Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Dan

Omaha, NE

#439362 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Dan..you can believe me or not when I tell you it happened at Immaculate Conception where I attended years ago. Maybe it doesn't happen now but it did. Deal with it....catholic church is all about money.
What's the "it" that happened?

A surcharge for a wedding, or?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#439363 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Dan..you can believe me or not when I tell you it happened at Immaculate Conception where I attended years ago. Maybe it doesn't happen now but it did. Deal with it....catholic church is all about money.
I recall your having made mention of something but I can't find the post.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#439364 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Dan..you can believe me or not when I tell you it happened at Immaculate Conception where I attended years ago. Maybe it doesn't happen now but it did. Deal with it....catholic church is all about money.
"catholic church all about money".

You'll admit that they DO have expenses well beyond the typical non-Catholic church.

They run schools, they run hospitals, they run charities. They don't pay "ministers of music" or the like. Priests receive a paltry stipend.

I mean, they can't run these things on good intentions.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#439365 May 10, 2013
LTM wrote:
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June no my parents didn't, I was in and out of Orphanages and CAS all my life.
June your one nasty person.
your just spreading your hate all over different forums.
Misery likes company is true I guess.
Sorry to hear about your upbringing. I can't imagine the despair, fear and lack of love you might have experienced. Its obvious you have put that behind you and made your life positive.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#439366 May 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
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What's the "it" that happened?
A surcharge for a wedding, or?
It was a funeral of a friend. I won't say the priest's name but it was Immaculate Conception in Cols, OH (he has retired) said as soon as we get a check we will proceed the the funeral arrangements. What had happened was my friend was so offended, she had the funeral somewhere else.

How bout my family member who also went to Immaculate Conception to receive an annulment...sure you can for $500.

But when you tell catholics these things, you all say yeah right, that naver happened. Well it happened.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#439367 May 10, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Make that four peas in a pod. He knows you, too.
You're the one who brought the snakes!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =nl_8r7WG3g4XX
Regina, I put a snake in a girls bed at camp one year.
She was picking on a girl who was of a different colour and race.
The Young girl spent the better part of 2 weeks at camp where she should have had fun trying to avoid the nasty bigot.
The night I put the snake in her bed I punched her lights out.
The girl had nerve enough to complain to the camp dean, that I treated her very bad and did bad things to her.
Forgetting the treatment that she had inflicted on the girl she abused herself.
That is what you do Regina, so here is a snake down your back.
believe me I would bring the biggest snake I could find.
Go back to the other form you are on and spread your nasty remarks,
and please don't say your a christian again or I will bring some of the comments back here.
Your as nasty as June not much different oh yes you were both raise in the catholic religion.
I though I recognized that religious pagan spirit, in you both.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#439368 May 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
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They run schools, they run hospitals, they run charities. They don't pay "ministers of music" or the like. Priests receive a paltry stipend.
I mean, they can't run these things on good intentions.
That's why they have Summer festivals, to sell alcohol and have gambling. So people with drinking and gambling problems will come and spend money...sweet!! praise God!!

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439369 May 10, 2013
It seems that theologians never had any trouble finding those who would believe they knew truth.
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History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

As one finds elsewhere, the origin myths begin with the account of the cosmogony. The world was created by the celestial Phyva gods, imagined as being heavenly mountains.(We will return later to the religious importance and symbolism of mountains.) Certain of these mountain-gods descended to earth, bringing with them the animals, plants, and probably the first humans.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#439370 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a funeral of a friend. I won't say the priest's name but it was Immaculate Conception in Cols, OH (he has retired) said as soon as we get a check we will proceed the the funeral arrangements. What had happened was my friend was so offended, she had the funeral somewhere else.
How bout my family member who also went to Immaculate Conception to receive an annulment...sure you can for $500.
But when you tell catholics these things, you all say yeah right, that naver happened. Well it happened.
Was the friend a parishioner at the church?

Do you recall what the payment was said to be for?

Annulments do cost money. always have. Some of the work necessary for those gets farmed out to lay people who do it for a living.

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439371 May 10, 2013
Religion is all about copying parts of previous religions ... morphing the dogmas to suit theological desires and only THEN believing the seeker has finally encapsulated absolute truth.
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A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Tibetan religion, just like Hinduism and ancient and Medieval Christianity, presents at its apogee a remarkable synthesis, the result of a long process of assimilation and syncretism.

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439372 May 10, 2013
Wherever there is a theologian feigning knowledge of a hereafter ... THERE you will find blatant arrogance.
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A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Luther’s theology

In a letter of June 1522, Marin Luther wrote:“I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even by the angels. One who does not receive my doctrine cannot come to salvation.”

Having received the revelation that it is the absolute freedom of God the Father which judges, condemns, and saves according to his own decision, Luther could no longer tolerate any other interpretation.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#439373 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
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That's why they have Summer festivals, to sell alcohol and have gambling. So people with drinking and gambling problems will come and spend money...sweet!! praise God!!
Everyone who drinks and gambles is a problem drinker or gambler?

Yes, Catholic parishes raise money at fish frys during Lent, where they serve fried food and beer, and sell raffle tickets. I get served at mine by the priest, with whom I go outside for a smoke and a beer during his break.

They raise money with Bingo, and at the aforementioned parish festivals.

The use the money to run their excellent schools, athletic programs for area youth and a multitude of charitable enterprises.

Not as exciting as the non-Catholics in my town, who use their money to rent out the arena and print up yard signs for the annual Easter service and pay music ministers, parking ministers, run TV ads, send people to China on mission trips and the like. It's always more fun to pour the money back into your own coffers, I'll agree.

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439374 May 10, 2013
Without Judaism having first existed, there would be NO Catholic or Protestant churches and no Muslim mosques.

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439376 May 10, 2013
Columbus was another arrogant buffoon who was certain he was chosen for a mission by GOD!
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A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

“God had shown his hand.” Columbus considered his voyage as “an evident miracle.” For it was not just a matter of the discovery of the “Indies,” but of a transfigured world.“It is I whom God had chosen for his messenger, showing me on which side were to be found the new heaven and new earth of which the Lord had spoken through the mouth of Saint John in his Apocalypse, and of which Isaiah had made previous mention.” According to Columbus’s calculations, the end of the world was due to occur in 155 years.
Clay

Jersey City, NJ

#439377 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
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That's why they have Summer festivals, to sell alcohol and have gambling. So people with drinking and gambling problems will come and spend money...sweet!! praise God!!
What's that got to do with Catholicism? Who cares what beef you've got with the local parish and their fundraising efforts.
You can't refute the Catholic Church's teachings, so you trash the Catholics who play bingo and have a couple beers??
real nice buddy.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#439378 May 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Everyone who drinks and gambles is a problem drinker or gambler?
Yes, Catholic parishes raise money at fish frys during Lent, where they serve fried food and beer, and sell raffle tickets. I get served at mine by the priest, with whom I go outside for a smoke and a beer during his break.
No I said people who do have drinking and gambling problems can go to the catholic festivals. Catholics will take their money.

The Bible says the the christian's body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. Why do you fill it with cigarettes and booze?

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439379 May 10, 2013
A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Let us add that, following their conversion, even where it was superficial, the numerous ethnic religious traditions, as well as the local mythologies, were homologized: that is, they were integrated into the same “sacred history” and expressed in the same language, as that of the Christian faith and mythology. Thus, for example, the memory of storm gods has survived in the legends of Saint Elijah; a great number of heroic dragon slayers have been assimilated by Saint George; certain myths and cults relating to goddesses have been integrated into the religious lore of the Virgin Mary. In sum, the innumerable forms and variants of the pagan heritage have been articulated in the same outwardly Christianized mythico-ritual corpus.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#439380 May 10, 2013
chuck wrote:
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No I said people who do have drinking and gambling problems can go to the catholic festivals. Catholics will take their money.
The Bible says the the christian's body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. Why do you fill it with cigarettes and booze?
People with drinking and gambling problems put money in the plate at your place. Not sure what you'd prescribe here.

If Jesus made water into wine to keep a wedding reception going and serve wine at His going away dinner, then it's OK for me to have a drink.

As for my smoking, it makes me look cool, of course.

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#439381 May 10, 2013
Catholics don't like to be reminded that without the Pagan dogmas that morphed into Catholicism, that Catholicism would be non-existent.

Protestants also don't like to be reminded that without Catholicism and all the other dogmas from other religions that came before ... Protestantism would also be non-existent.

The same goes for the Muslims.

Religion is all about magic fantasies that morph and pass down from one culture to the next ... many devout believers being certain that their myths are the ones based on the one and only truth.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#439382 May 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Yes, Catholic parishes raise money at fish frys during Lent, where they serve fried food and beer, and sell raffle tickets. I get served at mine by the priest, with whom I go outside for a smoke and a beer during his break.
We have events at our church as well. I guess I'd have to say the difference is we don't charge for anything. Food, games, etc..and we don't serve booze or have gambling. We don't want to be a stumbling block for those who may have a drinking or ganbling problem.

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