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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 646716 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#445380 May 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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But we had the choice to Know it. So did Lucifer. We have the choice to give into it every dsy.
God didnt want us as puppets. He wanted ud snd wants us yo Choose Him
Who or what created an imperfect heaven or angel. Remember, you are wanting to go to this "perfect" place...that is really "imperfect", and was the beginning ground of the imperfections that has caused the suffering of mankind-- totally "innocent of the prime crime" act to begin with.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#445381 May 26, 2013
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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Of "Lucifer was "perfect", he would have never become evil. I had to have been inherent in his entity.
Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#445382 May 26, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
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NUMEROUS POPES DECLARE MARY SAVES SOULS
Leo XIII, Jucunda Semper, 1894: "When Mary offered herself completely to God together with her Son in the temple, she was already sharing with him the painful atonement on behalf of the human race ...(at the foot of cross) she willingly offered him up to the divine justice, dying with him in her heart, pierced by the sword of sorrow."
Pius X, Ad Diem Illum, 1904: "Owing to the union of suffering and purpose existing between Christ and Mary, she merited to become most worthily the reparatrix of the lost world, and for this reason, the dispenser of ALL favors which Jesus acquired for us by his death ...
Benedict XV, Inter Sodalicia, 1918: "To such extent did Mary suffer and almost die with her suffering and dying Son; to such extent did she surrender her maternal rights over her Son for : man's salvation .. that we may rightly say she redeemed the human race together with Christ."
Plus XI, 1935, in a prayer to close a jubilee, we find the first use of the word Co-redemptrix by a pope: "O Mother of love and mercy who, when thy sweetest Son was consummating the Redemption of the human race on in the altar of the cross, didst stand next to him suffering with him as a Coredemptrix."
Plus XII, in a radio broadcast in 1946: "Mary, for having been associated with the King of Martyrs in the ineffable work of human Redemption as Mother and co-operatrix, she remains forever associated with him, with an almost unlimited power, in the distribution of graces which flow from the Redemption."
John XXIII, Vatican II's Lumen Gentium, 1965.
Paul VI, Christi Matri. "The Church ... been accustomed to have recourse to that most ready intercessor, her Mother Mary ... For as St. Irenaeus says, she 'has become the cause of salvation for the whole human race"
John Paul II, Mother of the Redeemer, 1987.
Pius IX, Ubi Primum, 1849: "For God has committed to Mary the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that THROUGH HER are obtained every hope, every grace, and ALL SALVATION. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary."
Leo XIII, Supremi Apostolatus, 1883: "O Mary, the guardian of our peace and the dispensatrix of heavenly graces."
Plus X, Ad Diem Illum, 1904: "It was granted to the august Virgin to be together with her Only-begotten Son the most powerful Mediatrix and Conciliatrix of the whole world. So Christ is the source ... Mary, however, as St. Bernard justly remarks, is the channel, or she is the neck by which the Body is united to the Head... through which ALL spiritual gifts are communicated to his Body."
Benedict XV, In a decree on Joan of Are: "In every miracle we must recognize the mediation of Mary, through whom, according to God's will, every grace and blessing comes to us."
Plus XI, Miserentissimus Redemptor, 1928: "Confiding in her intercession with Jesus, "the one Mediator of God and man, who wished to associate his own Mother with himself as the advocate of sinners, as the dispenser and mediatrix of grace."
Plus XII, Superiore Anno, 1940: "As St. Bernard declares,'it is the will of God that we obtain favors through Mary, let everyone hasten to have recourse to Mary."
John XXIII, see Vatican II, Lumen Gentium.
Paul VI, see Lumen Gentium.
John Paul II, Dives in Misericordia, 1980, quoting Lumen Gentium, "In fact, by being assumed into heaven she has not laid aside the office of salvation but by the manifold intercession she continues to obtain for us the grace of eternal salvation."
I can understand intercessor. But CoRedemptrix mskes me think I was not wrong in saying we worshipped her in the fifties.
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#445383 May 26, 2013
I think Jesus may use her to draw people to Him.

The apparitions coukd well be a miracle from God. But if so she was bringing MESSAGES from her Son and Her Redeemer. IMO
Preston

Athens, OH

#445384 May 26, 2013
rosesz wrote:
I think Jesus may use her to draw people to Him.
The apparitions coukd well be a miracle from God. But if so she was bringing MESSAGES from her Son and Her Redeemer. IMO
read the bible and judge for yourself.

2 thess 2 :11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Pad

Fishers, IN

#445385 May 26, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Excuse me, I forgot my manners. How have you been feeling, Dan? Hopefully, much better than the last time we 'spoke'. Yes, we've had the up and down temps, too (west to east). Had the heat on yesterday, today in the low 70s, and 90s by the end of the week! I can't take it anymore!
This weather is challenging to say the least.I along with many were saddened about the tornado that hit Moore,Oklahoma.It seems that everything is so much more intense these days.

I feel fine other than the fact that a hernia is visible near my incision,and it is beginning to aggravate me.Will be calling my surgeon's office tuesday to set up an appointment.Hopefully a laparoscopic surgery will be the answer instead of a full open one,that will cut through my incision the 4th time.I dread it.The laparoscopy is so much better,the surgeon makes several small incisions,one to use to inflate a gas into the region to view the hernia and the surrounding area.Microscopic technique used to view the intensive region,and the Doctor can repair the hernia without a long process.The mesh is installed through the several small incisions underneath the repaired hernia.

Thank you for asking!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#445386 May 26, 2013
493
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>read the bible and judge for yourself.
2 thess 2 :11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
What was the cause???

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.....

No one on this earth denies the truth more than a Catholic!!!!! This has been proven over and over on this forum!!!!!
marge

Leesburg, GA

#445387 May 26, 2013
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>read the bible and judge for yourself.
2 thess 2 :11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Again and again His Word proved true, Amen.

The Lord rebuke them.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#445388 May 26, 2013
There is NO fine line with loving man and worshipping man,...

Who is your Idol?
marge

Leesburg, GA

#445389 May 26, 2013
we have the same Creator people, look to Him alone.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#445390 May 26, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>This weather is challenging to say the least.I along with many were saddened about the tornado that hit Moore,Oklahoma.It seems that everything is so much more intense these days.
I feel fine other than the fact that a hernia is visible near my incision,and it is beginning to aggravate me.Will be calling my surgeon's office tuesday to set up an appointment.Hopefully a laparoscopic surgery will be the answer instead of a full open one,that will cut through my incision the 4th time.I dread it.The laparoscopy is so much better,the surgeon makes several small incisions,one to use to inflate a gas into the region to view the hernia and the surrounding area.Microscopic technique used to view the intensive region,and the Doctor can repair the hernia without a long process.The mesh is installed through the several small incisions underneath the repaired hernia.
Thank you for asking!
hey dear big brother, id crawl in in a hole before letting them cut into me, it is evil to me like car accidents, i can't handle the thought, id flee that more than anything and pray constantly that evil will flle from us. Trust Him alone not to make you suffer, HE suffered for you already!

Since: Apr 13

San Francisco, CA

#445391 May 26, 2013
Do not get me wrong, I have and support the many GOD given miracles occurring within the RCC however I would be a fool to believe these humans who once backed burning homosexual at the stake, killed witches and thought mentally ill people were possessed by demons and also read from mistranslated Bibles is a perfect reflection of GOD. I assign the good stuff to GOD, not a church!
rosesz

Pompano Beach, FL

#445392 May 27, 2013
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>read the bible and judge for yourself.
2 thess 2 :11
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
I didnt say I saw her.
Im saying God is able to do as He wishes. Im not going to worship at a shrine.
But God has sent Angels. Why not Mary. And at a time when the eorld would face communism in its future or a World War??

Just sayin.
Gtown71

United States

#445393 May 27, 2013
a Hermaphrodote wrote:
Do not get me wrong, I have and support the many GOD given miracles occurring within the RCC however I would be a fool to believe these humans who once backed burning homosexual at the stake, killed witches and thought mentally ill people were possessed by demons and also read from mistranslated Bibles is a perfect reflection of GOD. I assign the good stuff to GOD, not a church!
Not to mention burning those who said Christ was enough alone.

There are many true christians within the catholic faith, but the catholic faith was not started by Christ. Imo

My friend is a missionary in equador, and many worship the statue mary there.
Mary had to be saved like all others. She was a sinner. Sin is transfered through the man.

True catholics worship a god cookie, and man made rituals.
True christians worship Christ alone :)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#445394 May 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So the evil that Jehovah created is perfect?
:)
~~~

You Gloat about....
what you call God's evil..

Yet you act as if you have no fear of Him..and continue you vendetta against Him daily...

If you believe that violence is a part of His attributes...

~~~
WHY DO YOU DARE HIM...

___

You claim to be an atheist.... you claim you don't believe there is a God...

yet you spend hours daily attempting to discredit someone/something... that you want us to believe ...does not exist..

Your attempt to play both sides of the arguments ...

and your post only reveal the confusion of your thoughts....

If you do sort these things you are ultimately headed for an

insane institution...

You show the progressive symptoms of double mindedness...

Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

you are as unstable as a bowl of Jello

The Lord will rebuke you and bring your voice to silence

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#445395 May 27, 2013
MY FORMER POST CORRECTED...***

You Gloat about....
what you call God's evil..

Yet you act as if you have no fear of Him..and continue you vendetta against Him daily...

If you believe that violence is a part of His attributes...

~~~
WHY DO YOU DARE HIM...

___

You claim to be an atheist.... you claim you don't believe there is a God...

yet you spend hours daily attempting to discredit someone/something... that you want us to believe ...does not exist..

Your attempt to play both sides of the arguments ...

and your post only reveal the confusion of your thoughts....

If you do...*** NOT ... sort these things... OUT ...you are ultimately headed for an

insane institution...

You show the progressive symptoms of double mindedness...

Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

you are as unstable as a bowl of Jello

The Lord will rebuke you and bring your voice to silence
Clay

Garden City, MI

#445396 May 27, 2013
rosesz wrote:
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I didnt say I saw her.
Im saying God is able to do as He wishes. Im not going to worship at a shrine.
But God has sent Angels. Why not Mary. And at a time when the eorld would face communism in its future or a World War??
Just sayin.
Exactly Rose... Why NOT Mary. If God sends Angels throughout history, why not the Blessed Mother? Anyone of us would have spared our Mother from death and sin if we could. We obviously can't, but Jesus could!
I'm not on board with every single Marian apparition, and neither is the Catholic Church. They dismiss most cases.
I have read extensively on these 4: Guadalupe, Mexico; Lourdes, France; Fatima, Portugul and Medjugorji, Yugoslavia. The CC doesn't get into every single 'secret' or prophecy told to the seers, because there just private revelations and its got to be taken as just that.
The only argument people have - to put down Mary's role - is they point to the Bible. And we know of course, that the Apostles didn't document everything about Christianity in the Bible. Christ never instructed them to compile a Bible. So its irresponsible to put down Mary by pointing to the misc letters and memoirs that make up the NT canon, don't you think?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#445397 May 27, 2013
marge wrote:
There is NO fine line with loving man and worshipping man,...
Who is your Idol?
I believe your idol is the Bible.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#445398 May 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
490
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Thanks for confirming my words...."Catholics will deny this truth."
The truth is, the Church doesn't teach that. If you're a Christian, why are you trying to tell people we do?
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#445399 May 27, 2013
dr Shrink wrote:
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show them
where is this written,
and never try to take Gods Word to fit your agenda,
because just know you commit lieand hipocrizy
you post something different, and you quote something not fiting Bible clear Gods Words
read
proverbs 30;12
THERE IS GENERATION THAT ARE PURE IN THEIR OWN EYES,AND YET IS NOT WASHED FROM THEIR OWN FILTHNESS
passage excelently fits you and your RCC
Isaiah 55:
3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

6 Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

.

John 3:14-18

King James Version (KJV)

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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