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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665486 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#452338 Jun 15, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>When you call yourself a teacher of Gods word and it is obvious that you are not qualified to be trying to teach,I have to break you down to your lowest common denominator. However since I know that if you read the Bible from beginning to end you would never see that there were 6 temptations of Christ by Satan so I guess I'll reveal the appendix that goes in-depth and shows that there were 6 temptations.
http://www.therain.org/appendixes/app116.html
I seriously doubt though that you have the Spiritual fortitude to be able to handle the deeper things that many of you merely gloss over that are revealed in the scriptures. And by the way..........YOU'RE WELCOME.
You promised to show my statement wrong....that Christ was not tempted by satan three time..but was tempted six times..

I would normally say you have egg all over your face...but...it ain't egg!!! You know what it is...

I warned you about those fumes!!!!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#452339 Jun 15, 2013
And the following Appendix should be read given the fact that most of you cannot handle the meat of Gods word that lessons such as the 116th Appendix will give but you still require milk so I post the folling Appendid to help you along a little further.

http://www.biblestudysite.com/96.htm

Most of the 198 Appendices that Dr. Bullinger teaches with the KJV COMPANION Bible the majority of you cannot handle because they may be a bit too advanced for most bible students given what most of you have been brainwashed with in your churches that you call the word of God. It's indeed sad.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#452340 Jun 15, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
You promised to show my statement wrong....that Christ was not tempted by satan three time..but was tempted six times..
I would normally say you have egg all over your face...but...it ain't egg!!! You know what it is...
I warned you about those fumes!!!!
In other words the 116th Appendix that demonstrates that Christ was tempted not 3 times but 6 TIMES was way too advanced for you to comprehend. I knew I should not be here trying to feed yo the meat of Gods word when you still require milk.

Aren't you embarrassed to be so Biblically illiterate and call yourself a teacher of Gods word? Satan must be laughing hilariously at you.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#452341 Jun 15, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text> You ride a short yellow bus and wear a helmet?
All you did was try to get someone else to defend your claims, hide behind links, no skills and no balls, Alice!
I expected as much from you. What else does one expect from someone that is such a juvenile deliquent when it comes to RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE W0RD OF TRUTH,that they still think that God drove Adam and Eve from the garden because they ate the wrong produce.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#452342 Jun 15, 2013
And why do you believers assume that Christ was tempted only three times by Satan? You assume this because you do not accurately comprehend Gods word so in your misunderstanding, you end up adding to Gods word as OXBOW does over and over.

Another thing that many of you assume and that is that when scripture mentions the wise men, you automatically assume that there were only three.
However we are not told how many there. Also you misread and assume that the wise men found Christ the night He was born but again you assume for we are shown from scripture that by the time the wise men found Christ,He was approximately two years old.

You also also assume that when Christ was crucified, there were only two othere crucified but a very carefuly examination of scripture, when RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth we are show that there were two thieves as well as two malefactors crucified with Christ.

People we must rightly divide the word of truth and when you listen to unlearned men such as Oxbow,this is when you end up with the blind leading the blind.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452344 Jun 15, 2013
who="Clay "
If you read the writings of the early Church, it reveals a Church....as in an authoritative teaching magisterium with a hierarchy of Bishop, Priest and Deacon.
Here, I'll show you what the Disciple of John described, when he wrote as a validly ordained Bishop of the Church:
"Do all thing in harmony with God, with the Bishop presiding in the place of God and the Priest presiding in the place of the council of the Apostles, and the Deacons who are so dear to me, entrusted with the business of Jesus Christ"
"Wherever the Bishop appears, there let the People be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful to Baptize or give communion without the consent of the Bishop; likewise, whatever has his approval will pleasing to God; thus will be safe and valid"
Kay, why on Earth would you think the Apostles started a 'community of believers' that navigated Christianity through their miscellaneous writings that became part of the Bible 350 yrs later?
Don't run from this question like your husband. Answer with sincerity.

*"""" """"" """
So I should humble myself before you to prove my husband wrong?
What sort of man are you?

That said, we are not under the law. Jesus told the disciples to 'make converts' and baptize them. It is a CHRISTIAN work, not a work of law. NOT LAWFUL to baptize or give communion???

It is fast becoming against the 'law' to pray in the name of Jesus or God in this America. Whose 'law' will you obey?

We honor just laws from the state. We are not under oppressive 'laws' in the church. "Do everything decently and in order" does not mean to set up laws in the church that prevent "making converts" and "baptizing them".

Men have many disciples at all stages of growth. A disciple of John IS NOT JOHN, and John didn't talk that way.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452345 Jun 15, 2013
who="Clay "
But what about the time BEFORE Constantine..
How come the teachings are remarkably the same in 33 AD, 133 AD, 233 AD, and 333 AD?
You can't answer that, so you ignore it, and conjure up a conspiracy scenario that has no basis .. It lacks logic.
Yes Old Jay Gee, I did not want to be Catholic 15 yrs ago. I wanted what you guys preach.
And there is that little thing you guys mock- called the Eucharist- that I've happened to partake in..
Thank be to God, it was a brilliant move by Jesus Christ to give his Church something to ensure His Ministry would stand the test of tyrants and heretics such as yourself.
What an awesome barrier against the false Christianity that Our Lord surely foresaw happening.
The Eucharist is the pinnacle of Christianity. Request it from a valid Catholic or Orthodox Priest when you are on your death bed. Our Lord promised to raise you up on the last day if you do.
John 6: 64

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John 6:64? "But there are some of you that do not believe. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that did not believe, and who would betray Him."

It does not mention a Eucharist, nor is their any promise in it.

Verse 63 "It is the SPIRIT that quickens (makes alive), the (works of the) flesh profit nothing; the WORDS that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT, and they are life."

Believe the WORD, friend; not some ritual your flesh does. His WORD will make you alive.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452346 Jun 15, 2013
who="hojo"
Confrinting's audacity to actually deny recorded historical and scriptural verses from the New Testament and especially from Paul's writings, with regard to the CHURCH, is just planin inconceivable and incomprehensible......... His defiant and willfully beligerent "rejection" of what is clearly written with regard to the TRUTH of the authoritative, visible and heirarchical CHURCH, initiated and formed by Jesus Christ, with the Bishop, as an overseer (Acts 20:17,28, is just plain rebelliousness and defiance of the TRUTH .... In Paul's writings, the word bishop is used in conjunction with priests, deacons, and elders. The necessity in the organization of and within the Churches was to provide for an "order" charged with superintendent and pastorial service. The Bishop is exhorted to exercise oversight (I Peter 5:2. His qualifications are expressely stated (1 Tim 3:1-7 and Titus 1:7-9....Phil 1:1 references Christs Church at Philippi with the Bishop as overseer. This is "exactly why" in I Tim 3:15 Paul tells us that "THE CHURCH" is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH". Paul doesn't say The bible is the foundation and pillar of the truth---He says THE CHURCH!!! I don't read anywhere in the Sacred Scripture where Jesus or the Apostles handed out bibles, or read out of the bible to the Christians in the Churches of Antioch, Phillippi, Corinth, Thessalonica, Colossus, Ephesus, or anywhere else as!!!!!

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The Catholic scorn for the Bible is scary.
KM

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452347 Jun 15, 2013
who="Tony17" Christ was not tempted three times. He was actually tempted six times by Satan.
And do you really consider yourself a teacher of Gods word? Really?
Do I really have to walk you through the scriptures and show you that there was actually 6 times Christ was tempted?

**********

You certainly should, if you are going to use that to prove a point.

KM

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452348 Jun 15, 2013
who="Tony17" When you call yourself a teacher of Gods word and it is obvious that you are not qualified to be trying to teach,I have to break you down to your lowest common denominator. However since I know that if you read the Bible from beginning to end you would never see that there were 6 temptations of Christ by Satan so I guess I'll reveal the appendix that goes in-depth and shows that there were 6 temptations.
http://www.therain.org/appendixes/app116.html
I seriously doubt though that you have the Spiritual fortitude to be able to handle the deeper things that many of you merely gloss over that are revealed in the scriptures. And by the way..........YOU'RE WELCOME.

**********
Your site shows two presentations of the same three temptations.
KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452349 Jun 15, 2013
who="Tony17" I expected as much from you. What else does one expect from someone that is such a juvenile deliquent when it comes to RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE W0RD OF TRUTH,that they still think that God drove Adam and Eve from the garden because they ate the wrong produce.
**********
And why do YOU say that they were driven from the garden?
KM

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#452350 Jun 15, 2013
who="Tony17" And why do you believers assume that Christ was tempted only three times by Satan? You assume this because you do not accurately comprehend Gods word so in your misunderstanding, you end up adding to Gods word as OXBOW does over and over.
Another thing that many of you assume and that is that when scripture mentions the wise men, you automatically assume that there were only three.
However we are not told how many there. Also you misread and assume that the wise men found Christ the night He was born but again you assume for we are shown from scripture that by the time the wise men found Christ,He was approximately two years old.
You also also assume that when Christ was crucified, there were only two othere crucified but a very carefuly examination of scripture, when RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth we are show that there were two thieves as well as two malefactors crucified with Christ.
People we must rightly divide the word of truth and when you listen to unlearned men such as Oxbow,this is when you end up with the blind leading the blind.
**********

Your questions do not prove anything, and certainly are no reason for criticizing someone else.
Your site on the three temptations (six?) did not show six, but repeated the same incidents by two different authors.
People naturally assume that there were THREE wisemen because there were THREE gifts. You cannot prove that there were, or were not three.
As to whether there were two or more thieves crucified with Jesus, WHAT ARE MALEFACTORS?(And you can't prove or disprove that one either.)
The time that the wise men reached Jesus is a bit more clear, and most people know that by now. Herod had all the male children under two years old killed, because that was about the time that the wise men came to him. However, we are not told whether Jesus had been born when the wise men reached Herod. It does say that they visited Jesus IN A HOUSE, not a stable. Our minds are influenced by the Nativity scenes that have been so popular.

Watch out. Pride...even about knowing things that are true...is a sin. If you know the truth, TEACH THE TRUTH; don't boast about knowing more than others.

KayMarie
St Francis

Palm Harbor, FL

#452351 Jun 15, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Tony17" And why do you believers assume that Christ was tempted only three times by Satan? You assume this because you do not accurately comprehend Gods word so in your misunderstanding, you end up adding to Gods word as OXBOW does over and over.
Another thing that many of you assume and that is that when scripture mentions the wise men, you automatically assume that there were only three.
However we are not told how many there. Also you misread and assume that the wise men found Christ the night He was born but again you assume for we are shown from scripture that by the time the wise men found Christ,He was approximately two years old.
You also also assume that when Christ was crucified, there were only two othere crucified but a very carefuly examination of scripture, when RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth we are show that there were two thieves as well as two malefactors crucified with Christ.
People we must rightly divide the word of truth and when you listen to unlearned men such as Oxbow,this is when you end up with the blind leading the blind.
**********
Your questions do not prove anything, and certainly are no reason for criticizing someone else.
Your site on the three temptations (six?) did not show six, but repeated the same incidents by two different authors.
People naturally assume that there were THREE wisemen because there were THREE gifts. You cannot prove that there were, or were not three.
As to whether there were two or more thieves crucified with Jesus, WHAT ARE MALEFACTORS?(And you can't prove or disprove that one either.)
The time that the wise men reached Jesus is a bit more clear, and most people know that by now. Herod had all the male children under two years old killed, because that was about the time that the wise men came to him. However, we are not told whether Jesus had been born when the wise men reached Herod. It does say that they visited Jesus IN A HOUSE, not a stable. Our minds are influenced by the Nativity scenes that have been so popular.
Watch out. Pride...even about knowing things that are true...is a sin. If you know the truth, TEACH THE TRUTH; don't boast about knowing more than others.
KayMarie
Oh.
Michael

Canada

#452352 Jun 15, 2013
St Francis wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh.
St Francis says........incidents by two different authors.
People naturally assume that there were THREE wisemen because there were THREE gifts. You cannot prove that there were, or were not three.

Michael says.......Outside the bible ONLY! there is no recorded history of any wisemen, gifts, virgin birth, King Herod slaughtering infant males etc. etc. etc.

........something is wrong ST. Francis, when no one else from the entire mediteranean during this era recorded any such events and their were many Jewish and Roman writers of the day who recorded daily events. They are totally silent.

......something is wrong when the story claims a baby born into a Jewish family had 33 years to convince his fellow Jews that he was son of God, but instead becomes a rebel and a traitor to his own life long belief.

Not good work of a god/man

.......something is wrong.
St Francis

Palm Harbor, FL

#452353 Jun 15, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
St Francis says........incidents by two different authors.
People naturally assume that there were THREE wisemen because there were THREE gifts. You cannot prove that there were, or were not three.
Michael says.......Outside the bible ONLY! there is no recorded history of any wisemen, gifts, virgin birth, King Herod slaughtering infant males etc. etc. etc.
........something is wrong ST. Francis, when no one else from the entire mediteranean during this era recorded any such events and their were many Jewish and Roman writers of the day who recorded daily events. They are totally silent.
......something is wrong when the story claims a baby born into a Jewish family had 33 years to convince his fellow Jews that he was son of God, but instead becomes a rebel and a traitor to his own life long belief.
Not good work of a god/man
.......something is wrong.
Oh.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#452355 Jun 15, 2013
Sherlayne wrote:
<quoted text>
June - LOL - nothing like an UNBIASED opinion - "VATICAN" proclaims Catholic Church ONLY true church!
Nothing can compare with tooting one's own horn. I wrote the following this morning to suit the mood.

:)

God loves me, can't you see
I'm the best that there can be
With a cross and a wafer I deserve a throne
I know I'm loved by God alone

The Devil has no place to go
In my realm I say it's so
So off to heaven it is for me
I've become a saint you see

Some might say that I am vain
That I've become a nagging pain
But I have faith it's plain to see
I brown-nose God so he'll love me

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#452356 Jun 15, 2013
Brown-noser ... "I'm so in love with you Jesus, I hope you know."

Jesus ... "Why do you keep slobbering?"

B.N.... "Sorry, but I'm so in love with you."

Jesus ... "WHY?"

B.N.... "HUH???"

Jesus ... "You heard me, I asked you why you keep trying to convince me that you are in love with me."

B.N.... "Well, I'm supposed to love you, as you are the only way to my salvation."

Jesus ... "Do you think for even a moment you fooled me?"

B.N.... "UH ... ER ... DUH ... COUGH ... WHEEZ ... CHOKE.......... What do you want me to say???"

Jesus ... "If I existed I would tell you that with human-created words men lied to you and you were suckered in because of your ravenous lust to believe you were special."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#452357 Jun 15, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
St Francis says........incidents by two different authors.
People naturally assume that there were THREE wisemen because there were THREE gifts. You cannot prove that there were, or were not three.
Michael says.......Outside the bible ONLY! there is no recorded history of any wisemen, gifts, virgin birth, King Herod slaughtering infant males etc. etc. etc.
........something is wrong ST. Francis, when no one else from the entire mediteranean during this era recorded any such events and their were many Jewish and Roman writers of the day who recorded daily events. They are totally silent.
......something is wrong when the story claims a baby born into a Jewish family had 33 years to convince his fellow Jews that he was son of God, but instead becomes a rebel and a traitor to his own life long belief.
Not good work of a god/man
.......something is wrong.
It's that promise of salvation that keep them plugged in to self-ingratiating stupidity.

They've over-dosed on so many of their favorite scriptures, they just keep regurgitating and chewing the same old cud.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#452358 Jun 15, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Protestants may differ on various doctrinal issues, however, the only thing that really matters is what unites ALL Protestants. And that is ..........
1. John 3:16, ""For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
2. Romans 10:9-10, 9 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved."
3. Ephesians 2:8-9, 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
<quoted text>
I do my best to ignore your stupidity but it is time you were informed of your ignorance.
42,000? You change your number as much as you change your theology. You are a pathetic heartless wimpy so-called Christian. You went to the Roman church because you are incapable of thinking on your own. You must be told what and how to think.
United? In perhaps one doctrine but it is the only doctrine that has eternal value and actually matters. Try reading and listening. God gave you two ears to listen and one mouth, although in your case huge, to speak. Protestant agree on the following, whether there are 42,000 or 420,000. AGREEMENT on what really matters.
1. John 3:16, ""For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
2. Romans 10:9-10, 9 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved."
3. Ephesians 2:8-9, 8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
Amen

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#452359 Jun 15, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>I expected as much from you. What else does one expect from someone that is such a juvenile deliquent when it comes to RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE W0RD OF TRUTH,that they still think that God drove Adam and Eve from the garden because they ate the wrong produce.
That Adam and Eve myth started long before Christianity, as did so many of the other myths such as Noah and his boat (with no motor) paddling around the world.

Really very silly stuff for cunning theologians to feed to gullible people.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

From the book “Weather Lore,” Reader’s Digest, Published 2007, comes the following…

Floods

After Noah, the best-known hero of the flood sagas is the Babylonian hero Gilgamesh, whose account is enshrined in the Epic of Gilgamesh. In ancient Sumer, the man chosen for survival was Ziusudra (meaning “he saw life”). The god Enki warned him of the gods’ decision to destroy mankind in a flood. His tale is found in the Eridu Genesis that dates back to the seventeenth century B.C.: Ziusudra is instructed to build a large boat. The flood persists for seven days, at the end of which, after making sacrifices to the gods, Ziusudra is rewarded with the gift of eternal life.

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