Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440466 May 13, 2013
Having been in religion, I know the feeling of emotional highs, such as the idea that a god created a beautiful sunset, or a rainbow, or the freshness of air after a rain.

But those issues can all be explained by science.

Now, let's go to the negative side of nature, and ask, if animals were created by an all-knowing deity, why they were created with fangs, sharp teeth, claws and venom that they must inflict on other animals in order to survive.

It's not so awe-inspiring ... is it???

If you insist on praising a deity for the beauty, then it's only fair to ask pertinent questions about the reasons for suffering and make the same deity responsible FOR the suffering.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#440467 May 13, 2013
Then there were these doctrines added...
1480 AD The Inquisition (of Spain)

1495 AD Papal control of marriage rights

1534 AD Order of Jesuits founded by Loyola

1545 AD Man-made tradition of church made equal to Bible (Council of Trent)

1545 AD Apocryphal books added to Bible (Council of Trent)

1546 AD Justification by human works of merit

1546 AD Mass universally said in Latin (see 600 AD)

1547 AD Confirmation

1560 AD Personal opinions of Pope Pius IV imposed as the official creed

1864 AD Syllabus Errorum [Syllabus of Errors] proclaimed that "Catholic countries" could not tolerate other religions,(no freedom of religion), conscience, separation of church and State condemned, asserted the Pope's temporal authority over all civil rulers (Ratified by Pope Pius IX and Vatican Council) condemned.

1870 AD Infallibility of Pope (Vatican council)

1908 AD All Catholics should be christened into the church

1930 AD Public Schools condemned by Pope Pius XII (see 1864 AD)

1950 AD Sinners prayer, invented by Billy Sunday and made popular by Billy Graham.(Some Catholics now use this)

1950 AD Assumption of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven shortly after her death.(Pope Pius XII)

1954 AD Immaculate conception of Mary proclaimed by Pope Pius XII

1995 AD The use of girls in the traditional altar boy duties

1996 AD Catholics can believe in Evolution (Pope John Paul II)

and so it goes on....

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440468 May 13, 2013
Theologians needed something to write in order to earn their keep.

And write they did ... books and books and books explaining the supposed meanings of scriptures ... as though the people who read the bibles were too dumb to take their own meanings from the words ... which is ultimately what happened anyway.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440469 May 13, 2013
This theologian used the bible to write his own interpretation in close to four hundred "odd" books.

If the bible was straight forward in it's messages, why would a theologian believe he could make the meanings more clear to people, unless he was extremely arrogant?

He must have believed others were too dumb to see what he saw in the bible. There could BE no other reason.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

History of the United States … by Charles A. Beard and Mary R. Beard. The Macmillan Company 1923.

The clergy became a powerful class, dominant through their learning and their fearful denunciations of the faithless. They wrote the books for the people to read—the famous Cotton Mather having three hundred and eighty-three books and pamphlets to his credit.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#440470 May 13, 2013
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Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, alcoholism is a affliction, even when defines incorrectly as you have here.
I got that definition out of a new book new on the open market...it is called "English Dictionary!!!!!"

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

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#440471 May 13, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>they left out the good parts:, Benedict led a highly immoral life, and was accused of various rapes, adulteries, and murders. According to St. Peter Damian, Benedict was “a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest,” and his carousing eventually caused him to be forcefully expelled from Rome.Benedict managed to regain his throne, but then – surprise, surprise!– he was sidetracked by a prospective marriage (to his cousin) and sold the papal chair for a significant amount of money to his godfather, a priest who named himself Pope Gregory VI.
JETHRO:WHY DID THEY LEAVE THIS OUT? IT'S PART OF HIS HISTORY AS POPE?
Yes, as I was growing up, my grandmother would occasionally tell me that Catholicism was a cult... I didn't see it at the time, but the picture is clear now...

Have you seen the Pope's cross he carries? It's bent over at the top which is a Satanic symbol...

ps. I have found other things left out as well...

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440472 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
This doctrine/dogma has been in litigation for centuries.
The gent who wrote this book, tries to describe the many changes that occurred in the "Christian" community during the early, formible years:
http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Wars-Patriarchs-E...
It appears that brute force was a catalyst in people changing their mind. I'm glad this doesn't go on today.
It does...only under different "auspices", and in varying degrees...since civilization has come to understand the atrocity and passed laws against it's actions.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#440473 May 13, 2013
242
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you are a polytheist?
If so, you've wasted a great deal of your time with the Bible.
It's commonly used only by monotheists.
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Clue....the voice from Heaven is God speaking...."my beloved Son" is Jesus....(they are not one....they are two)

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Clue..."And he" is Jesus praying "O my Father".....(they are not one....they are two)

The Holy Trinity...before and after Christ lived on earth: The Father...the Son...the Holy Spirit...

During His time on earth: The Father....the incarnate Son of God...the Holy Spirit....

There is no other way to express the Holy Trinity....period...
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#440474 May 13, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, as I was growing up, my grandmother would occasionally tell me that Catholicism was a cult... I didn't see it at the time, but the picture is clear now...
Have you seen the Pope's cross he carries? It's bent over at the top which is a Satanic symbol...
ps. I have found other things left out as well...
The Catholic imaginary god became your imaginary god and now you need to demonize Catholics, so you can have the imaginary god all to yourself.

That's mean.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440475 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
:o)
I've already signed up!
I'm in - are you?
*runs for the All*
Cath me if you can!
;o)
Yes. I am.

:)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#440476 May 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
- you can stop pretending to be a Christian now.
-if you are going to interpret sacred scripture like that, you might want to prove that Christ instructed us to do so.
- can you provide a verse where Christ teaches that the Bible is the sole source and provider of teachings on His Ministry?
- if I'm understanding your mindset correctly... you are taking the NT scriptures away from the Church that gathered, labeled and safeguarded em for 1600 + yrs and designing your own religion based on what you see from your eyes, and ignoring what was actually taught by the Apostles when they ALREADY explained their writings???
- how can you walk with balls the size of watermelons??
There is nothing to "interpret!!!!"

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,

He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty

Since you erroneously believe God is Christ and Christ is God...you are lying every time you pray the Apostle's Creed...
Clay

United States

#440477 May 13, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
Then there were these doctrines added...
1480 AD The Inquisition (of Spain)
1495 AD Papal control of marriage rights
1534 AD Order of Jesuits founded by Loyola
1545 AD Man-made tradition of church made equal to Bible (Council of Trent)
1545 AD Apocryphal books added to Bible (Council of Trent)
1546 AD Justification by human works of merit
1546 AD Mass universally said in Latin (see 600 AD)
1547 AD Confirmation
1560 AD Personal opinions of Pope Pius IV imposed as the official creed
1864 AD Syllabus Errorum [Syllabus of Errors] proclaimed that "Catholic countries" could not tolerate other religions,(no freedom of religion), conscience, separation of church and State condemned, asserted the Pope's temporal authority over all civil rulers (Ratified by Pope Pius IX and Vatican Council) condemned.
1870 AD Infallibility of Pope (Vatican council)
1908 AD All Catholics should be christened into the church
1930 AD Public Schools condemned by Pope Pius XII (see 1864 AD)
1950 AD Sinners prayer, invented by Billy Sunday and made popular by Billy Graham.(Some Catholics now use this)
1950 AD Assumption of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven shortly after her death.(Pope Pius XII)
1954 AD Immaculate conception of Mary proclaimed by Pope Pius XII
1995 AD The use of girls in the traditional altar boy duties
1996 AD Catholics can believe in Evolution (Pope John Paul II)
and so it goes on....
Words can't describe what an idiot you are. I could take the time to refute your whole cult pamphlet. But what for? You're not interested in truth.
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#440478 May 13, 2013
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Just Saying says.........God has gradually revealed Himself to us.
MICHAEL says..........How so?
If Muslims claim Allah has gradually revealed himself to us, would you believe that Just Sayin?
We KNOW how science and learning has gradually revealed itself to us.

So far, no admissible evidence of any gods.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#440479 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe the same supposed mysterious truth was shown to non-human forms of life?
If not ... what is the purpose for their suffering.
There is really no "mysterious truth" about it. Only ignorance of self and knowledge.

I don't know what non-human forms of life might be capable of understanding, so I can't judge their understanding of their environment, or whether they may be capable of cognizance to the degree we have...let alone whether they could or do communicate it.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440480 May 13, 2013
Every soldier of god believes he/she owns the truth.

Now, if only they could stop calling each other liars, that would be comparable to a breath of fresh air.
Clay

United States

#440481 May 13, 2013
Tiger Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did I say I was an authority?
Is the Bible only for scholars such as yourself?
I have studied for over 55 years what the scriptures teach.
If I studied piano for that long, I would be Liberace.
Are you trying to tell us what the Bible says or not??
You conspiracy Christian fanatics are only relevant within your respective compounds.
All you got is age old cult propaganda and slander. You been proven to be full of deceit and you know it.
If your interested in what the Apostles actually taught, then read the writings of their Disciples or early Church fathers.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440482 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is really no "mysterious truth" about it. Only ignorance of self and knowledge.
I don't know what non-human forms of life might be capable of understanding, so I can't judge their understanding of their environment, or whether they may be capable of cognizance to the degree we have...let alone whether they could or do communicate it.
What knowledge do you believe belongs to you that others don't have in their possessions?

And why do believe if there is a divine plan for humans that other animals don't have the same contact as you seem to believe you have with this universal force or whatever term you favor?

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#440484 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
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Hello Pretty Parrot.:) Missed ya... It's hot here today!

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440485 May 13, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
There is really no "mysterious truth" about it. Only ignorance of self and knowledge.
WOW! You are some arrogant!

To claim self-knowledge, is to insinuate that others who don't see it your way, don't HAVE your knowledge.

You don't know your self any more than any other person knows their self, and that in all humans leaves much to be desired.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440486 May 13, 2013
I am reminded of the idea that Jews won't eat pork, and yet, according to an elderly Jew who lived in wretched conditions during Hitler's reign of terror, Jews were eating human flesh.

We aren't so holy as we think. Many of us are just more fortunate than others.

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