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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 699376 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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LTM

Marathon, Canada

#442529 May 19, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Really? Are you sure about that LTM.... I think you're just spewing more propaganda garbage. I get that your particular sect needs to bear false witness, otherwise you can't have a religion. You know it too.
Yes I am sure of it.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442530 May 19, 2013
Right and wrong are perceived through what people are taught as children. What is moral to one culture, is immoral, or even amoral to those in another culture.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

From the book “Cultural Anthropology” by Selby/Garretson … published 1981, comes the following.

The Australian aborigines provide another example of a culture that should not be judged in ethnocentric terms. The aborigines, who were systematically killed by European settlers, have a fascinating society that is rich in lore, myth, and legend and famous for its kinship systems and for the way it created a harmonious kinfolk. Daisy Bates, who spent a lifetime among the aborigines, reports the following:

“Baby cannibalism was rife among these central-western peoples, as it is west of the border in Central Australia. In one group, east of Murchison and Gascoyn Rivers, every woman who had a baby had killed and eaten it., dividing it with her sisters, who in turn killed their children at birth and returned the gift of food, so that the group had not preserved a single living child for some years. When the frightful hunger for baby meat overcame the mother before or at the birth of the baby, it was killed and cooked regardless of sex. Division was made according to the ancestral food laws. I cannot remember a case where the mother ate a child she had allowed, at the beginning, to live.”(1939: 107)

Mothers eating babies? Planning raids to get human meat and sharing it according to law? Giving genitals to the older, more prestigious men? How utterly repugnant—to us! Because it violates our rules for constructing and interpreting the world. If Bates is accurate, it does not violate the Australian tribal people’s rules. We have to try to understand these practices from an Australian tribal people’s point of view; that is what the doctrine of cultural relativism commands.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#442531 May 19, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>he's not there,that is What is stopping God from beaming us up right now into His holy habitation.
sambrotherofneph i:So, where is He?....JETHRO:I don't remember what this was about,and i don't have time to look it up,going to a very large flea-market today to fill my house with other peoples junk.
Don't you love it, I went to a flea market once bought two Chinese prints for 25 cent each.
Thing is they were not prints, and the frames where the originals printed with real gold .
I still have them, they are from 1942 year before I was born.
My husbands family are into all that stuff had their own antique store for awhile.
I bought a box for $10.00, just with rings, earrings etc. custom jewelry, one of the rings was beautiful it turned out to be a pear shape real diamond ring.
I didn't realize it for about a year later, because I just put the stuff in a box. Took it out for a yard sale, it is worth about a $1000.00 I wish I could have found the person I know she must miss her ring.
I asked all over the place for her.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442532 May 19, 2013
So because those that ate their babies believed it was moral, do you supposed a god would judge them as evil ... just because YOU believe they are evil?

Concerning your own personalized beliefs ... you and your religious nonsense credit your SELVES with far too much importance.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#442533 May 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I am sure of it.
You have a very limited understanding of sacred scripture. That's why you can't see the Catholic faith. Its ridiculous to think Christ taught verse verse and verse- broken down into one lines of instructions for you and Marge. Serious LTM, ridiculous. How can you possibly point to the Holy Catholic Church being in error, because you see something in a verse that tells you they 'got it wrong'? You don't have a clue what you're talking about on theology. All you got is silly cult propaganda you snag off the internet.
I don't appreciate you lying about my faith..
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442534 May 19, 2013
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>
Why wait? We are not waiting. One of the missions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is to spread the gospel to all the inhabitants of the earth. With 82,000 full time missionaries helping to share the gospel, we are working on it. God is a just God, and He will make it all work out in the end.
People still have free will when they are dead.
There are more verses that indicate Christ would go the dead and free them from death and hell through the gospel.
John 5:25-29 (the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and they that hear shall live...meaning shall live spiritually and have eternal life, being accepted into heaven)
Isa 24:22 (prophecy that Christ would go visit the spirits in prison and teach them)
Isa 42:7 refers to salvation for those who are dead and waiting in prison. The gospel will "open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house."
Sambrotherofnephi -- thank you for a direct reply to my question. I didn't know. The dead still have free will.

No, I don't agree. But I asked and you kindly showed me about 4 - 5 references to something I had never heard of before.

I understand Father God and Son God BOTH appeared to Mr. Smith. Consider how that must make other Christians feel. Jealousy maybe?

Most of their denominations haven't had such appearances since the days of Thomas and Paul, and then it's always either/or but never both.

Hope Nephi is doing well :o)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442535 May 19, 2013
All this "false witness" blather gets a bit tiring.

If you believe that what your theologians taught you is truth, and someone has a different slant on religious truth ... you automatically perceive they are bearing "false witness."

How silly!

Maybe the theologians taught you to be false witnesses ... PERIOD ... and you are stuck in the bondage of their personalized theology ... fighting with each other ... which is exactly how their theologies were designed.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442536 May 19, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a very limited understanding of sacred scripture.
:)
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#442537 May 19, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
So because those that ate their babies believed it was moral.
I would think you'de use pepper with a nice garnish on the side.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442538 May 19, 2013
Theologians taught that GOD is a harsh judge that gave free will, yet demands that his commandments are followed to a T, and who in the end will send offenders of his commandments to burn in hell.

Yet in the same breath, they will preach that Jesus was sent to earth BY his father to teach us how to love.

It seems that the father and the son are not on the "same page."

:)
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442539 May 19, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
They didn't keep it hidden. In fact, they revealed the scriptures very publicly. The fundies say Jesus Christ' Church became corrupted and once the Bible was printed, the regular folk could read it for themselves to determine their own faith.
(45,000 sects and counting)
OK, regular folk read the Bible for themselves to determine their own faith.

Is that bad? How do you determine your own faith?

In the end, most folk select the faith in which they were raised as children. You?
truth

Perth, Australia

#442541 May 19, 2013
oni lopov=lopata o ..lupez je dovozio stvari i ostavlja pred kuci..a kad sam ga potrala vi ste mene kaznili stali ste na stranu vaseg poslanog lupeza casni sude e sad njegova lopata pojavila se oko moje kuce..i kad ce zakopavanje a koga zar mene treba zajkopat sa lupezovom lopatom,,e gdje je sad sakrio lupez ispod puta u busak pravo 41 number down..see damo smo se malo prosetali nista nista lopovska policijo ..pronasli smo liopatu vaseg lopova zbog koga ste mene kaznili tako da vase lopovsko drustvo sad na lopovski nacin cita..koga cete zakopat ziva..ma nemoj..znas onaj fiction lopov iziso iz vasih knjiga da da samo vi citajte,,byyyymajestic 41 u sumi u granju

casni lopovski sude vas je lopov opet donio lopatuobaj put da me zakopa
e sad se molimo svetom anti
za izgubljenu lopovsku lopatu
ja i tako
molitva pomaze gore od 26 n pa dole sveukupno 141 korak do 41 broj
onda shape 25 i eto tu je vasa lopata..ma nemoj
pozdravite vaseg ubojitog lopova nemoze biti lopov biti kriminalac nema tog casnog suda koji izdaje svoje lopove ..no

is that delusion=noooooo
trazizimo cija je lopoata a vlasnik je lopov dakle sveti ubica
truth

Perth, Australia

#442542 May 19, 2013
left sside
left=tfel t f el e dick
tel disk
jao e disk
tel..be very careful
evil people
para evil program
evil is alway evil

now
casni sude zelimo vratiti vasem lopovu lopatusaulpaul
funeral company no working any more
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442543 May 19, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Are you sure about that LTM.... I think you're just spewing more propaganda garbage. I get that your particular sect needs to bear false witness, otherwise you can't have a religion. You know it too.
Why do you get so angry? Maybe most people don't understand because they believe what they see and hear.

-- Mary statues and pictures are the most prevalent in every Catholic Parish I've been into.

-- The rosary is mostly "Hail Mary"

-- She is called "Mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven"

-- In the most famous Church miracles in recent centuries, Mary is center stage.

-- Church miracles claim if we don't love Mary enough (not god or Jesus), bad things will happen.

-- Pope Francis actually ended his first speech as Pope, saying he needed to go and pray to Mary.

Call other posters names all you want, but those are the facts.

More...

The CC claims Mary went bodily to Heaven (just like god Jesus).

The CC claims Mary was without original sin (just like god Jesus).

Get a grip son. If this isn't "worship," what is?

At least practice what you preach, understand why non-Catholics might be confused, and reply with love and understanding.

June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442544 May 19, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<I understand Father God and Son God BOTH appeared to Mr. Smith. Consider how that must make other Christians feel. Jealousy maybe?
Most of their denominations haven't had such appearances since the days of Thomas and Paul, and then it's always either/or but never both.
Hope Nephi is doing well :o)
It didn't take much back a few centuries ago to convince the extremely gullible people that a god gave those such as Joseph Smith "visions" to re-write the nonsense in the bible to the supposed god's upgraded standards.

The fact that they were re-writing what was supposedly a god's holy word didn't seem to enter their minds that they were committing an EVIL on "holy scripture" that the god had previously designed.

The ex-Jew Catholics committed the same religious law-breaker when they indicated that the god of the Jews Elohim hadn't told the whole story that the Jews were his "chosen few," so the Catholics had to re-write Elohim's words into a new testament ... suggesting the new testament about Catholics being the chosen few was in DEED the "finished" product.

Those theologians were always into the act of the mischievous shape shifting of words.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442545 May 19, 2013
The father of Wicca Gerald Gardner was another shape-shifter of words, who claimed that the goddess cursed homosexuals, and that the witches killed in the Middle Ages were Pagans, when history indicated that it was Christians that killed each other as heretics and witches.

Then Alex Sanders, another self-proclaimed theologian (bi-sexual) took the Wiccan religion off into another direction and taught that the goddess in deed loves homosexuals, bisexuals, etc. That twist in theology took Wicca into the limelight to in turn become the rage of the new age.

Theologians were and are put up on pedestals as owning "knowledge" ... but from my perspective ... they simply taught and continue to teach people how to fight over blathering nonsense.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#442546 May 19, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a very limited understanding of sacred scripture. That's why you can't see the Catholic faith. Its ridiculous to think Christ taught verse verse and verse- broken down into one lines of instructions for you and Marge. Serious LTM, ridiculous. How can you possibly point to the Holy Catholic Church being in error, because you see something in a verse that tells you they 'got it wrong'? You don't have a clue what you're talking about on theology. All you got is silly cult propaganda you snag off the internet.
I don't appreciate you lying about my faith..
Your faith in God is not what I am questioning, faith the size of a Mustard seed will remove mountains Clay.
Its the religious doctrine of the catholic church, its a false teaching its not the gospel that Jesus preached.
I am limited I don't lay claim to be a Bible Scholar Clay.
But your catholic church is all about laying up treasure for it self on earth not in heaven.
The leaders or forefathers of this brutal religious cult were greedy corrupt men.
They were not looking after the welfare of it's people soul's but their pocket books.
Serve God and Him alone Clay, The man that sits on a throne in Roman and claims to be the Vicar of Christ has his reward already.
The throne of Jesus is the seat of King David in Jerusalem
[The City of Our Great King] not in Roman.
The man in Roman is the rich man, who stored up his riches in store houses, the more treasures he required the bigger his store houses.
Then the Lord says fool today your soul is required from you. such as it is with the catholic church and will not throw a crumb to feed the poor man. The catholic masses in poor countries are starving to death and still you Pope refuses to feed them.
Mother Teresa feed the hungry in Calcutta living in slums eating garbage and the catholic church could have feed everyone of them 10 times over and still feed the rest of the world 10 times over ,
and still they held on to their treasures in the catholic Vatican and allowed people to starve to death.
The devils season is almost over Clay his reign is coming to and end fast.
He and all who follow after him will end up in a lake of fire.
You have been feed a lie and you believe it, and God will let you if you insist Clay.
With all its glitter and gold and fancy robes,Clay the catholic church dressed in filthy rags,stinks of a vile evil rotten smell that is stained with the blood of million of people down through history there has never been a regime on earth more cruel or brutal then the catholic demonic church.
Even Hitler took lessons from the Vatican's evil Popes.
Right out of the history books.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442547 May 19, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you get so angry? Maybe most people don't understand because they believe what they see and hear.
-- Mary statues and pictures are the most prevalent in every Catholic Parish I've been into.
-- The rosary is mostly "Hail Mary"
-- She is called "Mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven"
-- In the most famous Church miracles in recent centuries, Mary is center stage.
-- Church miracles claim if we don't love Mary enough (not god or Jesus), bad things will happen.
-- Pope Francis actually ended his first speech as Pope, saying he needed to go and pray to Mary.
Call other posters names all you want, but those are the facts.
More...
The CC claims Mary went bodily to Heaven (just like god Jesus).
The CC claims Mary was without original sin (just like god Jesus).
Get a grip son. If this isn't "worship," what is?
At least practice what you preach, understand why non-Catholics might be confused, and reply with love and understanding.
To indicate that Mary was born a Jew, raised a Jew and then converted to Catholicism, is a misnomer.

Theology of the monotheistic Jews taught that there is only one god and he is the god that serves ONLY the Jews.

That god would not be at all pleased if Mary did not come back to Olam Ha Ba, but rather wandered off to some foreigners religious domain with the title of "heaven."

It was not nice of the Catholics and Protestants to try to steal Jews away from the one and only Jewish god.

tongue-in-cheek
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#442548 May 19, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you get so angry? Maybe most people don't understand because they believe what they see and hear.
-- Mary statues and pictures are the most prevalent in every Catholic Parish I've been into.
-- The rosary is mostly "Hail Mary"
-- She is called "Mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven"
-- In the most famous Church miracles in recent centuries, Mary is center stage.
-- Church miracles claim if we don't love Mary enough (not god or Jesus), bad things will happen.
-- Pope Francis actually ended his first speech as Pope, saying he needed to go and pray to Mary.
Call other posters names all you want, but those are the facts.
More...
The CC claims Mary went bodily to Heaven (just like god Jesus).
The CC claims Mary was without original sin (just like god Jesus).
Get a grip son. If this isn't "worship," what is?
At least practice what you preach, understand why non-Catholics might be confused, and reply with love and understanding.
I won't argue that it appears Mary is somehow idolized within the Catholic faith. But that is not what's going on. My frustration is not that people like LTM, think it at first.... Its when we already explain it to them and they ignore it, because they need to hold onto the lie to continue being anti Catholic.
It seems they erroneously think their hands are washed before God because they can open up their handy Bible and show that Mary isnt mentioned in blatant detail. Well,'bible alone' is an invention. Christ never taught it.

and yeah, something has been going on for the last 100 yrs in supernatural fashion. Mary is bringing people to her Son. She is an amazing.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442549 May 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Your faith in God is not what I am questioning, faith the size of a Mustard seed will remove mountains Clay.
A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Tibetan Religions

The mountains are assimilated to the ladder or the mu rope of the first ancestor who descended to earth. The royal tombs are called “mountains.

Just as the sacred mountain—the “god of the land”—is identified with the mu ladder that connects Heaven to Earth, so in the human body one of the protector gods, and precisely the one called “god of the land,” is found on the top of the head, where the mu rope is attached (the “warrior god” and the “man god” reside on the shoulders). The mu ladder is called the “ladder of the wind.”

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