what He wants ..

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#455310 Jun 21, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
You gave me verses that said they were on the room.
And 're dived the Spirit .
The you bragged that you received the Spirit sooner.
You think she was where when Jesus was resurrected?? Wasn't John to take care if her ..just because she was nit mentioned except at PENTECOST dies nit men she was in a closet some place .
Did John disobey Jesus and leave her to grieve alone.
He was the bravest of the apostles.Imo.
And would a Son leave His mother as the only person of the group to not have His blessings after Resurrection.
It certainly wasnt a brag. it was a statement of fact and I used that to show Anthony that mary could NOT have received the Holy Ghost because Jesus was not dead yet. and I said that to show that she was a person who needed Him just like me.

I never said that John was to take care of her and the Bible doesn't indicate [which] disciple was to take her home. could have been her own son, James who kept her, I don't know and it only matters that Jesus wanted her taken care of.

DONT pick a fight with me, you are way over your head if you try.

try learning from me, that will help you more than fighting with me

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#455311 Jun 21, 2013
who="RoSesz"
Possibly and I said that at first but the more I thought about it ..it was ..the confusion ..a God thing ..since fir some reason He wanted Jesus,in the Temple ..Not on the way home.
Who knows who the men were that d a y ..maybe this was their Jesus encounter.
I Posited a young Gamaliel (who had a father named Simeon..the one from the presentation??.May be..But Gamaliel..Paul s teacher 29 tears,later..was sympathetic to the Christians..
Thing is we have no idea why He was there except it was His father's,business.
What cowboy said..I know non Catholics do not want her seen as a,goddess..But a bad mother ..I don't think so
And yes it turned I to a hornets,nest.
Frankly Kay ..it upset me because it was making a point Catholics make that we read things into scripture that are nit there.
Plus I admire Mary very much .I could not have borne what she did.

**********
Jesus explained it to Mary. He asked, "Don't you know that I am to be about My Father's business?"
On the day of Pentecost when the disciples received the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the Upper Room, the Spirit led them outside on the street. There were Jews visiting (for the feast) from several nations. They witnessed the work of the Holy Spirit, and returned home. When the Apostles arrived to preach the gospel to them, they had already been prepared to receive it. God DOES put people in special places at special times.
When Jesus was in the temple, He was talking with the priests and teachers there. They were amazed at His wisdom, and that 'visit' may well have been the cause of several of them believing on Him after the resurrection. They remembered His wisdom, and it helped them understand what they were hearing from and about Him.(Scripture says that many of the priests believed in Him, but did not tell it because they feared their leaders.)

Mary is admired throughout all Christendom. Protestants do not degrade her. cowboy was trying to fight the 'goddess' thing, and it went bad.
Yes, Mary bore a lot of pain and sorrow...but she was filled with joy when she received the Holy Spirit, and knew that Jesus was resurrected. I'm sure that made her forget the sorrow.

Don't worry about the Catholics...our whole dispute with them is about things that THEY have 'read into the picture'.

Keep looking up. The enemy wants to steal your joy...but Jesus will not forsake you.

KayMarie

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#455312 Jun 21, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
My soul is at risk? What does that mean? Gossip? How can it be gossip. This is TRUTH.
If Jesus wanted us to elevate His mother and glorify her why didn't He tell us in His word, the Bible? Jesus actually corrects His mother beginning at the wedding in Cana. John 2:4, "Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come." WOW. "What have I to do with thee?"
After Jesus says this to save face Mary tells the servants, notice she does not tell Jesus, but Mary tells the servants in John 2:5, "His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it."
And I am asking ..do you think this surprised Him ..He knew this woukd be His first PUBLIC miracle..

And He did it for her

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#455313 Jun 21, 2013
proof that mary was not born filled with the holy Ghost, nor had she ever received him until the 50th day.

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

I guess the catholics think that Jesus lied about this.

there are just to many things that Catholicism teaches that is satanic in nature.

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#455314 Jun 21, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
If that was the case ..did God Sid in her distraction..And JOSEPH's.
GOD EXOECTED JESUS TO BE EXACTLY WHERE HE was ..doing His,Fathers,business..
And God gets what He wants ..
sorry, but I cant understand what you are trying to say.

can you put that in English.

I can understand a few languages but I cant understand what Sid means.

but what I can understand is this. Jesus is God, he can go where he wants, when he wants.

that was never the issue.

catholcis teach that mary is a queen, second only to Jesus.

I was showing that she makes mistakes just like us.

why is that impossible for you or anyone else to understand if they wish?

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#455315 Jun 21, 2013
sorry kay but I disagree with you saying it went bad. everything that I said, I backed up with the word of God. I cant help the problem that she has understanding English.

It was not bad on my part only the catholics could disagree with what thus saith the Lord.

you had no problem understanding the battle that was ongoing. they have eyes but they see not, they have ears but they don't understand.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#455316 Jun 21, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
One time when Jesus was speaking, a woman in the crowd proclaimed,“Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed”(Luke 11:27). There was never a better opportunity for Jesus to declare that Mary was indeed worthy of praise and adoration. What was Jesus’ response?“On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it”(Luke 11:28). To Jesus, obedience to God’s Word was more important than being the woman who gave birth to the Savior.
Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus, or anyone else, direct any praise, glory, or adoration towards Mary. Elizabeth, Mary’s relative, praised Mary in Luke 1:42-44, but her praise is based on the blessing of giving birth to the Messiah. It was not based on any inherent glory in Mary.
<quoted text>
"RoSesz" are you a mother? As a mother, would you leave your 12 year old son by himself with strangers in a strange town? If you did what might you expect from the authorities?
Luke 2:41-48, 41 "Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. 42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up according to custom. 43 And when the feast was ended, as they were returning, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. His parents did not know it, 44 but supposing him to be in the group they went a day's journey, but then they began to search for him among their relatives and acquaintances, 45 and when they did not find him, they returned to Jerusalem, searching for him.
46 After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions.
47 And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers. 48 And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, "Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress."
No JG I would. not

But I also would nit be travelling with my whole town consistingv consisting of children of all ages
.in their society a 12 year old was almost a man .

He might have travelled there with a group of friends or family and they assumed he left eith them.
Maybe TH a t was the plan.

What I keep saying is We Know fir a certainty that JESUS,was in the TEMPLE doing His,Fathers business.

How His Father arranged for that to happen ..confusion maybe??

Is above my pay grade..

I ONLY KNOW WHAT I READ doing His Fatgers business.

Do you think God woukd let His earthly parents to interfere??

Jesus actually scolded them when they tried to.

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#455317 Jun 21, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
If that was the case ..did God Sid in her distraction..And JOSEPH's.
GOD EXOECTED JESUS TO BE EXACTLY WHERE HE was ..doing His,Fathers,business..
And God gets what He wants ..
you are really naïve if you believe that God gets what he wants.

if he did, then people wouldn't be disobedient, would they?

for he said," it is not His Will that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance"

and we know that not all get saved

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#455318 Jun 21, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
hey Kay Marie, are you saying the Holy Ghost comes and goes in mankind to do His purpose, or, that once the Holy Spirit of God enters you He will never leave you, or both.


GOOD question..the Spirit came unto her.

Did He leave..dud she learn truth from Jesus BEFore his public ministry

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#455319 Jun 21, 2013
Catholics teach all born are guilty of the original sin of Adam and Eve..

This was God's reaction to same:

Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life...

Where does He say: And from this day forth, all newborn will have their soul stained with the original sin of Adam/Eve....or words to that affect...
truth

Ardross, Australia

#455320 Jun 21, 2013
it is written
liars from beginning..
truth

Ardross, Australia

#455321 Jun 21, 2013
piercing heart
i finish in hospital
22 2 2005
piercing is been 22/ 2/- 4 /5/=2005 every day

how its look on cross=ex-trimly painful..there is a no love not at all
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyy

it is written
'liar from beginning'

your law is not my law
never will be
neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrr

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