Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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Dan

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May 17, 2013
 
Dan wrote:
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I have acknowledged, on several occasions I'm sure, that our sources differ concerning the gospels and sourcing of same.
The "difference" you insist upon isn't a substantive difference. You relying on more men's writings than I rely upon is you, still, relying upon men's writings to inform your faith.
The actual "difference" here between us is that I don't pretend that I don't it and hope you won't notice.
Correction:

"....I don't pretend that I don't do it..."

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#441954
May 17, 2013
 
June VanDerMark wrote:
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As for a spirit in the mosquito ... I prefer the word energy, as it does not denote religion ... it sticks to a natural equation that resides in all forms of life.
We agree here. All living things have an "energy" source.
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"Correct, I have used other men and their theories to formulate my belief. "
So, your point is really "OK for me, but not for thee".
Did I get that right?
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No - I just didn't stop with the men you religion chose to end with.
That is the difference that you refuse to acknowledge.
With you dwelling on what "I do" only goies to show you KNOW that what I do is more than what you ever have done.
Live with it, you aren't a so-called "Christian" per your own standards.
But, you do as I do.

You and I rely upon ancient texts concerning Christ and His teachings to inform our faith and/or beliefs.

You just think you get the Ecclesial Cookie/Gold Star/T-Shirt for using sources I don't believe reliable, as if "I use more texts than you" somehow means "I don't rely on what men have written like you do".

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May 17, 2013
 
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Maybe you could try pointing out for morals that you have in your attitude concerning religion, that I as an Atheist don't have in mine.
That's one of my points I've made.

One does not need religion to gain certain morals, although the morals used within religion can be attained outside of religion.

It doesn't require any "leader" to recognize this. Although you seem to think it does.

Hmmmmm....only four years, right?

I understand.

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May 17, 2013
 
Just Sayin wrote:
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We are supposed to be careful about what prophet we believe. Very careful. The prophets in the Bible have proven themselves to be inspired by God since their prophecies have come true. There have been countless others since then whose prophecies have not come true. The stupidest ones are those that claim they know the day (and hour even) that Jesus will return, then *poof*, nothing.
LOL!
That's like asking to be shot. isn't it?
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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Jesus didn't write any of the texts in the NT, but you believe those.
Confused on what texts were written or by whom?
We've already gone over this and was recent. Look back a few pages for the answer.
Not confused at all. Jesus didn't write any of the NT books nor did He write the Gospel of Thomas.

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Your post contradicts the validity of the Bible.
Fallible man ["But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:] cannot discern those things that are spiritually given.
Are you saying some other being wrote the Bible?
Bible, The - A collection of writings recognized as inspired
Bible.

Authenticity of the - The authority of Holy Writ is twofold on account of its twofold authorship: human authors and divine inspiration.

Logic: Any human that writes what the Holy Spirit inspires him to write is infallible. He is acting as a secretary taking dictation...his words are given to him by the infallible Holy Spirit.

Am not surprised that this comes as news to you!!!

Glad to help...

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The False Prophet will come from the Vatican. The Beast will likely come from the Islamic community. The airplane attacks on the twin towers convinced me of that,though I could be wrong.
Off-topic...but relevant to this post....

Nostradamus - in his letter to King Henry II - to some, prophecised this occurrance:

http://www.propheties.it/nostradamus/letters/...

"All the Kingdoms of Christianity will tremble, even those of the infidels, for the space of twenty-five years. Wars and battles will be more grievous and towns, cities, castles and all other edifices will be burned, desolated and destroyed, with great effusion of vestal blood, violations of married woman and widows, and sucking children dashed and broken against the walls of towns. By means of Satan, Prince Infernal, so may evils will be committed that nearly all the world will find itself undone and desolated.

>>>>Before these events, some rare birds will cry in the air: Hui, Hui [Today, today] and some time later will vanish. "<<<<

- one could say that he "saw" the terrorists attack on 9/11 500 years before it occurred.

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Religion A Delusion wrote:
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God is love? Bull. God is fear. Most of God's own creation will not make the grade, mainly because they were born in the wrong geographical area.
Matthew 7:13-14
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."
That sounds more like a neurotic, vengeful God who is angry at the little ants in his ant farm, so he is going to punish most of the ants.
Who would condemn most of its own creation for such arbitrary reasons, except a psycho-god?
Holy Psycho Batman!!
Jesus came "in the fullness of time" at the height of the roman empire, in the center of trade/middle east and at the zenith of the Jewish nation.

"this thing wasn't done in a corner" as the Good Book says, and no one is hidden from the results of the Savior.

you obviously know, so what the haael do you think your excuse is gonna be?!

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Preaching ABOUT the meaning of love, does not mean that the preachers know the meaning of love.
I've met many preachers that preach about how to get to heaven and how to avoid hell, as though a god has placed a stamp on their foreheads that states ... "saved!
Silly stuff spews from the mouths of preachers, who belief that they are "all that" to their selves and therefore MUST be "all that" to a god.
I somehow doubt that if a creator exists, that the creator would be so easily fooled by worship from those who adore their own reflections that come back to them through words they glean from human-created literature.
Not into love, okay, let's see if there are other morals that you can take part in.

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Who's adding to what is written? Not me.
I've taken what has been written and tried to explain to you and others, that what you accept is incomplete without them.
You chosen to not believe this and to believe men instead.
So be it.
yes - you can put me on record as not accepting the Go-Porno books of the mystics so it's no point arguing on this any longer:)

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It's "formidable" and "gleaned", since we're speaking of "not very knowledgeable".
Thanks for correcting my error.

I'll make a note of it.

I'll be sure to let you grade all my posts from this point on, okay? You seem to like doing this, and you should do what you like.

You surely are a "Christian", so maybe a English teacher is more suited for you.

Thanks again for looking out for me.

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Dan wrote:
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Somehow, your methodology is superior to mine, although you take great pains here to avoid telling me why it's A.) better and/or B.) different.
Oh I have, you just refuse to accept it.

"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."

Once you get to this level of understanding Jesus, all others become very clear.

But since you reject this teaching by Jesus, it seems you will never reach that pinnacle of success.

Like I said, bummer for you.

I wonder what JohnfmNJ is doing now-a-days?

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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You've added an additional zero to the mix. Probably to appease your own psyche.
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Bullshite.
Why do you make things up?
Nothing in the document even express "anti-christ".
Do you even know the origin of the term "anti-christ"?
Learn it - it will help you immensely.
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We know....we are dealling with a "Clown".
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yeah....i'm the sheriff up in here and this town ain't big enough for the both of us;)

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What would make you think I reject that?
Christ IS the Son of God. But God isn't an old guy with a white beard. He's the light, love, mercy; name any adjective that describes perfection and wonder. God manifested Himself as a human being,(Jesus Christ). Fully Divine because he is in fact God.
But you already know all of this. You're just toying with sacred scripture to be cute. If I was you, I wouldn't get into the business of messing with our scripture like that to spread gossip about the nature of Jesus Christ. You maybe playing with your salvation.
"What would make you think I reject that?"

Your words:
God manifested Himself as a human being,(Jesus Christ).
Fully Divine because he is in fact God.

As I said....you have been certified as dumb...you again proved it..

You are not answering my questions...Why are you rejecting the teaching of your religion that is supported by Scripture...
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LOL!
That's like asking to be shot. isn't it?
Yup. Wasn't there some dude who got a bunch of people to sell their houses and quit their jobs and gather to be raptured and then they weren't? Unbelievably, he didn't get beat to death by his followers. Harold Camping, I think was his name.

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Dan wrote:
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The actual "difference" here between us is that I don't pretend that I don't it and hope you won't notice.
Nope - still incorrect Dan.

I've admitted to everything you have said above.

BUT....

I am just more honest than you to admit those facts and how they show that Christianity has short-changed Jesus.

That is the difference. I'll recap a few of the beliefs we differ in:

a. Jesus didn't rise in bodily form
b. I believe in all of what Jesus taught - you don't
c. We didn't come from dirt, nor were we created as the only being in this universe
d. Your religious beliefs are not "of God", but of man.

There - take your best shot. I know you want to. That is what Catholics do - uphold their egotistical arrogance that they have all the answers.

You still don't.
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Religion A Delusion wrote:
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The question itself displays severe denial.
"What diseases can we cure?"
A simple bacterial infection.
How about the Bubonic Plague.(How many prayers were wasted on that for centuries?)
Luke, the delusion is severe in this one.
Hmm!
An infection is growth of pathogenic microorganisms in the body, whether or not body function is impaired.

Disease is any change from a state of health; impaired body function. The disease state is associated with the manifestation of symptoms such as fever, pain, aches etc., due to failure of immune system to control in the first round of the growth of infectious agent (s).

try again....this one did not work.

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Dan wrote:
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But, you do as I do.
You and I rely upon ancient texts concerning Christ and His teachings to inform our faith and/or beliefs.
You just think you get the Ecclesial Cookie/Gold Star/T-Shirt for using sources I don't believe reliable, as if "I use more texts than you" somehow means "I don't rely on what men have written like you do".
That could also mean the HS is guiding me and not you.

;o)

Why don't you believe Jesus?

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Just Sayin wrote:
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Not confused at all. Jesus didn't write any of the NT books nor did He write the Gospel of Thomas.
So why do you believe men were accurate after they accumulated those certain texts in the NT?

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