Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 692110 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Just Sayin

Mount Juliet, TN

#440856 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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That is because you are still embedded in the words.
Move past the words and understand their meanings.
Answer me this....what do these words mean to you?
"those who believe in him should not perish"
It means that those who believe He is Who He says He is, and believes He meant what He said, and consequently obey Him will go to heaven.
That is the short answer.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#440857 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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:)
He didn't say anything that wasn't true and easily provable on this thread alone. So why the smirk?

You wouldn't be judging him, now would you, June? You?? Nah, no way. You've above all that, right?
Just Sayin

Mount Juliet, TN

#440858 May 14, 2013
marge wrote:
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17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished to all good works.
2 Thessalonians 2:14
Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned,***whether by word***, or by our epistle.

That means oral traditions, as opposed to written.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the ***church*** of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

That means the Church is the pillar and ground of the truth.

Only question is: Which one?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#440860 May 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
610
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Call them what you will...but you cannot refute the truth in them..
Following your logic, we need to trash the Word of God...most of it was written over 6,000 years ago!!!!!!
If somebody showed me I posted some lies, do you think I would continue on with that? This shows how twisted your brand of the faith is. Its completely warped.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#440861 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I want people to stop fighting over who the supposed god loves and who the supposed god rejects.
It's the stuff played in school-yards by little children.
Adults should know better.
June VanDerMark:

A noble desire and thought. I am (supposedly) glad.

Now if we can work on overgeneralizations, things might move in that direction.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#440863 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Fear - Created in the minds of those who are willing to allow it to reside.
Satan - a construct of man to instill fear.
There - I've give you the information to move forward from being fearful.
New Age Spiritual Leader:

So, by inference, you haven't met any angels?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440864 May 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
610
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Call them what you will...but you cannot refute the truth in them..
Following your logic, we need to trash the Word of God...most of it was written over 6,000 years ago!!!!!!
one has to wonder what "written" language was used, seeing that "Hebrew writing wasn't even in existence until between 1200-1100 BCE, and so far, no writing has ever reached much past 4000 years in our present knowledge of civilization.
Until such time as that knowledge is refuted, I have to categorize that statement as an "argument from ignorance", or an outright lie.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440865 May 14, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
A noble desire and thought. I am (supposedly) glad.
Now if we can work on overgeneralizations, things might move in that direction.
Where would like to start "generalizing?"

Would it be on the fact that even Protestants can't agree with other Protestants, and Catholics can't agree with other Catholics ... yet they all preach about how to live in the light and the love of "GOD?"

:)
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440866 May 14, 2013
Regina wrote:
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He didn't say anything that wasn't true and easily provable on this thread alone.
For you to perceive that what he wrote was based on truth, he must have agreed with your dogmas?

:)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440867 May 14, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I have never used the phrase "the fullness of Jesus."
I have, however, used the phrase "the fullness of Faith."
http://www.lighthousecatholicmedia.org/store/...
My apologies. In some sense - it is the same, as you claim to have a "fullness of faith" in Jesus/"God". And even then, if you believe Jesus is "God", then the phrasing is still applicable to what you mean.

Just Sayin wrote:
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I am not obliged to believe that the gnostic writings are a reliable source to learn from, just like I am not obliged to believe that Our Lady really appeared at Fatima.

Yep - Self. No religion required.
Just Sayin wrote:
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If either of these things do not contradict the Faith, but enhance it, then great, it can be considered.
Yep - Self again.
Just Sayin wrote:
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Do you know all that Jesus taught? You must since you *know* I don't believe it all.
Hmmmm...interesting tactic. How do I perceive this? As an inquiry? As a noose?

a. you don't believe that any of the non-canonical are valid.
b. You don't believe Jesus taught the things stated in those non-canonical.
c. You don't accept those texts at all.

"Do you know all that Jesus taught?"
- only that which is from those texts that are accessible

This book describes and expresses those specific teachings by Jesus, breaks them down, why they were stated, and the depth of the teachings. You should read it and then try to understand it.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Lost-Gospel-Christi...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440868 May 14, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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It means that those who believe He is Who He says He is, and believes He meant what He said, and consequently obey Him will go to heaven.
Does that mean to you that the Christians that killed each other fighting over religion are sure to go to heaven?

After all, they must have all believed they were following GOD's commands.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440869 May 14, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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If there is no proof of a God one way or the other, why not believe in a God?
And there are Creation stories from all around the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation...
Any one of them gives life special meaning to their believers.
However, some people would rather believe there is no God and life is just a dreary happenstance with little purpose.
And it's perfectly honest to say that if I asked God (or anyone else) for something, the choices He (or anyone else have) in response are: yes, no, or not now.
Many do...just not the "deity" others espouse as real and actual...therein lies the problem with the Abrahamics...INTOLERANCE.
It is shown in many ways. The condemnation of hell being the most arrogant of the assertions.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440870 May 14, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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ain't nothing wrong in my mind with being saved,
As long as it's your butt that you believe is being saved.

If you thought YOU were the one who was going to burn in hell ... would you still be salivating over the bible???
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440871 May 14, 2013
Regina wrote:
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We *hope* to be saved.
Do you doubt it???

Be careful ... you must never show doubt, or you might be OUT!

Silly dogmas!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440872 May 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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These facts show we were brought here by extraterrestrials.
Are you kidding?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440873 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Other than by what you were taught from others, why do you believe there will be a "next realm?"
Are you a believer in modern Paganism?
Because of the evidence accumulated by paranormal researchers.

"Are you a believer in modern Paganism?"
- hmmmm....in what regard? Paganism covers a wide variety of beliefs.

In truth - the original definition of "paga" - was associated to 'country/rural living' or peasants:
- Origin:
1325–75; Middle English < Medieval Latin, Late Latin p&#257;g&#257;nus ‘worshiper of false gods’, orig.‘civilian’(i.e., not a soldier of Christ), Latin:‘peasant’, noun use of p&#257;g&#257;nus ‘rural, civilian’, derivative of p&#257;gus ‘village, rural district’(akin to pangere ‘to fix, make fast’); see -an

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pagan...

So in fact, if "paganism" is a religion of the rural communities, and since I've been a city-boy all my life - that will not fit my character.

Now, sicne you seem to be referrign to a more modern definition - as men of religion deemed suitable - then you will have to clarify a certain field.

To help you decide what you should respond with....I've studied each of the following for at least 3 years:
- Tarot card reading
- Numerology
- the history of magic
- Christianity's pagan roots
- Shamanism
- origins of the "new age" affiliation to religion
- martial arts
....as well as other non-secular topics, in addition to secular religions of Hinduism, Buddhism, Pre-Columbian mythology.

Go ahead - pick a topic. I'll respond if I have learned it.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#440874 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I used to believe in the existence of a god, but those days are over.
"Theological jargon" is a term I don't use lightly.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase & Fable by Ivor H. Evans … First published 1817.
Odium theologicum (o di um the o loj ikim)(Lat.). The bitter hatred of rival theologians. No wars so sanguinary as holy wars; no persecutions so relentless as religious persecutions; no hatred so bitter as theological hatred.
It is quite evident that you still believe in a god....If you don't

then..... WHO ARE YOU RAILING AGAINST?

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#440875 May 14, 2013
Archeologists have dug up remains of ancient humans that appear ape-like in features.

Somehow I can't picture the likes of those hairy creatures riding in on a space-ship to bring their "knowledge" to earth.

Fairy tales were spread around and around
By silly people claiming truth was found

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440876 May 14, 2013
Regina wrote:
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All that means is that you've been baptized into the Catholic Church - not that you are or have ever been a practising Catholic.
False statement. Please don't lie to others about me.

I've completed all the Sacraments, except "Holy Orders" and "Annoiting the Sick".

Wanna try again? Or are you going to continue to make false statements about me?
Regina wrote:
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Why do you mislead others?
I don't. Christianity does though.

Try being honest, and we'll see where that will lead you.

You're up!
Regina wrote:
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(And, yes, I am fully aware of just how much you care for me. The feeling is mutual.)
Thanks!

*hug*
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#440877 May 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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For you to perceive that what he wrote was based on truth, he must have agreed with your dogmas?
:)
You weren't smirking over dogmas.

:)

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