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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687165 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441550 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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WOW - first you state this....
"I said *public* revelation (revelation meant for the public at large, meaning revelation for everyone universally) stopped when last Apostle died."
...and then in the same breath....
"
Private revelation by the HS happens all the time, and yes, people do have the ability to express God in written form, and yes, even if they are not an Apostle."
Covering all the basics for yourself, huh?
Like I said, you are not a Catholic if you have chosen to believe these things you stated.
Welcome to my world.
Public revelation is what we have in Scripture and Tradition. Even though there is no new public revelation, the Church can progress in deepened understanding of said revelation. This revelation is for all people throughout the ages.

Private revelation is given to individuals and may or may not be relevant to other people. The most the Church can say about someone's private revelation is whether or not it contradicts public revelation.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13001a.htm

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441551 May 16, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Here is what you said:
Post #441486
"If you accept other teachings, then guess what, you aren't Catholic, but only in your own mind.
In fact, you would be considered a heretic if you utilize non-canonical works.
Just ask Regina and Dan."
This is incorrect. Just admit it and move on.
To be Catholic - one is required to abide by two texts - The Catechism and the Bible - the only two authorized "truths" concerning "God" - all others are apocryphal and not "quite truthful" ("suspect") because they are not part of the canon.
- The Catechism - man-made texts
- The Bible - man-made texts

You can deny it all day long, it will not change these facts.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#441552 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I think they talk about the science of God, it's just that it doesn't hit the main stream media.
Here's an example:
http://www.catholic.com/video/why-be-catholic...
That's not the Catholic Church.

If you find anything from the church that refers to the science of God, please post.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441553 May 16, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Some of those works are non-canonical. The others are either part of Scripture or Tradition. None have been "hidden by Rome".
LOL....
He sounds like another one who believes in "conspiracy Christianity" (thanks, Clay!).
That's a new term to me.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#441554 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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What do you think about the huge increase in ufo sitings this past decade? Have you seen videos from around the world in which you can hear these strange sounds coming from the sky? Do you get the sense that we are on the verge of something big?
No. I think we are more aware of what is going on in our atmosphere, and share almost instant worldwide communication about it all. Until it is defined, it will naturally appear to many as "supernatural".
Of course, we have the deliberate frauds trashing the media for whatever reasons, but it is an actuality that even our government takes seriously, and has for years.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441555 May 16, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Again, you are incorrect.
Why do you mislead others?
What nothing to provide that shows I am incorrect?

Typical Catholic.

Always admonishing others, but never with evidence or support.

I think you forgot to check your ego at the door.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441556 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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The CC doesn't put limitations on the writings of God. Vatican Library has over 75,000 books.
But they sure put a limit on what Jesus taught.

Fail.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441557 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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The CC doesn't put limitations on the writings of God. Vatican Library has over 75,000 books.
My local public library has many also.

So.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441558 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I believe those men chose correctly because they were qualified to and they were led by the HS.
They were?

Do you have something from "God" that dictates this? You know - a statement by "God" dictating that 300+ bishops have been guided.

I thought you said the HS only guided up and until the Last of the Apostles?
Just Sayin wrote:
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GoThomas has been shown to contradict the Bible, plus it has been shown to have been written well after Thomas had died.
So was every document that is in the NT, except some of "Paul's" letters - which were also written many years (decades) after Jesus died.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#441559 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Public revelation is what we have in Scripture and Tradition. Even though there is no new public revelation, the Church can progress in deepened understanding of said revelation. This revelation is for all people throughout the ages.
Private revelation is given to individuals and may or may not be relevant to other people. The most the Church can say about someone's private revelation is whether or not it contradicts public revelation.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13001a.htm
More qualifiers JS?

How 'bout this - list all the qualifiers one must abide by in order to believe as you do.

Do you even understand the points I am trying to convey?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#441560 May 16, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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Thoams was an apostle, but gotommy-boy wasn't written by him, it was written by a mystic/new age flame-job some 500 years later.
SELF-WORSHIP (is the very definition of satanism;)
Scholars(who you believe you are more knowledgeable than) have the date of the Gospel of Thomas set at about 80 AD.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441561 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Thanks for posting those links, Regina, the tour was very interesting as was the article. Made my day!
You're welcome! It's neat, isn't it?

I noticed the info I posted about the obelisk in St. Peter's Square wasn't well received by the protestants, lol! Offensive or not, I have to say it....their thinking is very one-dimensional.

The obelisk was moved to the square because it had witnessed the martyrdom of Christians. Once it was moved, it was dedicated to Christ with the words "Christus Vincit, Christus Regnat, Christus Imperat. Christus ab omni malo plebem suam defendat."(Christ is the victor, Christ is King, Christ is the ruler, May Christ defend His people from all evil). On The east and west sides are inscribed exorcist formulas. It is topped by a bronze cross.

It now stands as a memorial to those who gave their lives for Christ and the Gospel....and the protestants think that's evil. It's hard to have patience with such twisted thinking. That's probably why Jesus said to pray for such people.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441562 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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That's a new term to me.
Conspiracy Christianity? LOL, Clay came up with it!
I thought it was appropriate to the discussion. You know, with the Vatican hiding those documents and all.

What a wonder....they're now on the internet for all to see!!
How did that happen?!

;)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#441563 May 16, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The BS of hundredds of priests over 1700. Yes.
Christiianity has nothing to do with Jesus and never has.
You follow Paul, Popes, Emperors and Preists. Not the teachings of Jesus.
"Jesus wept."
don't forget; 'and paul wept too':-(

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#441564 May 16, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Why does it have to be either/or? Why can't it both God and ufos exist?
Consider the book of Enoch in that light...just say'n...
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#441565 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You could've posted links to those teachings, texts, etc.
Your excuse is just that, an excuse not to post.
Which would show you, how you are wrong in what you say you believe.
<quoted text>
There you go again, limiting it to just the Bible.
Seriously, please stop. Jesus taught much more than what is listed in the Bible.
<quoted text>
Incorrect, Luke used it for his source, that is why you see the similarities.
More pointedly, GoThomas, considered to be written earlier than GoLuck or GoMatt, thus making it an earlier source, and thus is actually what should be part of the canon.
If it contradicts, as you said, in what way? Please be specific. Especially, since you also agree, that many of the teachings reside within the NT.
You seem to be contradicting your own statements.
Maybe you haven't researched this depth of Jesus' teachings.
*shrugs*
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Just out of curiosity - what do you think this passage actually means?
If you were to accept his teachings here, you will notice that he is STRICTLY SPEAKING of a the transformation of one's SPIRIT. Males become Spirit, as do women.
<quoted text>
No it isn't. I call it truth. As should you.
You do want to become like Jesus, right?
The goal is to become like Jesus, yes.

Here is something else written in the GoTom that is very uncharacteristic of Jesus' teachings as recorded in the NT.

"Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when you
make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside,
and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the
female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the
female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,
and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and
a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
Kingdom]."

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#441566 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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You are projecting.
I do not know how many times I've stated, I believe in ALL OF WHAT JESUS TAUGHT.
Turning and twisting what I've stated to fit your own mind, is wrong, deceitful and just plain "un-Christain".
I guess you keep forgetting that Christianity limited what Jesus taught, not me.
Take your unfounded discourse elsewhere - you really shouldn't make up false things about others.
dude - you can't mix and teach what Jesus actually said with what mystics claim he said or your headed for disaster and rightly so!:

"If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book"
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441567 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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When you can list the texts that Catholicism approves, that is when I will move on.
Until then, JS is a heretic. Not by my standards, but by Catholicism's.
If you refute this, then the onus would be on you to show that he (or yourself) is.
I'll wait......probably along time, because I know you won't post anything that spoils the "truth" you think exists.
But, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Give it a try - and don't forget, be honest.
You can't even be honest enough to retract your erroneous statements and you're admonishing honesty in others??

Look, you said he wasn't a Catholic if he accepted non-canonical writings. Those were your words.
You can twist.
And you can spin.
And you can dance.
And you can deflect.
And you can strawman till your heart's content.

But you said it.

And you were wrong.

Period.

lol......
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441568 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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But he is. You have listed me as such, because I use non-canonical texts.
Please stop twisting your theology to fit what you think it should be.
Catholicism only consideres what they choose to be "true" and all non-canonical, though inspired by "God" are not.
Are you going to refute this?
Yes.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#441569 May 16, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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maybe I should've asked you instead:
Please list all those texts that are approved by the Catholic Church to be "of God".
They don't have to be "of God".

(This is elementary stuff, nasl. As an ex-Catholic you should know this. Don't tell me you're another seminar Catholic!)

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