Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440255 May 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
I do not comprehend the lack of understanding of Roman Catholics today...
Why would any one think that they could make any offering of their own to add to the sacrifice of God's only begotten Son and make their own contribution to earn God's forgiveness for sins.....
God laid upon Jesus Christ the iniquity of us all when he sacrifice Him on Calvary's cross...
Why do they diminish the sacrifice of Jesus and determine it to be inadequate, and attempt to add their own puny exercises...
~~~~
Some 700 years before the Passions of Christ Isaiah the Messianic prophet wrote
Isa 53:5
But
1.he was wounded for our transgressions,
2.he was bruised for our iniquities:
3.the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and
4.with his stripes we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and
5.the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Isa 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
6. for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Isa 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Isa 53:10
7.Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;
8.he hath put him to grief:
9.when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11
10He shall see of the travail of his soul, and
shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities.
Why cannot you understand THAT.
.===>JESUS PAID IT ALL<===
NO RITUALS, NO HAIL MARY'S
NO RECITATION OF THE ROSARY, NO REVERING OF SAINTS
NO PAPAL RECOGNITION, NO EFFORT ON THEIR PART SAVES
THEM OR NEEDS TO BE ADDED....TO WHAT JESUS HAS ALREADY DONE AT CALVARY TO BE BORN AGAIN...
___
JUST THE SIMPLE ...OBEDIENCE TO GOD'S WORD IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
AS ONE DOES NOT BREATH TILL HE IS BORN PHYSICALLY
ONE DOES NOT PERFORM/DO WORKS TILL HE IS BORN AGAIN SPIRITUALLY..
THE DIFFERENCE IS FOUND IN REPENTING...AND THE LATIN VULGATE DEFINITION OF
DOING PENANCE...
Repenting is confessing and turning away from sin...
receiving Jesus by faith in His name...
doing penance implies works...
I guess we both have questions....huh?

Why doesn't Christianity believe in all of what Jesus taught?

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440256 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
....which sounds like your last post as you stated to me.
Yes June - I am paying attention.
Self.
Learn it, live it, love it. It's not going away.
Neither does human selfishness go away.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440257 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you believe in all of what Jesus taught?
Here you go again. Indicating that you know Jesus was real and was a teacher of the Catholic religion.

Don't you consider that if Jesus was real he would have been preaching ONLY unadulterated Judaism in a synagogue?

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440258 May 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no other God June ,fact is there is only one creator.
Salvation is through Jesus Christ, no other. I confess Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. In Canada we are free to state our beliefs openly.
You were and continue to be brain-washed.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440259 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
ONLY Christian historians ... who in turn have no doubt that they will be saved if only they keep the faith.
False.

The earliest historical mention of Jesus was not offered by Christians.

Again, you deliberately conflate Jesus as an historical figure with Christianity the belief, or you simply don't know the difference. Either way, the more you thrash around on this, the dumber you look.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440260 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
..........as is true with children.
This is your revelation that you insist so strongly upon?
Yes, in general, children are brought up in the faith of their household.
The Nobel committee probably isn't going to come knocking on your door having read that one, Michael.
LOL

your use of specific words to mean specific things is outstanding!!

But I am glad you agree that the religion you do follow, is/was because of your parents.

Unless you are a convert. Are you?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440261 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I recall Gibbons' having been hospitalized years ago.
Apparently, a squirrel bit him on his wild hickory nu.....
Never mind.
*smiles politely*

How can you tel Eull Gibbons in a line-up?

A: He's the one with the "Grape Nuts!"

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440262 May 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
jethro8
I shall keep you in my prayers.
I know.
Oh wonderful.

Since you are intializing prayers, would you like to participate in my "prayer experiment"?

This will be a sure sign to let us all know if you are successful and sincere. AND Jethro is cured - if it works.

Would you like ot participate?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440263 May 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Michael"
Outside the christian ONLY bible can you give me evidence that 12 apostles even existed? Can you show me that the 4 gospels were written by the names attached to them?
Outside the bible can you give me evidence that King Herod attempted to kill baby Jesus and killed dozens of other male infants instead?
Outside the bible can you give me evidence of a miraculous virgin birth?
Outside the bible can you give evidence of the crucifixion?
Outside the bible can you give evidence of miracles performed by this man.
Outside the bible can you give evidence this man Jesus the son of God actually lived.
..........you have only one source of information regarding dozens and hundreds of claims by the bible that no other group or writers says happened.
......thats not good....
**********
You really don't understand the battle between good and evil, do you?
There are countless crosses in America...on churches, on graves, on the roadside where lives have been lost. Our government buildings in D.C. are covered with scripture verses. Our founding fathers had church services in the Capital building; some even preached.
It is nearly impossible to remove all of the 'signs' of Christianity in this nation...but atheists are working HARD and spending millions$ to try to do it. They hope to ERASE the truth. They are already declaring that America is not/was never a Christian nation. But the Bible remains, they haven't been able to erase that. They/you just declare that there is no other proof!
If all the 'proofs' that are in America could be removed, the HEAVENS WILL STILL DECLARE HIS GLORY.
KayMarie
Decided not to leave after all, huh?

I understand.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440264 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
will be
She'll be sainted for keeping her faith through trying times, amongst many other things going in her favor.

Honestly, is this all you have here?

Badmouthing the faith of devout woman of charity to buttress your pathological need for self-validation?

Sad, really.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440265 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
your use of specific words to mean specific things is outstanding!!
But I am glad you agree that the religion you do follow, is/was because of your parents.
Unless you are a convert. Are you?
No. My grandfather was, and my wife is.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440266 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you go again. Indicating that you know Jesus was real and was a teacher of the Catholic religion.
Don't you consider that if Jesus was real he would have been preaching ONLY unadulterated Judaism in a synagogue?
Here you go again-

Assuming that NASL IS an adherent of the Catholic religion.

Had you not preoccupied yourself with dredging the web for, among other things, the instances of VD in dogs, you'd have picked up that NASL isn't Catholic.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440267 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
False.
The earliest historical mention of Jesus was not offered by Christians.
Of course it was. The Catholics simply changes the name Ihcuc in Greek to Jesus and away they went with a new spin on a supposed savior.

>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

CatholicCulture.Org

I.C.
Jesus -- first and last letters of his name in Greek, Ihcuc.

http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/librar ...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440268 May 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
jethro8:
A direct answer is hard. I suppose in our minds we compare Islam of today, to Christianity in the Middle Ages. And there is a certain truth in "conformity and social order" which are shared by all societies.
As Rome fell, and social order/civilization collapsed, the "Name" of Christianity eventually provided a new foundation for the Roman Empire, to which much conflict with the little dictators of their own little realms were encountered.
The question arises, how much responsibility are we putting on God, for our own failures in history?
It is not the nature of Truth to change, but rather our learning curves as individuals and empires is slow to understand. People then have this sort of knee-jerk reaction, action/reaction to the more immediate world in which they find themselves.
Abuses and suffering are not a result of Truth.
Christians(are a people learning), so Christianity shouldn't be condemned for people not living up to being as perfect as God, in this world.
IMO - people living today have more knowledge, are more literate, and have more intellect than those peeps from 2000 years ago.

In essence, I think we have a much better grasp on what is true and what is not.

Christianity has failed to provide the truth.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440269 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
She'll be sainted for keeping her faith through trying times,
YOU WISH!!!

If she was a Muslim, you would believe that she was right for her lack of faith in her religion.

You are totally one-sided in your slant on religion.

Totally self-absorbed.

Since: Sep 09

Houston, Canada

#440270 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
IMO - people living today have more knowledge, are more literate, and have more intellect than those peeps from 2000 years ago.
In essence, I think we have a much better grasp on what is true and what is not.
Christianity has failed to provide the truth.
Most humans are in one or another religion ... bashing other religions as not being based on truth and bragging up their own religion as being the one and only truth.

Humans are as dumb as the ones that lived in caves.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#440271 May 13, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess we both have questions....huh?
Why doesn't Christianity believe in all of what Jesus taught?
What are you talking about?
Religion A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#440272 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold on-you mentioned "meticulous Roma records".
Now, they don't exist. If they don't exist, how then can you claim them to have been "meticulous"?
If there aren't any records, how can you claim with certitude the circumstance of Pilate's handling of Jesus' case?
You can't.
I'm sorry, but your speculation is just that, and you lied to substantiate it.
Nice spin. There is more evidence that those records existed than there is for Jesus.

1: Those records are known to us simply because they are referred to by other ancient Roman and Greek historians, with no religious bias. I'd wager there are more historical, unambiguous references to these records than to Jesus.

2: I never claimed with certitude how a roman governor handled the case of Jesus. I claim with a degree of certitude -- based on historical records of Pilate and other Roman governors -- how they WOULD NOT and NEVER DID handle such cases.

No? Then perhaps you can show us in history where any other Roman Governor "reluctantly" did anything a local mob wanted him to do.

Yes, a degree of speculation, but why would you object to that? Your entire belief system is based on speculation.

I believe my speculation is consistent with historical record and reason. I make no mystical claims.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#440273 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
So if anything is possible, and all those other savior-gods did come to earth once and never came again to save those who had absolute faith in their coming ... is it possible that Jesus will not come either???
Will you entertain THAT thought as being a possibility?
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
If I believe in Jesus and His teachings, I believe that He will come again.
For a fourth attempt to answer, and you didn't, all you could come up with is this?

First off, you don't believe what Jesus stated. And he never stated that he would be returning - only OTHER men have.

Please state the passage that specifically has Jesus stating, "when I come again....."
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440274 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it was. The Catholics simply changes the name Ihcuc in Greek to Jesus and away they went with a new spin on a supposed savior.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
CatholicCulture.Org
I.C.
Jesus -- first and last letters of his name in Greek, Ihcuc.
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/librar ...
So, it IS that you dimply don't know any better?

OK. Have it your way.

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