Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dan

Omaha, NE

#438802 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i can ask you the same thing,the bible is infallible so the church says,so which passage is correct? Timmy or Jim? which passage came first? are they both correct? one contradicts the other,so how can they both be right?
I wasn't playing "dueling Bible verses", you were.

The Church teaches to confess our sins to a priest to receive God's grace and forgiveness.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438803 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
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No, I know what your talking about, we went to couples theropy, we confessed many sins and received much healing through prayer.
you confessed to both your partner and to Jesus/god? or just to your partner?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438804 May 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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In Canada.
you have pictures? love to see them?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438805 May 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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We only get mean with rubes like you who don't have a clue what you're talking about while proceeding to trash everything we hold sacred.
at least i know the difference between the truth and B.S. when i read it, and you my friend are being fed bull cookies every Sunday,that is if you go to church every Sunday.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438806 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>The forgiveness of sin by God is never hinged in Scripture on confession to one another. The tax collector went away justified simply by asking God to be merciful to him (Luke 18:9-14). The thief on the cross went to heaven though he never confessed to those whom he had wronged. Though the forgiveness of God is sometimes stated to be dependent on whether we are willing to forgive another (see Matthew 6:14-15;18:21-35), it is never stated to be dependent on the confession of our own sins to others. God's forgiveness is given when we confess to Him. Luke 17:3-4, Jesus tells us that when a brother sins against us, we should rebuke him, and if he repents we are to forgive him. The repentance here at least implies confession. The prodigal son when he returned home said to his father: "I have sinned against heaven and in your sight" (Luke 15:21).(Again, notice, the confession is not that "I have squandered your wealth on prostitutes." The confession is not in the details, but in the acknowledgment of the sin.) In Numbers 5:6-8, the LORD gave command that those who sin shall confess the sin and make restitution to the one whom he has wronged. While this passage does not explicitly state to whom the confession is to be made, the implication is that the confession should be both to God and to the person wronged. In each of these situations, there is a wrong against the person, the person knows that he has been wronged, and the confession serves to seek the restoration of relationship and community.
It is all through Leviticus that the people are to go to the priest for atonement and forgiveness.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438807 May 8, 2013
Jesus told us to love one another (John 13:34-35). John tells us that the one who loves knows God (1 John 4:7). Paul tells us that love fulfills the law (Romans 13:8; Galatians 5:13). Scripture also tells us that love covers a multitude of sins (Proverbs 10:12; 1 Peter 4:8). Those who love will not seek to hear the details of the sins of others, and those who love will not seek to hurt others with the details of their sins.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438808 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>sorry but i see nothing that styates it's ok to confess to anyone else but jesus and be relieved of that sin.if you wrong someone and confess to them,that is a different story,but you would you not have to confess to god/jesus also to absolved of that sin??
Are you saying that Catholics don't confess sins to God? Catholics know that God is there with them in the confessional and hears the confession and forgives the sin. The confession is to God in the presence of the priest.
You know: "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I am in their midst"?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#438809 May 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Michael"
According to your bible a man named Jesus died because a small group of people were given a choice. Jesus or Barabas. 50/50....the crowd chose Jesus (as the story goes)
Nothing to do with dying for our sins. A crowd determined this mans fate because he pissed off his own religious leaders. Period.
If the crowd screamed Barabas instead, how would christianity have ever started? A tiny crowd determined who lived and who died. No one else.......(according to the bible)
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Sorry, Michael. Moses and Elijah appeared on the Mt. of Transfiguration, and briefed Jesus about what He would suffer the following week. David, in the Psalms, and Isaiah both clearly described what would happen to Jesus...and why.
As scripture verifies, some unpleasant things only showed the depravity of man...but, as Joseph told his brothers..."you meant it for evil, but God USED IT FOR GOOD."
Jesus instructed the disciples to do things (take swords) or pointed out something that happened, and said that,'it was SO THAT the scripture might be fulfilled.'
Jesus even died for the sins of those who chose Barabbas that day.
KayMarie
Kay Marie says......Sorry, Michael. Moses and Elijah appeared on the Mt. of Transfiguration,....and briefed Jesus about what He would suffer the following week.

Michael says.... If you believe Jesus is God why would anyone have to inform God Jesus about anything? Don't you believe God knows all?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438810 May 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Well, Jesus was right in front of the tax collector. Ditto for the thief.
James writes after the Resurrection.
Numbers 5: which you quoted buttresses, rather than refutes, Catholic belief and practice. Confession is a public act (you walk into the confessional publicly) and you seek forgiveness for transgressions against Him and your neighbor, restoring your relationship with both.
the problem here is you believe what the catholic church teaches,and it is meaningless,there is nothing in the scriptures that gives credence to anything in the catechism of the church.the church without question is of pagan/christian origin. Jesus would not build a church of that nature.would he? of course not,and would he place it in a country that conquered his people and killed and tortured them,and stole their riches?they even stole a christian church and converted it to a catholic church with no divine authority. you belong to a church of thieves and perverts,as i repeat myself.their own history verifies MY BELIEFS.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438811 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Are you saying that Catholics don't confess sins to God? Catholics know that God is there with them in the confessional and hears the confession and forgives the sin. The confession is to God in the presence of the priest.
You know: "where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I am in their midst"?
how do you know? does god speak to you? how else would you know,the only person hearing your sin is the priest in the other closet,you can't prove other wise.show me in scripture that god is with you in the confessional?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438812 May 8, 2013
gotta go,may be back or i'll see you in the morning.have a good night people

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438813 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>man needs hobbies the lack of them caused wars to pass the time,i see no other reason for them,and your wrong as to why i like you,i like the fact you are honest in your posts no matter if i agree or not,there are a few people on here that i admire for their stand on their beliefs that do not agree with mine,but we get along fine,there is no comfort zone feeling here,i just like your style of dealing with people when they condemn your beliefs,you stay cool under fire.
Thank you. I accept your explanation.

I don't make "friends" on forums ... because I want to be true to only my own ways of perceiving ... and as my history proves, since I came on the forum, I changed from being under the spell of theological dogmas, to getting out from under their spells, to in turn do my own thinking. And I don't believe I am any the worse off for it.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438814 May 8, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Catholics know that God is there with them in the confessional and hears the confession and forgives the sin.
They don't know that. They just believe it.

The idea that Jesus' Jewish father is trapped by Catholic theologians in Catholic confessionals brings quite a picture to my mind.

The rabbis in the synagogues must be worried sick, wondering what on earth happened to the god that used to only favor them.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438815 May 8, 2013
justforCatholics.org

The Catechism of the Catholic Church admits that private confession first came on the scene in the seventh century:

“Over the centuries the concrete form in which the Church has exercised this power received from the Lord has varied considerably. During the first centuries the reconciliation of Christians who had committed particularly grave sins after their Baptism (for example, idolatry, murder, or adultery) was tied to a very rigorous discipline, according to which penitents had to do public penance for their sins, often for years, before receiving reconciliation. To this ‘order of penitents’(which concerned only certain grave sins), one was only rarely admitted and in certain regions only once in a lifetime. During the seventh century Irish missionaries, inspired by the Eastern monastic tradition, took to continental Europe the ‘private’ practice of penance, which does not require public and prolonged completion of penitential works before reconciliation with the Church. From that time on, the sacrament has been performed in secret between penitent and priest. This new practice envisioned the possibility of repetition and so opened the way to a regular frequenting of this sacrament. It allowed the forgiveness of grave sins and venial sins to be integrated into one sacramental celebration. In its main lines this is the form of penance that the Church has practiced down to our day”(Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1447).

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438816 May 8, 2013
And so this is why the priest was bound to the seal of the confession when he protected a guilty man while another man rotted in prison for a murder he did not commit.

It's quite the system. No wonder the members used it to try to find some relief for the crimes they committed again and again and again.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#438817 May 8, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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One died in her crib and one died from suicide.
Sorry to hear that. Not sure how someone could accuse you of murder.
marge

Ames, IA

#438818 May 8, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>you confessed to both your partner and to Jesus/god? or just to your partner?
Yes both, and the healing came through Jesus not the minister to be clear.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438819 May 8, 2013
If I harm my neighbor I believe I owe my neighbor a direct apology.

I believe it would be an insult to my neighbor to go to church and beg forgiveness from an outside source.

Even if all that nonsense of begging forgiveness from a god was true ... I wouldn't want an intermediary doing what I should be doing.

Asking forgiveness for those to whom I caused harm is MY job, and I've done it many times all on my own.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438820 May 8, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Sorry to hear that. Not sure how someone could accuse you of murder.
Thank you. She was furious at me for daring to go where she did not want me to go ... which was to debate the value or lack thereof of her religious beliefs.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438821 May 8, 2013
marge wrote:
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Yes both, and the healing came through Jesus not the minister to be clear.
I suggest you stop using the fictional Jesus as your disinfectant.

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