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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 693160 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dan

Omaha, NE

#440214 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are side-stepping.
It was written that those savior-gods and sons of gods existed ... just as it is written that Jesus existed.
Do you believe it's possible that those other savior-gods and sons of gods were real as you believe Jesus is real. Or do you believe that Jesus is real and all the others were false?
It's a straight forward question.
Anything is possible.

I personally believe in Jesus.

That's all the answer anyone could honestly give.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#440215 May 13, 2013
one more time:Innocent IV was Pope from 1243 to 1254. Certainly the Inquisition represents the darkest of Roman Church history, and it was Innocent IV who approved the use of torture to extract confessions of heresy. He aggressively applied the principle that “the end justifies the means.” It is shocking to learn about the deranged instruments of torture that were used on so many innocent people. One of the most famous people to suffer at the hands of Roman inquisitors was Galileo. The church condemned Galileo for claiming that the earth revolved around the sun.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440216 May 13, 2013
It's safe for me to believe that the old savior gods were not real.

But if I dare touch on the idea that Jesus was and is not real ... the Christians are insulted beyond belief.

Yet they can insult all other religions as false and they see that as a fair game on a level playing field.

Self-indulgence is the name of the religious game ... and it is NOT at all funny.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#440217 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Fictitious saviors never showed up to save humans yet, and there were many conjured in the minds of ancient theologians before the latest kid on the block, Jesus.
These greedy people only think of their selves. They don't think about all the non-human forms of life that suffer each day and night by claw, fang and venom in the quest to survive the struggle on earth.
Humans want MORE and MORE as they DEMAND bliss in a hereafter.
These silly, greedy humans, put excessive energy into fantasies that they USE to please their own emotions.
These silly, greedy humans, put excessive energy into fantasies that they USE to please their own emotions.

That is your opinion of me because I believe in Almighty God.

Well in my opinion your a nut case, your not the first human that tried to get rid of Christians, good luck with that. the Romans tried , the Roman catholic church, and bias people like you.
All down through history, Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against Gods Church.
This battle belongs to God , so I am done talking to you June.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440218 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
It's safe for me to believe that the old savior gods were not real.
But if I dare touch on the idea that Jesus was and is not real ... the Christians are insulted beyond belief.
Yet they can insult all other religions as false and they see that as a fair game on a level playing field.
Self-indulgence is the name of the religious game ... and it is NOT at all funny.
Speaking of indulging one's self-your post here covers that. Setting up and knocking down the straw man.

You certainly may believe that the Christian beliefs RE: Jesus are a myth; you cannot say that Jesus Himself was a myth.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#440219 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you believe in one god, do you also believe that all will be saved ... none excluded???
My guess is you don't believe the Muslims will be saved, as according to your theology, they don't go by the RIGHTEOUS title of Christian.
Silly people.
June VanDerMark:

You walk a tightrope, asking such a question.

You assume that because you do not know, that no one can until after death, and guess I might not believe all will be saved, except a select few.

Your perceptions are based in time, and you ask about eternal judgment. Names and words represent ideas and concepts.

I try not to presume on such a question you ask regarding eternal judgment. And that is the best answer I can give for myself.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#440220 May 13, 2013
heres a nice guy:John XV was Pope from 985 to 996. The Pope's venality and nepotism had made him very unpopular with the citizens, as he split the church's finances among his relatives and was described as "covetous of filthy lucre and corrupt in all his acts."

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#440221 May 13, 2013
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Clay wrote:
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That's what I thought you'd say.
If you were really a Catholic for 40 yrs, the second question would not need to be explained to you. Its recited in the Apostles Creed.
On either of the two questions. Answer Yes or No. That's all.
You are so far out asea, its pathetic!!!!

The Apostle's Creed, which I was taught some 74 years ago, I believed then, and still do today..in part....says:

I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth;
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into Hell; the third day He rose again from the dead;
He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.
Amen.

It plainly says God is not Christ....Christ is not God....which is supported by Scripture...

A. I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,

See that word "and"...See "His only Son".

B. He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty

See "sitteth at the right hand of God"....if. as you say, God and Christ are one, how is it that Christ is sitting at the right hand of God!!!!!!

When my eyes and ears were opened, some 40 years ago, I deleted "the holy Catholic Church" because not all of its teaching are based on Scripture.

And, I deleted "the communion of saints" because: The communion of saints (in Latin, communio sanctorum), when referred to persons, is the spiritual union of the members of the Christian Church, living and the dead, those on earth, in heaven, and, for those who believe in purgatory, those also who are in that state of purification.

There is no purgatory to believe in!!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440222 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I did.
Indication is that it doesn't really possess medicinal qualities.
The best that's said is that use of silver in some endotracheal tubes and catheters provides some degree of protection from infeaction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440223 May 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
You walk a tightrope, asking such a question.
You assume that because you do not know, that no one can until after death, and guess I might not believe all will be saved, except a select few.
Your perceptions are based in time, and you ask about eternal judgment. Names and words represent ideas and concepts.
I try not to presume on such a question you ask regarding eternal judgment. And that is the best answer I can give for myself.
What a load of clap-trap.

You are certain you will be saved by belief in Jesus ... don't you?

That is your judgment concerning eternal judgment.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#440224 May 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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jethro8
I remember Euell Gibbons. "Tastes like wild hickory nuts."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6NT1HNuy3nAXX
that's him and i remember that commercial,thatis hiow i discovered who he was and started reading about him,then i bought his book on edible wild plants and tree barks.it's also how i found out how aspirin is made, from willow tree bark.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440225 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Speaking of indulging one's self-your post here covers that. Setting up and knocking down the straw man.
You certainly may believe that the Christian beliefs RE: Jesus are a myth; you cannot say that Jesus Himself was a myth.
You are quite the side-tracker.

Do you believe that all the other sons of gods that came to earth as saviors were real?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#440226 May 13, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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jethro8
I shall keep you in my prayers.
I know.
thanks i do appreciate it.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440227 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
That's the page I looked at.

Not really a ringing endorsement of a notion that silver has medicinal properties.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#440228 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Thanks for sharing.
I read every word, unlike when people on the forum start quoting scriptures. As soon as I see scriptures, I tune out and go on to the next person posting.
I don't like being preached at from any religious dogmas whatsoever. I had more than enough of that when I was under the spell of religion.
I just tell it like it is,that is part of my history,when i was told that by the lady that always stuck with me,no idea why.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440229 May 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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These silly, greedy humans, put excessive energy into fantasies that they USE to please their own emotions.
That is your opinion of me because I believe in Almighty God.
Well in my opinion your a nut case, your not the first human that tried to get rid of Christians, good luck with that. the Romans tried , the Roman catholic church, and bias people like you.
All down through history, Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against Gods Church.
This battle belongs to God , so I am done talking to you June.
You believe that all the other gods of other religions are not real and your god is real.

THAT is self-indulgence. There is no other way to frame such self-fulfilling prophecies.

You get salvation and all others get the BOOT!

Silly stuff indeed.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#440230 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Joseph Smith wanted a following as did the Catholics who came up with their own flamboyant story of a Jew coming back to earth to save only those of the Catholic faith.
Unbelievable stupidity ... yet people keep the faith IN the stupidity.
No June!! The "stupidity" is your (your own) denial of the TRUTH of TRUE CHURCH HISTORY along with "your own" lack of faith and unbelief in the historical and biblical TRUTH of Our Lords.. One True Apostolic Catholic Church..... Jesus Christ initiate, formed and established by HIMSELF his one and only one "Universal-Catholic" generated by HIS Apostles... It began with the 1st Church of Antioch (Acts 2)and expanded to the Catholic/Christian Churches of Thessalonica, Ephesus, Corinth, Galatia, Collosus, Philippi, and on and on for over 2000 years.....Since the 16th century Reformation, the Catholic Church has left the "half-truth, half-heresy (contradicting) Protestant "Prodigal Son" Reformers
to Luther, Hus, Wycliff, Calvin, Zwingili, Knox and the other 42,000+ inconsistent, conflicting bible only beliefs,(not to forget Joseph Smith). His contributions to the Mormons was to "re-write the bible" inserting his own name in it, beginning with the book of Genesis. All of the other Reformers did "somewhat the same thing" by re-interpreting the bible in order to "fit their own "personal editorialized opinionated (Protestant bible only doctrines). Rewriting the bible, re-interpreting the bible, mis-interpreting Sacred Scripture---ITS ALL THE SAME---it all defines the Protestant "fundies" chaos, contradicting and mass confusion. The difference is that I/we as Catholics "have the TRUTH of the (mass) and the Protestant atheists and agnostics "continue" to have the (confusion).
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440231 May 13, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Anything is possible.
I personally believe in Jesus.
That's all the answer anyone could honestly give.
So if anything is possible, and all those other savior-gods did come to earth once and never came again to save those who had absolute faith in their coming ... is it possible that Jesus will not come either???

Will you entertain THAT thought as being a possibility?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#440232 May 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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You are quite the side-tracker.
Do you believe that all the other sons of gods that came to earth as saviors were real?
Sorry that I'm actually holding your feet to your previous statement of Jesus having been a "myth". I know it's inconvenient for you.

Name a person who you're thinking fo here and we'll see if the person did in fact exist.

We'll look it up together.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#440233 May 13, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
There is no purgatory to believe in!!!!
Augustine invented purgatory to reduce the population of hell. More recently, Charles Hodge and B. B. Warfield have also attempted to lower the population of hell by developing a postmillenial eschatology and by allowing for the automatic salvation of babies who die in infancy. The reasoning appears to be that if the total number of those who are going to be tormented is relatively small, there is no reason to be unduly concerned. Such reasoning hardly resolves the problem of the morality of God’s character. Whether God inflicted unending torments on one million or on ten billion sinners, the fact would remain that God tormented people everlastingly.

http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/books/imm ...

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