Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Human Being

Kinder, LA

#439281 May 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I suspect that all Jews believe they are the only TRUE Jews.
They took each other to court over the issue, so just as do you, they take their religion as though they all know the only truth.
June VanDerMark:

Christians are grafted onto the Jew.

Legalism may be an inherited tradition for some, but not all.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#439282 May 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i don't feel bad at all,you mislead me,most likely on purpose,i should of checked? you a religious person, your suppose to be honest and truthful and i fell for it,you did mislead me, Dan didn't he posted the whole passage, to bad i missed it at the time,it would of changed things.
The only way it would have made any difference posting the whole verse would have been if he said, "wait...ignore my last sentence, I'm now saying DON'T confess your sins to one another..."

Go to bed jethro, and get something to drink with the crow you're eating.
Human Being

Kinder, LA

#439283 May 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You converse as does a child. I suggest you study history from outside of your church.
June VanDerMark:

I came late in life to God.

I was socially indoctrinated, and had to over come the prejudices, and ideals of my time, by God's guidance.

Since history is so fluid, I find little need of chasing down the river to recapture it, and make it conform to my thinking.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#439284 May 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>My son is getting married and our parish is charging $450 for use of the church and $200 for the wedding coordinator. Why do parishes charge for weddings?Charles Grondin; Jul 12,'12 at 8:16 pm.high school of baltimore,Tuition (fixed through Senior year):
Class of 2017-$12,300
Class of 2016 -$11,300
Classes of 2015 & 2014-$11,000
the Roman Catholics charged fees ... charge a fee for presiding over the sacraments (baptism, holy communion, confirmation, reconciliation [confession ...
www.saint-augustine.org/_aug02/ef0802a.htm...... 'm surprised they don't have pay toilets in every church.
This is BS, Jethro. I don't know what this is and don't care.

You stated that there was a "church fee" for partaking of the Sacrament of Reconciliation (confession). Now.....where is the link to an approved Church source that states one pays such a "fee"???? If you don't come up with one in the next few minutes, I expect a full apology for this and every other lie you've ever told about the Catholic Church.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#439285 May 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>My son is getting married and our parish is charging $450 for use of the church and $200 for the wedding coordinator. Why do parishes charge for weddings?Charles Grondin; Jul 12,'12 at 8:16 pm.high school of baltimore,Tuition (fixed through Senior year):
Class of 2017-$12,300
Class of 2016 -$11,300
Classes of 2015 & 2014-$11,000
the Roman Catholics charged fees ... charge a fee for presiding over the sacraments (baptism, holy communion, confirmation, reconciliation [confession ...
www.saint-augustine.org/_aug02/ef0802a.htm...... 'm surprised they don't have pay toilets in every church.
There are no fees for confession. In ANY Catholic Church. Ever. Period.

This link, if I'm not mistaken, is for St. Augustine on the lake EPISCOPAL church in Santa Monica, CA. It's protestant, not Catholic.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#439286 May 9, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
There are no fees for confession. In ANY Catholic Church. Ever. Period.
This link, if I'm not mistaken, is for St. Augustine on the lake EPISCOPAL church in Santa Monica, CA. It's protestant, not Catholic.
Oh, good Lord!!!

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#439287 May 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know if i should use the word "friend" but there are people on here that have different views than i do,but we get along when posting our differences,and also they always wish me well with my battle with cancer,not sure if you know i had it? but i do,since 2006,i had diverticulitis that wouldn't go away so they decided to operate,when they did a ct scan i got a call as soon as i got home and was told to get back to the hospital asap,I did and they told me the scan shows a whole in my large intestine,they operated and found a large tumor that unfortunately broke open,i've had 3 tumors so far the second was removed by operation,the 3rd was killed by radiation,but it is attached to my kidney so it can not be removed, i have a stent in my kidney because the tumor stops it from emptying out completely,i get operated on every 3 months to replace the stent because it gets calcifies an clogs up,i consider myself lucky i should of died a little over a year ago,but they have come up with a chemo treatment that is pill form, i take it 10 days stop,get blood test,then go back on it,it has been a success for me plus the fact that i refuse to let this kill me,i am determined to die an old man like it should be.getting back to the point even though we may share the same views here an there,i just like how you handle yourself when unnecessarily attacked with meanness because you disagree with a post,you stay cool and reply in a friendly type manner,no hostility.
God Bless you.You have remained in hermi and my prayers....

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#439288 May 9, 2013
Clay wrote:

Why do born agains bother confessing their sins, when they are already forgiven? You can't lose your salvation, right? Is it a symbolic gesture for you to ask for forgiveness? How can God forgive a sin when its already washed away

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Jesus was tempted by the lawyers of His day. They brought an adulterous woman, who, by the law, was sentenced to be stoned. He said to her, "Neither do I condemn thee. Go, and SIN NO MORE".

When He forgives us, we are made clean...but we are yet in the flesh; subject to temptation.

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU, BUT YOU ARE WASHED, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

These things are passed away; we have become a new creation in Christ. We should never be caught up in such behavior again. But we are still 'in the flesh', and sometimes fail to live in love...or walk in the spirit.

Acting in anger, or impatience, or other such works of the flesh is sin (we can overcome these if we depend on His strength/grace). These things are sin, and are to be overcome. Gal.5:19-21.

If we fall into such ugliness, we need to confess (own up to) our sin, and believe God to deliver us. He promises to do so if we repent/confess.

KayMarie

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#439290 May 9, 2013
103
043

Whadda bout it Dan....Ah am interested in your reply!!!!!

Quote: So, tell me.....what is the source of your "wisdom"????!!!

Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
One more time.
As He promised, Jesus forgives the sin.
As He promised in Matt. 16:19, the priest gives absolution and the penalty for the sin is removed.

You don't believe your own NABre pope approved Bible!!!! So, tell me.....what is the source of your "wisdom"????!!!

Quote: Whatever you bind…loosed in heaven: there are many instances in rabbinic literature of the binding-loosing imagery. Of the several meanings given there to the metaphor, two are of special importance here: the giving of authoritative teaching, and the lifting or imposing of the ban of excommunication. It is disputed whether the image of the keys and that of binding and loosing are different metaphors meaning the same thing. In any case, the promise of the keys is given to Peter alone.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#439291 May 9, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>hi L T sorry to hear about the flooding,i know what's that like,no g/f still has dog and that is how i want it because of my situation,what i want is to be able to see her and take her places like i use to,i'm getting nowhere,but can't worry about it,i can get a free lawyer through the cancer center if i choose to go that course,i did talk to one and a judge will just say one has to buy the other out of ownership,so i'm not sure what i'm going to do,and thanks i'm glad i am cancer free still and will be,I refuse to let this horrible disease kill me,i'm dying of old age.How are you doing? you feeling any better?
Jethro I know you love that dog and I am sorry, how this turned out for you.
Maybe you should think of getting a new puppy it would be cheaper, and would be a new start for you.
I am doing fine Jethro, still fighting the battle of the bulge, I have no will power. If I didn't exercise I would weigh a ton. LOL
I got a new exercise machine, I love it its like rowing a boat, and lifting weights all at the same time.
I am up to 25 reps at a time now, I feel so good Jethro but got to remind myself that I am nearly 70.
I am not suppose to have muscles with ripples LOL

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#439292 May 9, 2013
who="Clay"
crank up that Christian music and wave your arms about dear. You're 'saved' no matter what you do. No need to be sorry because there are no consequences if you are or not. To God, it doesn't matter, you got off drugs and did an alter call. You're all set to take on the Holy Catholic Church!!
lol.
**********

Don't be too hard on her, Clay. When you know the joy of sins forgiven, you will be quick to 'lift up holy hands' and 'offer the sacrifice of praise'.

Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And IF any man sin, we have an advocate (intercessor) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

We are not to sin willfully, but the weakness of the flesh (our feelings and our lack of knowledge) means that we still need a Savior.

Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken(repentant) spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Psa 103:13 Like as a father pities his children, so the LORD pities them that fear him.
Psa 103:14 For he knows our frame; he remembers that we are dust.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#439293 May 9, 2013
who="Michael"......I t may surprise Christians to learn that there are no contemporary historical documents for 'Jesus, the Christ'. The writings of Paul are not contemporary accounts: they do not appear until years after the purported time of Jesus and they include a concession that Paul never actually met Jesus. The Gospels come much later (as evidenced by the fact that Paul never cites them) and there is good reason that all four of the surviving, accepted Gospels are based on Mark, which in turn is likely to be a form of 'MidrasH.
sorry for the bad news!

**********

Supposed History, as it is taught to us today, confuses people. They tell us that N.T. scriptures were written 100 years or more after Jesus died.

LOL We know that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and other writers certainly didn't write AFTER THEY DIED. Paul asked that Timothy bring the scrolls and cloak that he left at Troas when he came to visit him in his confinement. He was writing IN THE PRESENT TENSE. If you know your English language, you know that Paul was writing AT THE TIME HE WAS CONFINED...not 'years later.

Paul did meet Jesus shortly after the resurrection, even as many are meeting Him today in visions.(Many Muslims are finding Him.)
And even as I met Him in 1947.(No, I am not crazy...nor was I dreaming. I was very much awake. In fact, I met Him in about 1937, when I had a vision of heaven. I was dying from rheumatic fever. My mother and our doctor were by my side, and they prayed for me.

He IS alive, you know...

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#439294 May 9, 2013
who="Michael"....... When ancient writers tell us that in general ancient people believed in eternal life, with the good going to the Elysian Fields and the not so good going to Hades, we understand that as a myth.
1,000 years later along comes Jesus and the NEW stories of eternal salvation.(lol)
All told centuries before by other mythical gods.
UNBELIEVABLE!....but true.

**********

Every man knows that GOD IS. It is not strange that those who do not know the Truth, attempt to 'explain Him', and get things wrong...very wrong. This is why God 'cut out' another nation (Israel) for the purpose of revealing Himself to mankind. He sent Jesus to further clarify His love for mankind.

Jer 29:10 For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
Jer 29:11 FOR I KNOW THE THOUGHTS THAT I THINK TOWARD YOU, saith the LORD, THOUGHTS OF PEACE, AND NOT OF EVIL, to give you an expected end.
Jer 29:12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
Jer 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
Jer 29:14 And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.

He is not the monster who is looking for reasons to punish us. He is a loving Father. That is the picture that has been drawn...even for us, but I've learned that it is not a true picture.

KayMarie
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#439295 May 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you desperate to convince me, or your self?
I knew there was a God from the time I was 3 June.
Its the only thing that makes total sense to me.
Your the desperate one June, I have hope you have nothing.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#439296 May 9, 2013
who="jethro8" My son is getting married and our parish is charging $450 for use of the church and $200 for the wedding coordinator. Why do parishes charge for weddings?Charles Grondin; Jul 12,'12 at 8:16 pm.high school of baltimore,Tuition (fixed through Senior year):
Class of 2017-$12,300
Class of 2016 -$11,300
Classes of 2015 & 2014-$11,000
the Roman Catholics charged fees ... charge a fee for presiding over the sacraments (baptism, holy communion, confirmation, reconciliation [confession ...
www.saint-augustine.org/_aug02/ef0802a.htm...... 'm surprised they don't have pay toilets in every church.

**********

A relative lost a brother some years ago. The CC priest wanted $700 to do the funeral...just the sermon.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#439297 May 9, 2013
who=" Anthony MN"
The only way it would have made any difference posting the whole verse would have been if he said, "wait...ignore my last sentence, I'm now saying DON'T confess your sins to one another..."
Go to bed jethro, and get something to drink with the crow you're eating.

**********
Have you ever read I Cor. 13?

KM
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#439298 May 9, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="jethro8" My son is getting married and our parish is charging $450 for use of the church and $200 for the wedding coordinator. Why do parishes charge for weddings?Charles Grondin; Jul 12,'12 at 8:16 pm.high school of baltimore,Tuition (fixed through Senior year):
Class of 2017-$12,300
Class of 2016 -$11,300
Classes of 2015 & 2014-$11,000
the Roman Catholics charged fees ... charge a fee for presiding over the sacraments (baptism, holy communion, confirmation, reconciliation [confession ...
www.saint-augustine.org/_aug02/ef0802a.htm...... 'm surprised they don't have pay toilets in every church.
**********
A relative lost a brother some years ago. The CC priest wanted $700 to do the funeral...just the sermon.
KayMarie
Have you ever read 1 Cor. 13?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#439299 May 9, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you state that it doesn't matter, when you know full well that you are determined to make your religion the only one "believe-able" to all other humans of planet earth?
The fact is that Catholic Church "has,IS and will continue to be" the ONLY ONE TRUE Apostolic Church, historically proven, verified and authenticated confirmed by Apologistic Church historian authors and writers by both Catholic and Protestant, over and over and over again, as it has been for over 2000 years.......... Like I said. "it makes no difference" to me or to any of the over 1.168 billion Catholics around the world, as you whether or not you chose to accept the "historical and biblical TRUTH of the Catholic Church or not!!....... We, as Catholics, ALL know it to be Jesus Christs One True Church---- without a doubt and if you chose not to believe it---well then it is "your loss"...... It is you June, along with the other "heretical and beligerent" Protestants, atheists and agnostics buffoons that keep "spinning their wheels" with the "same old" judgemental, condemning and antagonistic anti-catholic editorialized rhetoric as you and others continue to deceive yourselves while attempting to deceive others with your "fictitious (silliness).
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#439300 May 9, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="jethro8" My son is getting married and our parish is charging $450 for use of the church and $200 for the wedding coordinator. Why do parishes charge for weddings?Charles Grondin; Jul 12,'12 at 8:16 pm.high school of baltimore,Tuition (fixed through Senior year):
Class of 2017-$12,300
Class of 2016 -$11,300
Classes of 2015 & 2014-$11,000
the Roman Catholics charged fees ... charge a fee for presiding over the sacraments (baptism, holy communion, confirmation, reconciliation [confession ...
www.saint-augustine.org/_aug02/ef0802a.htm...... 'm surprised they don't have pay toilets in every church.
**********
A relative lost a brother some years ago. The CC priest wanted $700 to do the funeral...just the sermon.
KayMarie
How much does Benny Hinn get for his phony healings? Lol.

The Church doesn't charge a dime for a funeral mass. At my mothers funeral mass we gave an voluntary offering of $100 for incidental expenses.

You lack charity Kay.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#439301 May 9, 2013
I watched a program concerning exorcisms. The moderator claimed that the practice is becoming more and more popular in some of the Protestant churches.

One of the therapists commenting on the issue stated that it probably has a great placebo effect on those who put trust in it, in that they don't have to take responsibility for harm they have caused to others, as blaming the devil relieves them of responsibility for their own actions. And added to that, if they believe the demons are then removed by the exorcist, it has all around benefits for the believers.

Maybe the therapist was right.

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