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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675619 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#452947 Jun 16, 2013
Selene100 wrote:
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No, it is not pagan. It is biblical. Christ DID give His Apostles the authority to forgive or retain sins (John 20:23). God forgives the sins using people as His instruments. In the same way, God uses people to continue the ministry of Christ. The ministry of Christ did not stop at the death of the Apostles.
You are deflecting. Typical behavior.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#452948 Jun 16, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Only with Oxbore and oldjg. I've followed those two clowns down too many rabbit holes. It's mind numbing. You're free to give it a whack.
No. I have to agree with you on this...I understand(believe it or not)...

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#452949 Jun 16, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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It just comes natural to me.
We can't all post nice sentiments to others as do you.
:)
Hmmm...well, June, we may finally have found something we agree on :)

Peace.

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#452950 Jun 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Point is, if the church did not excommunicate those selling it, they "condoned" it...it "profited" the church...who would naturally seek a scapegoat when exposed.
Martin Luther was correct in pointing out those priests who illegally sold indulgences. However, he had a choice. He could have remained Catholic and correct those abuses happening in his own country instead of creating another church of his own. He chose to create another church of his own. Anyone who goes against the teachings of the Catholic Church has already put themselves outside the Roman Catholic Church.

However, thanks to Martin Luther, he was the one who put the abuses to light so that the Catholic Church can reform herself. The members of the Roman Catholic Church are not perfect. In fact, no one is perfect...not even those of the Protestant churches. Today, the selling of indulgences is still illegal. That has not changed.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#452951 Jun 16, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Go argue with your other atheist or agnostic comrades! There is nothing to argue, nothing to debate, and nothing to discuss! I/we as Catholics will continue to remain with the biblical and historical TRUTH and our personal faith-hope and salvation in Jesus Christ, manifested in and through His One True, Catholic Church just exactly like the millions upon millions of other Catholic Christians who have gone before us, marked with the sign of faith from over 2000 years.... You can believe or (not believe) what you want!!
Typical response from one who has nothing to rebut.
I should have expected it.
You have nothing...except fantasy and worthless rhetoric when it comes to honestly answering direct questions.
I can't blame you for not answering when you have nothing...but at least you could be honest and say so...you diatribes only prove your ineptness.

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#452952 Jun 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You are deflecting. Typical behavior.
How so? It is true that Christ gave His Apostles the authority to forgive and retain sins. It is also biblical to find indulgences in the Bible....at least the Catholic Bible because it consist of 7 more books than the Protestant Bible. The Protestant Bible, which was written in the 16 century took out those 7 books along with parts of Daniel and Esther.

The Catholics have been in existance since the first century and have been practicing indulgences along with the Apostles since the first century. In fact, we got the indulgences from the Jewish people. The Roman Catholic still retains much of her Jewish roots and heritage. This is evidence showing that we are truly the true Church that Christ built more than 2000 years ago. We are an apostolic Church because our Church was founded by Jesus Christ through the Apostle Peter. Protestant churches, on the other hand, were founded by men of the 16th century and so on.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#452953 Jun 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" Christ was not tempted three times. He was actually tempted six times by Satan.
And do you really consider yourself a teacher of Gods word? Really?
Do I really have to walk you through the scriptures and show you that there was actually 6 times Christ was tempted?
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You certainly should, if you are going to use that to prove a point.
KM
My point has already been proven. Did you not spiritually receive what God wanted you to get from the lesson?
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#452954 Jun 16, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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You said, quote, "The Catholic Bible has both the Old Testament and the New Testament; therefore, Abraham and Moses is part of our Catholic history." End quote.
Abraham and Moses are part of your Roman Catholic history? Really? Neither of these men ever heard the words "Roman Catholic".
You said, quote, "We only give respect and honor to Mary because Jesus gave respect and honor to His mother.....and Jesus is the person we imitate and follow." End quote.
In what verse of the Bible does Jesus call Mary "mother"?
Selene100 wrote:
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Neither Moses nor Abraham ever heard of the word "Christian" as well.
Are you saying that Mary is NOT Jesus' mother? Are you saying that Christ broke the commandment that says "honor thy mother and thy father?"
Your quote, "Abraham and Moses is part of our Roman Catholic history." End quote.

My response, "Abraham and Moses are part of your Roman Catholic history?"

Your response, "Neither Moses nor Abraham ever heard of the word "Christian" as well." End.

Brilliant. Totally brilliant! HA HA!!!!

So, answer the question. Were Abraham and Moses Roman Catholic's?

You said, quote, "We only give respect and honor to Mary because Jesus gave respect and honor to His mother.....and Jesus is the person we imitate and follow." End quote.


My response, "In what verse of the Bible does Jesus call Mary "mother"?" End

Your response, "Are you saying that Mary is NOT Jesus' mother? Are you saying that Christ broke the commandment that says "honor thy mother and thy father?"

Is your brain fully functional? Apparently not!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#452955 Jun 16, 2013
Selene100 wrote:
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Martin Luther was correct in pointing out those priests who illegally sold indulgences. However, he had a choice. He could have remained Catholic and correct those abuses happening in his own country instead of creating another church of his own. He chose to create another church of his own. Anyone who goes against the teachings of the Catholic Church has already put themselves outside the Roman Catholic Church.
However, thanks to Martin Luther, he was the one who put the abuses to light so that the Catholic Church can reform herself. The members of the Roman Catholic Church are not perfect. In fact, no one is perfect...not even those of the Protestant churches. Today, the selling of indulgences is still illegal. That has not changed.
LOL!
I never considered any of it "legal" in the first place. I could care less about the semantics of the church...until someone pushes it in another's face. Then it becomes an issue to defame another.
That then becomes intolerable.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#452956 Jun 16, 2013
Selene100 wrote:
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How so? It is true that Christ gave His Apostles the authority to forgive and retain sins. It is also biblical to find indulgences in the Bible....at least the Catholic Bible because it consist of 7 more books than the Protestant Bible. The Protestant Bible, which was written in the 16 century took out those 7 books along with parts of Daniel and Esther.
The Catholics have been in existance since the first century and have been practicing indulgences along with the Apostles since the first century. In fact, we got the indulgences from the Jewish people. The Roman Catholic still retains much of her Jewish roots and heritage. This is evidence showing that we are truly the true Church that Christ built more than 2000 years ago. We are an apostolic Church because our Church was founded by Jesus Christ through the Apostle Peter. Protestant churches, on the other hand, were founded by men of the 16th century and so on.
Exactly what does this have to do with the original post?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

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#452957 Jun 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" I expected as much from you. What else does one expect from someone that is such a juvenile deliquent when it comes to RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE W0RD OF TRUTH,that they still think that God drove Adam and Eve from the garden because they ate the wrong produce.
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And why do YOU say that they were driven from the garden?
KM
The scriptures tells us why they were driven from the garden. Have you not read what is written in the scriptures? It was not because they ate the wrong produce as the fairy tale that most olf Christianity has been believing.

We are told that in the last days that knowledge would increase and this knowledge of wha really happened in the garden was just revealed to certain of Gods servants withion the last 50 years or so and the sin in Eden was not the eating of some forbidden fruit. What occured in Eden was much more sinister than that.

Don't sweat it though because God does not intend that everyone really know what really happened but certain ones that He has elected to know the truth is Heopening up these revbelations to.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#452958 Jun 16, 2013
Selene100 wrote:
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How did the Catholics do that? Can you give an example. You used the word "Rabboni". Are you saying that the word Rabboni was changed into something else?
If you read the article I posted, it states in it that the meanings of the words were changed.

I'm indicating that "within the theology itself" when Jesus reappeared Mary honored him with the title of Rabboni, which meant none other than he was a Jewish Rabbi before and after he died ... which would mean he was not a traitor to Judaism and did not promote that any new religion was necessary.

However, I don't believe any of those myths ... Christian or otherwise. I believe it was all superstitious hocus-pocus.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#452959 Jun 16, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
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What evidence do you have that Catholic authors changed anything in the Old Testament?
They didn't change the old testament. They supposedly took words from the old testament, changed the meanings and added the new meanings to their new testament.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#452960 Jun 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Typical response from one who has nothing to rebut.
I should have expected it.
You have nothing...except fantasy and worthless rhetoric when it comes to honestly answering direct questions.
I can't blame you for not answering when you have nothing...but at least you could be honest and say so...you diatribes only prove your ineptness.
I've dealt with hardcore atheist and agnostics like you, before, and discussion and debate are a "total waste of time"! You want answers??? Begin with humility and trustful surrender to the "Divine Providence"!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

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#452961 Jun 16, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" And why do you believers assume that Christ was tempted only three times by Satan? You assume this because you do not accurately comprehend Gods word so in your misunderstanding, you end up adding to Gods word as OXBOW does over and over.
Another thing that many of you assume and that is that when scripture mentions the wise men, you automatically assume that there were only three.
However we are not told how many there. Also you misread and assume that the wise men found Christ the night He was born but again you assume for we are shown from scripture that by the time the wise men found Christ,He was approximately two years old.
You also also assume that when Christ was crucified, there were only two othere crucified but a very carefuly examination of scripture, when RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth we are show that there were two thieves as well as two malefactors crucified with Christ.
People we must rightly divide the word of truth and when you listen to unlearned men such as Oxbow,this is when you end up with the blind leading the blind.
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Your questions do not prove anything, and certainly are no reason for criticizing someone else.
Your site on the three temptations (six?) did not show six, but repeated the same incidents by two different authors.
People naturally assume that there were THREE wisemen because there were THREE gifts. You cannot prove that there were, or were not three.
As to whether there were two or more thieves crucified with Jesus, WHAT ARE MALEFACTORS?(And you can't prove or disprove that one either.)
The time that the wise men reached Jesus is a bit more clear, and most people know that by now. Herod had all the male children under two years old killed, because that was about the time that the wise men came to him. However, we are not told whether Jesus had been born when the wise men reached Herod. It does say that they visited Jesus IN A HOUSE, not a stable. Our minds are influenced by the Nativity scenes that have been so popular.
Watch out. Pride...even about knowing things that are true...is a sin. If you know the truth, TEACH THE TRUTH; don't boast about knowing more than others.
KayMarie
Even Christ cannot prove anything to those whose eyes has not been opened to receive the deeper truths of His word so if their eyes are closed to certain things then I can talk till I'm blue in the face but till God opens their eyes no one can prove it to them.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#452962 Jun 16, 2013
Roberta G wrote:
By the way, June, have you answered my question yet?
Why are you such a bitter, vindictive harpy?
Yes I did.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#452963 Jun 16, 2013
Selene100 wrote:
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Can you give an example of those changes? And have you studied Judaism?
Of course I can't. It was the Jews who claimed that the meanings had been changed. And my guess is, they would know.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#452964 Jun 16, 2013
Selene100 wrote:
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How so? It is true that Christ gave His Apostles the authority to forgive and retain sins. It is also biblical to find indulgences in the Bible....at least the Catholic Bible because it consist of 7 more books than the Protestant Bible. The Protestant Bible, which was written in the 16 century took out those 7 books along with parts of Daniel and Esther.
The Catholics have been in existance since the first century and have been practicing indulgences along with the Apostles since the first century. In fact, we got the indulgences from the Jewish people. The Roman Catholic still retains much of her Jewish roots and heritage. This is evidence showing that we are truly the true Church that Christ built more than 2000 years ago. We are an apostolic Church because our Church was founded by Jesus Christ through the Apostle Peter. Protestant churches, on the other hand, were founded by men of the 16th century and so on.
Your Roman Catholic church began with Constantine. Have you ever heard of Constantine? He was the Roman Emperor who took TRUE Christianity, mixed it with Mithraism and all of the other pagan religions in the empire. What was the end result of this mixing.......... The Roman Catholic church.

You said, "The Protestant Bible, which was written in the 16 century took out those 7 books along with parts of Daniel and Esther." End quote.

Bologna!!!! The Roman Catholic church added the Apocryphal books to the Bible by the Council of Trent 1546 A.D The TRUE Bible never contained the Apocrypha.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#452965 Jun 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You said you would show me Scripture that proved your word..you did not because you can't...it ain't there stupid...
Son, it was there but I fear that it was beyond your comprehension level spiritually speaking.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#452966 Jun 16, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>JuneI am Not on a HIGH HORSE to Heaven.I will be lucky if I get there on a pony. You have so much anger in you for those who do believe in God.If you choose not to believe,its up to you.Well,I choose to believe.Honestly,I have never seen someone whos so full of meaness as yourself and I feel sorry for you.I say this because I care.
Well still, you WILL get there on your pony to heaven ... won't you ... and you believe that if I don't join your cult to believe as do you. I'll be sure to go to hell?

You feign humility while being arrogant in the attitude that a god simply can't resist your charm.

:)

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