Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438364 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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When you are asking God for forgiveness, do you ever feel like maybe you weren't really sorry enough and maybe not really forgiven?
I'm scared to ask but what does this have to do with confessing to a sinner...I'm mean a priest?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438365 May 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Well, now that you HAVE seen it, do you still stand behind the "scholarship" presented that you have endorsed?
what i posted was basically the same story as to what was in the documentory on the t.v. so yes i believe it,there is also another story that came out in the L.A. times awhile back about the very same subject.the church condemned it publicly and profitted from it privately jusrt like they do everything else,why do you think everything the vatican does is behind closed doors,they want YOU to follow gods word and pay them to hear the so called truth,BUT! they do not follow their own teachings,real or their made up doctrine.there is NOTHING that connects the church to the scriptures,it's only in the vatican councils mind.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438366 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I thought you said you went to confession as a catholic? You should already know the answer to this?
So what's the answer?

If he doesn't what changed and how?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#438367 May 7, 2013
who="chuck"
It seems too easy to understand doesn't it.
However...if you want to control folks like catholics, you tell them from a young age you have to confess to a priest....it worked!

**********

All they have to do is threaten excommunication...

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438368 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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If you want to object to "theology" with me, please stick to Catholic theology which has as it's foundation that Jesus is God.
I have ... many times ... but you are so indoctrinated you ignore everything but what the Catholic theologians planted in your fantasies as truth.

It's the nature of those in religious cults who are certain their way is the one and only way to believe.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438369 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Actually, I do believe that a Muslim theologian received messages. But I'm not sure about "from the sky" part.
My opinion is that religion is all based on the built in human need to connect with the Creator and have a relationship with Him the way He designed us.
All the world's religions spring from this. Some groups coming closer than others to having a relationship with Creator as He designed. Key phrase: "as He designed"
The exception is atheism, perhaps, which is in fact a religion.
So do you believe that the information the Muslims received was based on truth ... or lies?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#438370 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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That would be refreshing. Let see if you can swallow your pride long enough to say something nice about the CC for once, even if it's not true. Technically, you'd still be lying about her, so it shouldn't be too difficult.
your right it is hard to say anything nice about the church,when they hide their riches and their atrocities towards men,they are suppose to be there for the people and they are not,they only care about money,check their portfolio,you'll be amazed at what they own.they are the worlds richest conglomerate,yet thousands a day die of starvation and disease,and the church does nothing to financially help people out,not even to educate them to better themselves and their country.unless they start offering men a good payday to become a priest the church won't be around much longer,the priesthood is getting smaller each year,By DAVID GONZALEZ
Published: April 15, 2008 new york times.
The banners hanging in the main corridor of St. Joseph’s Seminary in Yonkers declare,“Through Faith We Grow.” The class portraits that line that very same corridor tell the opposite tale. Half a century after the halcyon days when several hundred men at a time studied to be ordained as priests for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York, only 22 are enrolled. Even more alarming to Catholics, although six men expect to be ordained in May, none are entering the first-year theology program. While seminary officials attribute the sudden drop to extra preparatory course requirements that went into effect this year, it is nonetheless a jarring development.

“You do what you can, as well as you can, for as long as you can, and hope it works,” said Bishop Gerald Walsh, the seminary’s rector.“I’d be optimistic if we had enough clergy present for young people and willing to talk to them.”

I wonder how small it is now?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438371 May 7, 2013
Muslims are in conflict with each other as are Christians in conflict with each other.

They all keep preaching that their way is the only way to learn the truth ... and they don't ever seem to question why they can't get along?

It's a fool's game of ego, and they all play it to a T.
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438372 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
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I'm scared to ask but what does this have to do with confessing to a sinner...I'm mean a priest?
Well, I will bet that after you confessed your sins directly to God, there have been times when you didn't feel that you were sorry enough for them and maybe therefore God didn't forgive you.
You are supposed to be sorry for them to be forgiven, right? Or is that not a requirement?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#438373 May 7, 2013
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chuck wrote:
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I did as a catholic. Then I started reading scripture and because of Christ's sacrifice on the cross, I can bypass the catholic priest and go right to God.
I am apart of the priesthood so why would I go to a priest?
Because da pope said so!!!!! He has the divine wisdom and power to correct God!!!!!

God's Word says there is one mediator between man and God...that being Jesus Christ....the Son of God..

The pope said...tain't so!!!...there is the priest in the box, Mary, then Christ....that makes three (3)!!!!!!

Logic says with three mediators they have "a better shot"!!!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438374 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
All they have to do is threaten excommunication...
KayMarie
NAHHH ... those days are all but gone.

Women of the Catholic faith have abortions and now take therapy after the abortions through "project Rachel" approved of by the pope. The hierarchy gave up on that silly idea of excommunication for those women.

Catholics now know that they can be Catholic, break the rules of the hierarchy and the pope's hands are literally tied. He can't frighten them or bully them as did the popes in earlier times. Laws of the land won't allow him to burn "sinners" at the stake, or put them to death for being homosexual, etc.

It took all the joy out of popery.

sarcasm intended.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438375 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I will bet that after you confessed your sins directly to God, there have been times when you didn't feel that you were sorry enough for them and maybe therefore God didn't forgive you.
You are supposed to be sorry for them to be forgiven, right? Or is that not a requirement?
again...what does this have to do with confessing to a priest?
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438376 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I have ... many times ... but you are so indoctrinated you ignore everything but what the Catholic theologians planted in your fantasies as truth.
It's the nature of those in religious cults who are certain their way is the one and only way to believe.
I have not always been Catholic. I arrived after many years as southern baptist and over a decade of being an agnostic.

You haven't posted anything accurately Catholic that I have seen except when you posted the Apostle's creed. I do not wish to debate "theology" as nonsensical as you have posted. Your ideas conflict with one another and you seem to like it that way. I don't feel like chasing shadows.
:)
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#438377 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="chuck"
It seems too easy to understand doesn't it.
However...if you want to control folks like catholics, you tell them from a young age you have to confess to a priest....it worked!
**********
All they have to do is threaten excommunication...
KayMarie
No, dear. All you have to do is read the Bible that we gave you and obey the commands of Jesus, humbling yourselves in the face of the faith as set forth by the Apostles and the succession of His authority through the church He founded, the Catholic Church, thereby relinquishing your mitres and your paper-papacies.

"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."

Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438378 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
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So what's the answer?
If he doesn't what changed and how?
The priest does not bring a sin offering during confession unless you want to count his prayers he offers up for us as he waits for the next confession and the time he has sacrificed in order to minister this Sacrament to the people.
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438379 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So do you believe that the information the Muslims received was based on truth ... or lies?
Part truth, part lies.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#438380 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
NAHHH ... those days are all but gone.
Women of the Catholic faith have abortions and now take therapy after the abortions through "project Rachel" approved of by the pope. The hierarchy gave up on that silly idea of excommunication for those women.
Catholics now know that they can be Catholic, break the rules of the hierarchy and the pope's hands are literally tied. He can't frighten them or bully them as did the popes in earlier times. Laws of the land won't allow him to burn "sinners" at the stake, or put them to death for being homosexual, etc.
It took all the joy out of popery.
sarcasm intended.
Actually, anyone who has an abortion, helps someone have an abortion, or performs an abortion is automatically excommunicated.

You should find out what the Church really teaches before posting misinformation on a public forum.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438381 May 7, 2013
Regina wrote:
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"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."
where is the word confession in the text?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438382 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Why are you confessing your sins to me if this verse is meant to confess only to God?
No Kay, we are to confess our sins to one another and to God. He does forgive us, but as St. James says it's not strictly a private confession to God alone.
And you obviously don't know anything about the Sacrament of Confession. If I were to steal from someone, part of my absolution and penance would involve returning the money and asking forgiveness of the offended person. A person who confesses with no sincerity and intention of reparation is not going to have their sin forgiven.
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The Bible tells us to confess our sins to each other and pray for one another (so) that we might be healed. Alcoholics Anonymous used that principle because it involves admission/confession, or 'owning up' to one's failures, without which one cannot overcome them.
If you offend me, and I forgive you, "what we seal on earth is sealed in heaven". Just after teaching His disciples what we call the Lord's prayer, Jesus said, "For if you WILL NOT forgive, My heavenly Father WILL NOT forgive YOU. Fore (before) give (gift) ness (condition) means to pay (give up) the debt (their sin) before it goes before the Judge. No one but the wounded individual can do that.
I heard someone speaking yesterday of a case where a man's sins were 'absolved' after he died. No man can do that. Absolution sounds pretty, but only God knows the heart.
KayMarie
?

Kind of a mis-direction here Kay, but I guess I have to assume that you agree we don't confess our sins to God only.

Absolved after he died? Never heard of someone confessing their sins afterwards...
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438383 May 7, 2013
Regina wrote:
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No, dear. All you have to do is read the Bible that we gave you and obey the commands of Jesus, humbling yourselves in the face of the faith as set forth by the Apostles and the succession of His authority through the church He founded, the Catholic Church, thereby relinquishing your mitres and your paper-papacies.
"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."
Regina...why do you suppose Peter wasn't at the cross at the time when Jesus was dying for his sins?

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