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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688559 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Garden City, MI

#453482 Jun 18, 2013
See, look how Confrint breaks down the Book of Exodus in verse verse verse. God didn't articulated that in 'verse verse verse.' Any normal person can read that passage and clearly see what offends God.
He is a false teacher and uses deception in order to falsely accuse us. Confrint believes his hands are washed because he thinks God can't see him deliberately being stupid.

Hey Confrint, not only does God think that graven images are ok (as long as we don't worship them ) He commanded the Jews to carve them.

Read Exodus further and stop at verse 25:19, then have a cup of coffee; pour some cold water on your face and read further.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453483 Jun 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
lol. I was being facetious. I do not believe you worship your photo. And I also do not believe God would be jealous of the image.
My favorite statue is one of the Michaelangelo pieta. It an image of Mary holding the crucified Jesus in her arms. It puzzles me why fundies claim God is jealous of this image. I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.
I believe they purposely misread the ten commandments in order to falsely accuse us. I'm glad you don't share in their gross misuse of the 2nd commandment.
~~~

YOU WROTE
I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.

Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

~~~
YOUR CARNAL MIND PERSUADES YOU TO LIVE BY THE FIVE SENSES,

having to VISUALIZE SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS GOD....

IS LIVING BY THE FIVE

SENSES

LIVING BY WHAT YOU SEE.... IS NOT WALKING BY FAITH...

Rom_14:23 for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

~~~
JESUS TOLD THOMAS...

Joh_20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Joh_20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#453484 Jun 18, 2013
dan wrote:
<quoted text>
They don't have that much cash laying around, and most of the parish/school closings are due to demographic shifts. They aren't viable or the areas they served don't have the population they once did.
Honestly Dan I always thought the CC helped support the schools and parishes.

These people ..yes they are poor..But they have language and heritage on common.
South Fla. Is full of Cuban..Haitian churches. Others...And these these were church home to many people.

It's really sad that they close and get the buildings sold out from under them.
I was not being cruel in my comments about the settlements..

I just wonder if the poorer parishes are paying the price ..

And why can't the Vatican bank help..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453485 Jun 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
My favorite statue is one of the Michaelangelo pieta. It an image of Mary holding the crucified Jesus in her arms. It puzzles me why fundies claim God is jealous of this image. I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.
A statue of a fantasy is meaningful because you invite into your thrill-factory TO be meaningful.

It's the "chain" of mental images that keep thrilling you.

You are certain that a god impregnated Mary to give birth to a being that you again are certain will save you and take you off to eternal bliss.

You have played that movie so many times in your brain, you believe it's real.

Other devout believers have different movies of fantasies that they play over and over and over each day and night.

That's religion in a nutshell. It's all entangled in the lust to believe the self is extra-special.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#453486 Jun 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
lol. I was being facetious. I do not believe you worship your photo. And I also do not believe God would be jealous of the image.
My favorite statue is one of the Michaelangelo pieta. It an image of Mary holding the crucified Jesus in her arms. It puzzles me why fundies claim God is jealous of this image. I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.
I believe they purposely misread the ten commandments in order to falsely accuse us. I'm glad you don't share in their gross misuse of the 2nd commandment.
Well thank God on the facetious part. I thought there I was Alice in a rabbit hole.

Ok well I grew up with the Statues. And last Good Friday made the. STATIONS. One thing a lot of Protestants don't have is Good Friday church..maybe because they are smaller and nit open and most people work in the afternoon.

When our church was smaller I suggested professorship time and everyone liked it..

The poets is beautiful.

I think a lot of this goes back to misunderstanding between Catholics and non Catholics.

Like they think you.worship the. Statues.

And I had some very wrong ideas about Baptists .

It's too bad too..

I celebrating despite our differences we all believe JESUS is Lord.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453487 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<SOLOMON'S TEMPLE WAS SO SACRED TO God and ISRAEL...That the sound of a hammer was not heard in the seven years that it took for it to be built...EVERY PART OF IT WAS PREPARED AND BROUGHT TO THE BUILDING SITE.
The furnishings of the temple were made after the similitude of the temple in heaven...
QUESTION...
HOW CAN ONE BOW THEMSELVES DOWN BEFORE IDOLS.... GIVE GLORY TO GOD...
WHILE BLATANTLY DISOBEYING HIM
DOING THAT WHICH AGITATES HIM AND PROVOKES HIM TO JEALOUSLY....
Human-created words are images of yet more images. Statues are images of yet more images.

You worship human-created biblical words. Others worship human-created biblical words and statues. It's all idol (idle) worship.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453488 Jun 18, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow June you don't even believe what you are saying, then why do you keep talking.
To irritate people. With god's approval, the devil tempts me and I fall for his charm.

It's all god's fault. He knew the devil was going to be a fallen angel when he created him. Damn that god anyway for first creating the devil, and then allowing the devil to tempt me.

:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453489 Jun 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
My favorite statue is one of the Michaelangelo pieta. It an image of Mary holding the crucified Jesus in her arms. It puzzles me why fundies claim God is jealous of this image. I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.

~~~~

YOU WROTE
I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.

___

THEN YOU HAVE NO FAITH...

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

~~~

GOD IS NOT A FUNDY...FUNDIES DID NOT WRITE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS..

GOD DID...

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#453490 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
The icons, statues, images and idols that are displayed in the Roman Catholic....Mausoleums are and abomination...
The whole nine yards of relics, bones (D.N.A.) of the dead..
Jesus described your places of sacrifices to idols...
Mat_23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
YOUR Eucharist is pollute with/by it's surroundings...You receive it while bowing before....WHAT GOD HAS FORBIDDEN...
God said...
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
~~~
SOLOMON'S TEMPLE WAS SO SACRED TO God and ISRAEL...That the sound of a hammer was not heard in the seven years that it took for it to be built...EVERY PART OF IT WAS PREPARED AND BROUGHT TO THE BUILDING SITE.
The furnishings of the temple were made after the similitude of the temple in heaven...
QUESTION...
HOW CAN ONE BOW THEMSELVES DOWN BEFORE IDOLS.... GIVE GLORY TO GOD...
WHILE BLATANTLY DISOBEYING HIM
DOING THAT WHICH AGITATES HIM AND PROVOKES HIM TO JEALOUSLY....
I have personally no.idea what God thinks about statues of HIM ..Or pictures or movies about His life. As long as our hearts are turned toward HIM alone.

The Ft lauderdale Christmas Pageant is shown on the religious Channels. I cry during the Passion..They have real animals for the Nativity.

The Holy Land Experience in Orlando is a wonderful substitute fir Disney..

So I am mot sure..as long as we do not worship these depictions..Is it a sin??

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#453491 Jun 18, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Human-created words are images of yet more images. Statues are images of yet more images.
You worship human-created biblical words. Others worship human-created biblical words and statues. It's all idol (idle) worship.
Mat_4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Mat_4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Mat_4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE
Dan

Omaha, NE

#453492 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Honestly Dan I always thought the CC helped support the schools and parishes.
These people ..yes they are poor..But they have language and heritage on common.
South Fla. Is full of Cuban..Haitian churches. Others...And these these were church home to many people.
It's really sad that they close and get the buildings sold out from under them.
I was not being cruel in my comments about the settlements..
I just wonder if the poorer parishes are paying the price ..
And why can't the Vatican bank help..
The Diocese runs the schools in their diocese. Parishioners pay the freight and typically, moneys are pooled to help out the poorer schools. Sometimes it isn't enough, and they can't make the operation viable. They just did a consolidation in the city where I live, and have funneled students to different schools.

The Vatican, again, doesn't have piles of cash laying around. They aren't "liquid" in that sense.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453493 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Wait a minute. Aren't you Catholic .
I personally do not find your statues or crucifixes to be idols but some others do.
Who are you to tell me you find a picture of Our Dear Lord offensive.
Shame on yoi
Now play nice with each other kids. Rumor has it that god doesn't want the Jews, Catholics, Muslims and Protestants fighting over his undivided attention.

He claims to serve the needy not the greedy ... but from the devils point of view (and I receive my information from him first hand)... the needy and the greedy are one and the same.

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453494 Jun 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't have any graven images or icons. It looks like you're participating in idolatry. I suggest you remove it.
:)
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#453495 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
The icons, statues, images and idols that are displayed in the Roman Catholic....Mausoleums are and abomination...
The whole nine yards of relics, bones (D.N.A.) of the dead..
Jesus described your places of sacrifices to idols...
Mat_23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
YOUR Eucharist is pollute with/by it's surroundings...You receive it while bowing before....WHAT GOD HAS FORBIDDEN...
God said...
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
~~~
SOLOMON'S TEMPLE WAS SO SACRED TO God and ISRAEL...That the sound of a hammer was not heard in the seven years that it took for it to be built...EVERY PART OF IT WAS PREPARED AND BROUGHT TO THE BUILDING SITE.
The furnishings of the temple were made after the similitude of the temple in heaven...
QUESTION...
HOW CAN ONE BOW THEMSELVES DOWN BEFORE IDOLS.... GIVE GLORY TO GOD...
WHILE BLATANTLY DISOBEYING HIM
DOING THAT WHICH AGITATES HIM AND PROVOKES HIM TO JEALOUSLY....
Another typical bogus "editorialized" interpretation of bible only "nonsense" from you Confrinting!!!!...... The only consistency that you have ever displayed since you came on this forum, is your "vindictive (endless) attitude" against the TRUTH of what the bible "actually says and means" that originated from the Early Church Fathers (TRUE INTERPRETATION) in 382, 393, and 397 AD. Your own self perpetrated made-up interpetation of the bible is nothing other than "false teaching"!---and that fact is that "we all know it"!!! The TRUTH of TRUE Bible Interpretation, has, is and will always be in Jesus Christ manifested in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453496 Jun 18, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
June! Why don't you just keep playing your anti-God, anti-Church, agnostic and atheist "word games" with Black Thunder 42!---"You deserve each other"!!!
If you don't want to butt in, you have to butt out, and right now you are butting in.

:)

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#453497 Jun 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
I find it powerful and useful as a visual reminder of Our Lords passion.
Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
~~~
YOUR CARNAL MIND PERSUADES YOU TO LIVE BY THE FIVE SENSES,
having to VISUALIZE SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS GOD....
IS LIVING BY THE FIVE
SENSES
LIVING BY WHAT YOU SEE.... IS NOT WALKING BY FAITH...
Rom_14:23 for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
~~~
JESUS TOLD THOMAS...
Joh_20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh_20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
We have faith by what is unseen ..very true.

But we live in a visual world. Who knows how many can be drawn to Our Lord by a movie about His life.

If that plants a seed that the Spirit uses??

If someone reads a work of fiction even that makes them want to know more??
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453498 Jun 18, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>
Salvation is a gift, but you still have to ACCEPT the gift,
If I don't accept the "gift" of salvation I will go to hell for eternity.

If you can't see how silly that is, then you are in a hopeless state of hypnosis.

Too much overdosing on religion will do that to you.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#453499 Jun 18, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
The Diocese runs the schools in their diocese. Parishioners pay the freight and typically, moneys are pooled to help out the poorer schools. Sometimes it isn't enough, and they can't make the operation viable. They just did a consolidation in the city where I live, and have funneled students to different schools.
The Vatican, again, doesn't have piles of cash laying around. They aren't "liquid" in that sense.
That is really a shame. Imo And very sad. The schools charge tuition I knew that..all Christian schools have to.

Don't get me started on vouchers. I am all for them even if they gave less to the vouchers than they give to the schools for each child..the state would make out by not having overcrowding as mire people woukd be able to afford private schools. Lower middle incomes at least as vouchers cannot pay the whole freight.

We pay school taxes and then tuitions if we want our kids yo get a good education..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453500 Jun 18, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing but the blood of Jesus!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wej1jHtiH-MXX
You people feign to care about the death of one Jew ... ONLY because you believe he will save your butts from hell in a hereafter.

Jews were slaughtered for centuries by Catholics, and yet that ONE supposed suffering Jew is your IDOL.

Fools!!!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

From the book “Devious Derivations”… Popular Misconceptions and More than 1000 true origins of Common Word and Phrases … by Hugh Rawson.

god.

It should be of passing interest to women readers especially to know that god originally was of neuter gender, as in the Middle High German abgott, idol.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#453501 Jun 18, 2013
RoSesz wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why listen or for that matter read what we say..
Do you maybe wait for one of us to say something that might resonate.
Make you think on believing again
I wish I had your answer you would accept..only opening your heart to God in the most simple way can achieve that and grant you some peace.
GOD bless you
This is a forum ... not a church. I escaped religion and am now free of it.

I am here to give others words that will also free them from religion if they so choose to leave.

If they don't, that is their choice, but at least I know I tried my best to help them out the mental bondage and confusion from which I suffered for so many years and now realize that what I was fed was based on nothing but the fantasies of theologians.

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