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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665486 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442256 May 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Miracles are God revealing Himself in a supernatural way.
No, I am not talking about an image of Jesus Christ in a cookie.
The Catholic Church exhausts all scientific reasoning BEFORE they officially declare something worthy of belief.
The main 'rule' I guess, is for you to believe in Him...
Sorry Clay, but the CC RESISTS all scientific "reasoning," as you put it.

The CCF has refused modern testing on relics, communion tissue, all except one test on the Shroud.

The test on the shroud came back as most suspected, a 13th century fake, but then your CC tells us "oops, the test sample was an old repair."

Now the CC refuses further testing and you claim they want to "exhaust all scientific reasoning BEFORE they officially declare something worthy of belief."

Sir, that is the definition of delusional.

I asked for a list of things god requires us to do, and you could only "guess."

And if I don't love your imaginary god, then what happens to me? Would you use the description that Mary told the three little girls at the sun miracle?

That's OK. We agree on the other 95% of mankind's religious dogma. It's all imaginary except for yours, right?

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442257 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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OK. I will provide you with a very personal example.
My wife, sister, and two small children were threatened with death by a gang. I was in another state at the time. My wife called me about the situation and said if I returned that they would kill me and them also. I came back to my home immediately. The gang tried to decapitate me with a chain when entering my drive, but I was just a little smarter than that. My bike was messed but I was prime.
I Destroyed 15 bad ass assholes(carrying knives guns and pipes) that night with nothing but two hands and the love for my people.
Did I worry if I was gonna die?---HELL NO!
AND THE COPS HAD THE NERVE TA WANT ME TA PAY FOR THE DAMAGE!
THAT'S LOVE!
So violence against violence is what you refer to as LOVE?

Thanks for helping me make my point.

And the idea that you want me to believe that with your two hands you took on 15 criminals is quite the story. It's not believe-able ... but it's quite the story just the same.

It almost compares to the story of a god destroying the whole civilization with a flood because of evil.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442258 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>None of the above June.IMO
So if YOU were making the laws how would you handle these people and at the same time, align your behavior to an act of LOVE?

:)

June VanDerMark wrote:

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I agree.
But how far do we allowed people to go with the "freedom of religion" law?
Should JWs be allowed to deprive their children of live sustaining blood and allow them to die?
Should snake handlers be allowed to indoctrinate their children that handling poisonous snakes is aligned to a god's will?
Where is the fine line?
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442259 May 18, 2013
What "rules" does God require me to obey?

No one has a simple and concise list. How about the 10 Commandments.

Surely all Christians can agree on something "from God" as simple and concise as the 10 Commandments, right?

Did Jesus change the 10 Commandments? Jews seemed to understand them.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442260 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Well...I don't have a book in the other hand. so where do you suppose I should go now?
Hate or love?
Well ... when you can explain the difference between what people refer to as hate and love, please let me know.

Those who held the bible in one hand and the sword in the other seemed to be sure they knew the meaning of love.

Holy war or Just war to me are conflicting statements, as killing can't be a holy act ... but to those in religion it meant and still means to some that the gods supported the killing.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442261 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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You can believe or disbelieve any goddam thing you want biotch.
Those of us that have experienced those things---KNOW!
Now HOW DO YA LIKE THAT FER apples?
uHH UHH UHH...
More LOVE from the teacher of LOVE huh?

:)
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#442262 May 18, 2013
From Exodus:

"... for I the LORD your God am a jealous God,visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me."

Why does this god get angry at a person's family for 4 generations?

The concept is not only unjust, but absurd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Commandments
truth

Perth, Australia

#442263 May 18, 2013
java=see old graveyards
you not tell me
how many times in circle we past from one side to another..
try win yourself=its who say to me
how you call that
win your ego
win yourself

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442264 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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It is obvious that you have never had any experience whatsoever with it.
No, I haven't had any visitors from outer space ... and I also haven't had any visits from a devil or a god.

Even when I was under the spell of religion, I never had any visits from a devil or a god.

Anything is possible, but it hasn't happened to me as of yet.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442265 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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No you seem to still be in the cellar.
So you perceive that I am in the cellar, and you have advanced to the upper room HUH???

You might be right.

:)
truth

Perth, Australia

#442266 May 18, 2013
Who created you?

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442267 May 18, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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I can not show you empirical evidence. We took 15 pictures with our "accident report camera", but when we went to retrieve them, they were already "picked up".--not undevelopable--already picked up!
BY who?, and why?...how the hell did they know?
We had at least 15 other(truckers) witnesses to it all. never mind, you are unapproacable anyway. Why even bother.
UH HUH.

It's plain that you believe YOU are a super-god that came in from outer space. To beat on up on 15 criminals with your bare hands while they had weapons is not an ordinary feat by any stretch of imagination.

GEEZ LOUISE ... and I thought the Christians lived in illusion!!!

:)
truth

Perth, Australia

#442268 May 18, 2013
Did you have your Creator?

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442269 May 18, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
Let me apologize for referring for saying the some Christians are imbecilic. You're not imbecilic. Some of you just don't have spiritual eyes to see but you're not imbecilic. Those that love God are far from being imbecilic.
The ones that supported holy and just wars "loved" their images of gods ... but they didn't love the humans whose blood they were spilling.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442270 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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Origen was a real Christian.
As occurred with many Catholics, when he dared to disagree with the ones in power, he was excommunicated.
truth

Perth, Australia

#442271 May 18, 2013
please tell me
Who is your Creator..does meter did you liked me or not..or i died or not or lost or about what?

Who created you?

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442272 May 18, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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Yes, the Quran says Mary was a virgin. The books of Abraham have many similarities.
The myth of Mary came down the myth-chute from the Pagan religions.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred objects … by Barbara G. Walker.

Mary

One of the symbols of the Virgin Mary reveals the reason that four-leaf clover design in Mary’s sign develops from a Maltese cross, and also includes symbols of the night and day (or dark and full moons) while it points to the four directions. 1 As a pagan design, which it used to be, this probably referred to the four solar turning-points of the year and the nocturnal “eves” when their celebrations were held.

Pagan symbols often became “lucky” in a nonpagan society that refused to recognize their original sense, just as the Goddess Fortuna became Lady Luck, and a rabbit’s foot became a charm instead of a sacred talisman of the Moon-hare. The basic paganism of Mary as a composite of the ancient Goddess images led church fathers to oppose her worship most bitterly in the early centuries, and to declare heretical those who claimed she was truly divine. 2 Anastasius insisted that she must never be called Mother of God, for “it is impossible that God should be born of a woman.” 3 Nevertheless, people went right on calling her Mother of God. Eventually, realizing her powerful hold on the masses, churchmen themselves adopted all manner of extravagant praises of the ancient Goddess, newly applied to Mary. She was declared “queen of heaven, empress of hell, lady of all the world.” 4 The Office of the Virgin even made her the world’s primal being,“created from the beginning and before the centuries.” 5

Therefore it was perhaps not so strange that Mary should be symbolized by a sign of the old Goddess who established four elements and the four directions at the same time that she gave birth to the gods.

1. Lechner,108.
2. Briffault 3, 183.
3. de Riencourt, 150
4. Scot, 348.
5. Male, 238.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#442273 May 18, 2013
God created us.
truth

Perth, Australia

#442274 May 18, 2013
Then..please tell me..
Did you have your Creator?

Where is first Eden as well perfection?

Who destroy that when you don't liked spilling blade>?

Is that your game toward me?

Why you try act as accuser but not answear who is destroyer of first perfection and liked be bigger then real Creator.

Since: Sep 09

Terrace, Canada

#442275 May 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I can't imagine you or June following any rules dictated by a Judeo-Christian God.
When I was in religion I didn't believe a god would dictate rules after promising free will.

I tried then to be kind to my neighbors and I try now to be kind to my neighbors. And if there is a god and he doesn't like that, then I believe that he can punish me without your assistance.

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