Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 653684 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441562 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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That's a new term to me.
Conspiracy Christianity? LOL, Clay came up with it!
I thought it was appropriate to the discussion. You know, with the Vatican hiding those documents and all.

What a wonder....they're now on the internet for all to see!!
How did that happen?!

;)

“let's do this thang!”

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#441563 May 16, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The BS of hundredds of priests over 1700. Yes.
Christiianity has nothing to do with Jesus and never has.
You follow Paul, Popes, Emperors and Preists. Not the teachings of Jesus.
"Jesus wept."
don't forget; 'and paul wept too':-(

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#441564 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Why does it have to be either/or? Why can't it both God and ufos exist?
Consider the book of Enoch in that light...just say'n...
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441565 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You could've posted links to those teachings, texts, etc.
Your excuse is just that, an excuse not to post.
Which would show you, how you are wrong in what you say you believe.
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There you go again, limiting it to just the Bible.
Seriously, please stop. Jesus taught much more than what is listed in the Bible.
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Incorrect, Luke used it for his source, that is why you see the similarities.
More pointedly, GoThomas, considered to be written earlier than GoLuck or GoMatt, thus making it an earlier source, and thus is actually what should be part of the canon.
If it contradicts, as you said, in what way? Please be specific. Especially, since you also agree, that many of the teachings reside within the NT.
You seem to be contradicting your own statements.
Maybe you haven't researched this depth of Jesus' teachings.
*shrugs*
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Just out of curiosity - what do you think this passage actually means?
If you were to accept his teachings here, you will notice that he is STRICTLY SPEAKING of a the transformation of one's SPIRIT. Males become Spirit, as do women.
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No it isn't. I call it truth. As should you.
You do want to become like Jesus, right?
The goal is to become like Jesus, yes.

Here is something else written in the GoTom that is very uncharacteristic of Jesus' teachings as recorded in the NT.

"Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you
make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside,
and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the
female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the
female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,
and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and
a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
Kingdom]."

“let's do this thang!”

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#441566 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You are projecting.
I do not know how many times I've stated, I believe in ALL OF WHAT JESUS TAUGHT.
Turning and twisting what I've stated to fit your own mind, is wrong, deceitful and just plain "un-Christain".
I guess you keep forgetting that Christianity limited what Jesus taught, not me.
Take your unfounded discourse elsewhere - you really shouldn't make up false things about others.
dude - you can't mix and teach what Jesus actually said with what mystics claim he said or your headed for disaster and rightly so!:

"If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book"
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441567 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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When you can list the texts that Catholicism approves, that is when I will move on.
Until then, JS is a heretic. Not by my standards, but by Catholicism's.
If you refute this, then the onus would be on you to show that he (or yourself) is.
I'll wait......probably along time, because I know you won't post anything that spoils the "truth" you think exists.
But, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Give it a try - and don't forget, be honest.
You can't even be honest enough to retract your erroneous statements and you're admonishing honesty in others??

Look, you said he wasn't a Catholic if he accepted non-canonical writings. Those were your words.
You can twist.
And you can spin.
And you can dance.
And you can deflect.
And you can strawman till your heart's content.

But you said it.

And you were wrong.

Period.

lol......
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441568 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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But he is. You have listed me as such, because I use non-canonical texts.
Please stop twisting your theology to fit what you think it should be.
Catholicism only consideres what they choose to be "true" and all non-canonical, though inspired by "God" are not.
Are you going to refute this?
Yes.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441569 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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maybe I should've asked you instead:
Please list all those texts that are approved by the Catholic Church to be "of God".
They don't have to be "of God".

(This is elementary stuff, nasl. As an ex-Catholic you should know this. Don't tell me you're another seminar Catholic!)
Dan

Omaha, NE

#441570 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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I never said he couldn't read them. He has every right to believe as he chooses, it still doesn't change the fact that inspiration is "not dead" with others. Nor does it resolve that others can be inspired and write about "God".
But you and Catholicism dismiss many non-canonical INSPIRED documents as heresy.
Twisting my point around to fit whatever means you want it to, will not change what you continually dismiss - "that the non-canonical texts are inspired". Please stop doing so.
Stop asking you to substantiate the premise of your argument-just take it at face.

Got it.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441571 May 16, 2013
Religion A Delusion wrote:
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That's not the Catholic Church.
If you find anything from the church that refers to the science of God, please post.
Yes, that was from the Catholic Church. The speaker is Tim Staples, Director of Apologetcs and Evangelization at Catholic Answers.

I will post more about the science side of theology from the CC tomorrow.
Gotta run for now.

Since: Jun 10

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#441572 May 16, 2013
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Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Well then, maybe it's time you got one that states what Jesus actually said, rather than one that "redacted" everything that he really said!
Try the NH library, Or the Qumran scrolls for a start.
But yer "pope" might jist "smite ya fer it!
Oh...Ya want some of yer favorite Seagrams 7 fer the trip?
Personally, I find it rather "cheap and trashy proof"...as I find "you".
You are articulating through that famous orifice!!! You have no idea of which denomination I am a member of.....
CatholicGuy61

Cincinnati, OH

#441573 May 16, 2013
If you don't like the Catholic Church, don't become Catholic. It's that freakin' simple. I was a protestant for 20 years, an atheist for 30, and now I'm Catholic and loving it. I sleep better, I feel better, I have peace and hope. Even my marriage is better. I would say "that's just me", but it's that way for a lot of people. Check out your local parish's RCIA class. No the Church isn't perfect.(Is any church?) But after fifty years, I've found what works for me. Peace to you all.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#441574 May 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Scholars(who you believe you are more knowledgeable than) have the date of the Gospel of Thomas set at about 80 AD.
funny, i just saw a documentary on the national geographic or history channel where 'scholars' said it was written by "mystics" and thought to be around "500 AD".

the slant of the doc was antichrist (go figure), so they did everything they could to favor these trashy go-porno's, but at least they couldn't lie about their origin or date.

i've been telling you for sometime now, you ain't dealing with another typical luther/cath/evange dork here!;)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#441575 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I hate it when people say "It's God's will" when something terrible happens. Bad things will happen and it is God's favorite thing to make something good come of it.
There was a woman who grew up hating God because when she was seven her mom died and at the funeral service, the preacher, during the eulogy, looked right at her and said "Jesus took your mommy to be with Him." It affected her very very deeply. She finally went into therapy later in life because of all the issues she had.
i can in a way relate to that,not on a personal basis but by listening to people,i was a cab driver(10yrs),and i have picked people up from the local hospital who just lost a loved one and 7 out of 10 blame god/Jesus for taking their loved one away, I've heard them say they'll never step inside a church again etc etc.one old guy beat up the back seat of my car he was so upset kept repeating how they went to church regularly lived by gods word and he looses his wife way to soon,i stayed with him till he cooled down and a relative showed up,i felt really bad for him.but that's the natural order of life,in with the new out with the old.and some don't get a chance to get old.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441576 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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To be Catholic - one is required to abide by two texts - The Catechism and the Bible - the only two authorized "truths" concerning "God" - all others are apocryphal and not "quite truthful" ("suspect") because they are not part of the canon.
- The Catechism - man-made texts
- The Bible - man-made texts
You can deny it all day long, it will not change these facts.
lol, silly child.

You were never Catholic, were you?

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#441577 May 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Scholars(who you believe you are more knowledgeable than) have the date of the Gospel of Thomas set at about 80 AD.
your defending the mystic go-pornos on one side of your mouth and then cursing the Good Book on the other should be proof enough that they're antichrist documents for anyone with half a brain;)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#441578 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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C'mon - are you serious Jethro? Asking these questions of me now?
You've been here a while now, and you've seen and answered many of my posts.
You figure it out.
I'll give you help in this area:
- I'm not Catholic nor am I a so-called "Christian"
- Jesus is not "God" - he never called himself such, so why should others? Arrogance and ego comes to mind rather quickly.
- No Jesus didn't create anything. Men created the supposed "Catholic Church" - and is only one organization within the so-called "Church"
- As for my religious affiliation or "belief", well up until June arrived, I would consider myself Gnostic, but now that she has turned me into something else, I guess I am still seeking out a new order. What do you think I should become?
- as for why.....why not? Is there a problem with me believing the way I want? Is something bad going to happen to me, if I do?
nothing wrong with you at all,if you read any of my posts i do have short term memory trouble,and i hasd an idea where your head was at,but to make sure i threw these questions right in your face to see what kind of reply i'd get,and what does june have to do with your beliefs? she making you rethink?

Since: Jun 10

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#441579 May 16, 2013
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G_O_D wrote:
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The BS of hundredds of priests over 1700. Yes.
Christiianity has nothing to do with Jesus and never has.
You follow Paul, Popes, Emperors and Preists. Not the teachings of Jesus.
"Jesus wept."
Which planet are you from????

Christianos: a Christian, i.e. follower of Christ:--Christian.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#441580 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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KJV:
Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods;
and all of you are children of the Most High.
John 10:34-36
New International Version (NIV)
34 Jesus answered them,“Is it not written in your Law,‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said,‘I am God’s Son’?
Jesus specifically states he is not "God", but we are all "sons of God".
Yep - I agree.
Yep.

Is is further upheld in Genesis when El gets pissed off that Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge, they became Mortal Gods. El even mentions that it was good that they didn't eat from the tree of life or they would have been immortal as well.

We are simply Gods that can die... Just like Jesus died.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#441581 May 16, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You are articulating through that famous orifice!!! You have no idea of which denomination I am a member of.....
And I don't particularly care.
If you want the truth of what Jesus taught, you will have to go back to the earliest writings of his actual sayings. In that you will find a message and instructions to find "the Kingdom". It makes much more sense if you understand the teachings of early Egypt. It is not a "crash course". It takes time and effort. All of the famous Greek philosophers and scholars who studied there applied that knowledge to their efforts,[re]creating a theology of sorts, that led to what you have today(after much redaction by the Roman "elite".

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