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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 654537 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453555 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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YOU GO TO THE BIBLE...THE WORD OF GOD TO FIND THE TRUTH...
You should rephrase that and state "In my version (my interpretation of the meanings of the words) of the bible, you will find truth."

That would indicate at least a bit of humility on your part.
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The Use and Misuse of Language … edited by S. I. Hayakawa.

General semanticists know it is hard to make the average person realize that he brings meaning to the word, that the word does not contain any meaning.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453556 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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QUESTION...
WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WHEN HE SAID...
Joh 8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
Joh 8:55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
Joh 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
Joh 8:58 ---> Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. <---
Joh 8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Exactly what he meant to say...

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GREAT DODGE...

JESUS EXISTED BEFORE THE WORLD WAS..

Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453557 Jun 18, 2013
Dan wrote:
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The scenario I describe involves people already HAVING gone to the Bible and drawing different conclusions.
Who resolves the differences?
That is the whole point in the nutshell!

No one resolves the differences, because each person takes his/her own meanings from words and in turn, all too many claim they know truth.

It's what keeps those in religion fighting about the meanings and being certain that they are on the one and only right track.

Religion is comparable to a train-wreck.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453558 Jun 18, 2013
who="Black Thunder 42"
So your deity enjoys producing imperfect creations and calls them "good". That is indeed a failure at any and all levels.
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Our God didn't create imperfect creations and call them good. Adam made a choice, and that choice was not good.

We still enjoy God's creation, and I see some 'good' even in some less than perfect people. The mountains and rivers are BEAUTIFUL, even though some of them harbor volcano's, or flood over at times.

I awake each morning to behold their beauty, and enjoy the sun and the beautiful sunsets. My heart thrills at the love of family and friends.

Even we have fallen to 'less-than-perfect' status, our God has done WONDERFUL things...

KayMarie

P.S. Could YOU do any better???
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#453559 Jun 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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If the answers were there, you wouldn't need to learn or make anything up. You could just look it up.
But the fact is that no one knows which teachings are infallible.
The Popes and councils have changed the definition too many times.
When an infallible teaching in one era is found to be very fallible in another, then they just change the definition of "infallible."
Is that how God one true church should be run, if the claim itself were true?
See it's funny how you say nobody can really know anything, all the while believing you know everything. And funnier that your misunderstanding of Catholic matters leads you to think that the Church is confused or that God is confused.
The technique is called "projecting". A common way to ascribe your own deficiencies to someone else.

There is no way in the world that you are going to be able to see anything with your eyes taped shut. The least you could do is leave those people alone who actually have their eyes open and can see what's around them. That goes for all fanatical atheists and anti-catholics fundies.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#453560 Jun 18, 2013
it is written
In the name of Almighty God +
In name of Invisible God +
In name of Mortal God +
it is written
blade of Jesus Christ +
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#453561 Jun 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The only idolatry going on, is you and your approach to Sacred Scripture.
You fool me not. There is no way you actually believe we worship statues.
btw, do you know what we do worship? The Eucharist. How come you never get into that? After all, its just a piece of bread, right?..We hold it up and bow before it. If it ain't really the Body, then the first 1600 yrs of Christianity are in trouble for idolatry.
So really, I'm not sure why you bother falsely accusing us of statue worship, when you could have other ammunition to feed the residents of your compound with.
Yes, you do worship statues and in your example you call it a Eucharist. Jesus nor the apostles NEVER told you or anyone else to worship a cracker.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#453562 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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The Roman Catholic proclaimed open season on Luther he became and endangered species...
The main thing the bothered him ,,,, it took some time to learn the difference in the freedom of living by faith and freedom from the Roman Catholic Churches bondage.
Just because he had receive a revelation of truth in one important subject.
"That the just should live by his faith."
Did not mean that he had become the expert expositor in all of it..
Like Abraham . of old....He was traveling in uncharted territory.
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1Co 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
Martin Luther was a psychotic egomaniac who went OCD about his own excrement, his anus, and his pet satan. He frequently, by his own admission, had late night socials with the devil. He was rabidly anti-Semitic, he believed that adultery was just fine, he believed that reason/critical thinking was to be trodden underfoot, he called Moses a murderer and worse, he believed that good deeds were sins, he believed that we had no free will...etc etc etc
And you think this is the guy to follow.
What a hero.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#453563 Jun 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I also watched that porn flick! I felt that it left a lot to be desired.
:)
you reading this? BIBLIOGRAPHY
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/03/protes ... it histerical,example" one always hears about the embarrassing and scandalous Catholic stuff -- and not often very accurately or fairly at that). unquote they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar yet they are but the accusations are not accurate,oh please, it goes on to blame the protestants,which luther left because of the underhanded backdoor deals that were going on, the man had a conscience, the church was doing wrong he knew it got out of it and started a church with a little bit more truth to it than the pagan/Christian church. they had their day in court were found guilty and now they want to cry about being treated unfairly, from my understanding the splintered groups from the catholic church, did not like these favors that were being given out in return for silver and gold, i wouldn't like it either. The main problem is that these other churches do not go along with the idea of a papal chair, and rightfully so, it's meaningless you have no unbroken chain going back to the last apostle "john", so how can the chair be associated with them?....I can't go on, have to go to doctors be back later though, I find this website amusing like the Sunday comics page....today is decision day I want the tube removed from my back,and I think they want me to keep it,so this unforeseen accident doesn't happen again, I'm willing to take the chance hopefully they will be too. big problem right now is infection because of the tube being stuck in there. ok got to go be back later with good news I hope.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453564 Jun 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You should rephrase that and state "In my version (my interpretation of the meanings of the words) of the bible, you will find truth."
That would indicate at least a bit of humility on your part.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
The Use and Misuse of Language … edited by S. I. Hayakawa.
General semanticists know it is hard to make the average person realize that he brings meaning to the word, that the word does not contain any meaning.
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THIS IS NOT A STUDY OF LANGUAGE...IT IS A STUDY OF THE ONE WHO CREATED LANGUAGES...
I HAVE OVER 60 YEARS OF BIBLE STUDY TO MY CREDIT... MY WIFE AND I TOGETHER HAVE OVER 120 YEARS...MORE THAN MOST COLLEGE PROFESSES...
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT...I DO NOT SAY WE KNOW IT ALL NOR ARE WE UNTEACHABLE
BUT WE REALLY DON'T NEED YOUR INPUT FROM KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS.
I JUST IGNORE THEM...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#453565 Jun 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Sorry ... but the Jehovah's have nothing on these preachers on the forum. They all are certain they know the one and only truth.
It's a pity they can't agree on the meaning of that one supposed truth.
Maybe it doesn't exist except in mentalities, which is (or at least it should be) questionable at any time.
Confusion ... illusion ... all the same.
The Jehovah's,knock on your door.
You come here every day.

I do not know what made you so angry at God.

People don't just woke up one day and stop believing

And yet you in your own way stay close to people who do believe.

Knowing there us no way you can change us.

Why try ..why is it so important to try to take away the hope of salvation.

I do pray that by being among us something may get past your rhetoric
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453566 Jun 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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That is the whole point in the nutshell!
No one resolves the differences, because each person takes his/her own meanings from words and in turn, all too many claim they know truth.
It's what keeps those in religion fighting about the meanings and being certain that they are on the one and only right track.
Religion is comparable to a train-wreck.
Protestantism differs from Catholicism in that it teaches that there is no ministerial authority that can teach a definitive interpretation of scripture.

This is why you see many protestants on this board proffering their interpretations as definitive by their say-so (in actual practice, they apply interpretations they heard from others that they like, but the philosophy is that all can interpret for themselves).

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453567 Jun 18, 2013
Someone said that Jesus didn't show up until the New Testament?

The following is what HE has to say about it (and there are more scriptures that show that He is eternal).

Joh 8:58 ---> Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. <---

KayMarie
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#453568 Jun 18, 2013
with his blade our sin is washed..
He not forget his tears..
Jesus watching from Cross huge and large number people where they going on wide way..
He cry on laud voice..
they will come in my name..its not me..no
many MANY WILL COME IN MY NAME..YES
BUT ITS NOT ME
tHEY WILL DO MIRACLE LIKE NEVER BEFORE..BUT ITS NOT AS THEY THINK..
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453569 Jun 18, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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Yes, you do worship statues and in your example you call it a Eucharist. Jesus nor the apostles NEVER told you or anyone else to worship a cracker.
John 6 25:59.

Not worshipping a cracker. You all commune with crackers and grape juice.

Catholics partake in Him at the Eucharist.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453570 Jun 18, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Martin Luther was a psychotic egomaniac who went OCD about his own excrement, his anus, and his pet satan. He frequently, by his own admission, had late night socials with the devil. He was rabidly anti-Semitic, he believed that adultery was just fine, he believed that reason/critical thinking was to be trodden underfoot, he called Moses a murderer and worse, he believed that good deeds were sins, he believed that we had no free will...etc etc etc
And you think this is the guy to follow.
What a hero.
Yeah. Comparable to Abraham, per GIF.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453571 Jun 18, 2013
who="confrinting with the word"
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AS AN ATHEIST YOU ARE..attempting to be the arbitrator, between
evangelicals (PROTESTANTS) and Roman Catholics .
playing the devils advocate...
Like a fox attempting to guard the hen house...

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And the fox 'guards' the hen houses for HIS OWN BENEFIT, NOT the safety of the hens.

KM
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#453572 Jun 18, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
Christianity—the Christian faith, the Gospel—is not a bunch of teachings. It is not like some kind of list of dogmas. It is a conviction about Christ through communion with Him by the illuminations of the Holy Spirit. It is a living reality. It is a reality beyond words and expressions and propositions and doctrinal and defined formulations. It is the new life. It is the truth itself in its fullness, in its completion, in its perfection, that is given in Jesus and the Holy Spirit, within the Christian church. And it is something to be experienced, to be seen, to be intuited, to be lived, to be understood.
Good post.
truth

Huntingdale, Australia

#453573 Jun 18, 2013
IF THEY ASKED YOU..PLEASE TELL US HOW MUCH YOU ARE OLD..
TELL THEM WHAT YOUR GOD SAY..
YOU NEED BE AS CHILD IN YOUR SOUL..PURE.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453574 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Someone said that Jesus didn't show up until the New Testament?
The following is what HE has to say about it (and there are more scriptures that show that He is eternal).
Joh 8:58 ---> Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. <---
KayMarie
KM-

This reply to Oxbow's post illustrates my question to Mr. GIF (and you by extension, as he just ascribed roughly 60 years of bible study to you).

Two protestants are differing on a biblical issue-both believe they are correct.

Both lean exclusively on their Bibles to inform their positions.

Who decides who is correct?

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