Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 599811 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#438377 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="chuck"
It seems too easy to understand doesn't it.
However...if you want to control folks like catholics, you tell them from a young age you have to confess to a priest....it worked!
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All they have to do is threaten excommunication...
KayMarie
No, dear. All you have to do is read the Bible that we gave you and obey the commands of Jesus, humbling yourselves in the face of the faith as set forth by the Apostles and the succession of His authority through the church He founded, the Catholic Church, thereby relinquishing your mitres and your paper-papacies.

"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."

Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438378 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
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So what's the answer?
If he doesn't what changed and how?
The priest does not bring a sin offering during confession unless you want to count his prayers he offers up for us as he waits for the next confession and the time he has sacrificed in order to minister this Sacrament to the people.
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438379 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So do you believe that the information the Muslims received was based on truth ... or lies?
Part truth, part lies.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#438380 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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NAHHH ... those days are all but gone.
Women of the Catholic faith have abortions and now take therapy after the abortions through "project Rachel" approved of by the pope. The hierarchy gave up on that silly idea of excommunication for those women.
Catholics now know that they can be Catholic, break the rules of the hierarchy and the pope's hands are literally tied. He can't frighten them or bully them as did the popes in earlier times. Laws of the land won't allow him to burn "sinners" at the stake, or put them to death for being homosexual, etc.
It took all the joy out of popery.
sarcasm intended.
Actually, anyone who has an abortion, helps someone have an abortion, or performs an abortion is automatically excommunicated.

You should find out what the Church really teaches before posting misinformation on a public forum.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438381 May 7, 2013
Regina wrote:
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"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."
where is the word confession in the text?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438382 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Why are you confessing your sins to me if this verse is meant to confess only to God?
No Kay, we are to confess our sins to one another and to God. He does forgive us, but as St. James says it's not strictly a private confession to God alone.
And you obviously don't know anything about the Sacrament of Confession. If I were to steal from someone, part of my absolution and penance would involve returning the money and asking forgiveness of the offended person. A person who confesses with no sincerity and intention of reparation is not going to have their sin forgiven.
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The Bible tells us to confess our sins to each other and pray for one another (so) that we might be healed. Alcoholics Anonymous used that principle because it involves admission/confession, or 'owning up' to one's failures, without which one cannot overcome them.
If you offend me, and I forgive you, "what we seal on earth is sealed in heaven". Just after teaching His disciples what we call the Lord's prayer, Jesus said, "For if you WILL NOT forgive, My heavenly Father WILL NOT forgive YOU. Fore (before) give (gift) ness (condition) means to pay (give up) the debt (their sin) before it goes before the Judge. No one but the wounded individual can do that.
I heard someone speaking yesterday of a case where a man's sins were 'absolved' after he died. No man can do that. Absolution sounds pretty, but only God knows the heart.
KayMarie
?

Kind of a mis-direction here Kay, but I guess I have to assume that you agree we don't confess our sins to God only.

Absolved after he died? Never heard of someone confessing their sins afterwards...
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438383 May 7, 2013
Regina wrote:
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No, dear. All you have to do is read the Bible that we gave you and obey the commands of Jesus, humbling yourselves in the face of the faith as set forth by the Apostles and the succession of His authority through the church He founded, the Catholic Church, thereby relinquishing your mitres and your paper-papacies.
"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."
Regina...why do you suppose Peter wasn't at the cross at the time when Jesus was dying for his sins?
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438384 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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The priest does not bring a sin offering during confession unless you want to count his prayers he offers up for us as he waits for the next confession and the time he has sacrificed in order to minister this Sacrament to the people.
So what changed from the OT priests and the way they did it?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438385 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
So why go to a priest?
The issue was Kay's assertion (and yours I presume) that we don't need to confess to anyone but God. I proved that assertion wrong. Let's agree to the biblical command to confess our sins to one another and not to God only shall we?

If you want to discuss confessing to a minister of the Church we can go there afterwards.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438386 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
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where does Jesus mention confession?
23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”
See my post above. Funny how you guys start with one premise and once your shown to be wrong you immediately divert to the next objection. One of these days we might get a response like "oh, I guess you're right, well then, can you explain why you do this?"
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438387 May 7, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>your right it is hard to say anything nice about the church,when they hide their riches and their atrocities towards men,they are suppose to be there for the people and they are not,they only care about money,check their portfolio,you'll be amazed at what they own.they are the worlds richest conglomerate,yet thousands a day die of starvation and disease,and the church does nothing to financially help people out,not even to educate them to better themselves and their country.unless they start offering men a good payday to become a priest the church won't be around much longer,the priesthood is getting smaller each year,By DAVID GONZALEZ
Published: April 15, 2008 new york times.
The banners hanging in the main corridor of St. Joseph’s Seminary in Yonkers declare,“Through Faith We Grow.” The class portraits that line that very same corridor tell the opposite tale. Half a century after the halcyon days when several hundred men at a time studied to be ordained as priests for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York, only 22 are enrolled. Even more alarming to Catholics, although six men expect to be ordained in May, none are entering the first-year theology program. While seminary officials attribute the sudden drop to extra preparatory course requirements that went into effect this year, it is nonetheless a jarring development.
“You do what you can, as well as you can, for as long as you can, and hope it works,” said Bishop Gerald Walsh, the seminary’s rector.“I’d be optimistic if we had enough clergy present for young people and willing to talk to them.”
I wonder how small it is now?
St. Joseph's Seminary in Yonkers' website:
http://www.dunwoodie.edu/

46 faculty members. Over 100 seminarians hailing from around the globe. I guess enrollment is on the rise.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438388 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The issue was Kay's assertion (and yours I presume) that we don't need to confess to anyone but God. I proved that assertion wrong. Let's agree to the biblical command to confess our sins to one another and not to God only shall we?
If you want to discuss confessing to a minister of the Church we can go there afterwards.
You proved nothing but what your church teaches about confession...that's it.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438389 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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See my post above. Funny how you guys start with one premise and once your shown to be wrong you immediately divert to the next objection. One of these days we might get a response like "oh, I guess you're right, well then, can you explain why you do this?"
I still don't see where Jesus talked about confession in John 20:23...do you?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438390 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
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So Jesus gave authority to sinners so they can forgive sins....that's a tough one Tony.
I never said He couldn't give the authority but why would He. It's like trying to convince folks that Jesus gave authority to Peter...you know, the same Peter who abanded Christ when He was dying on a cross for his sins.
tough one Tony.
I know it's a tough one for protestants because they can't stomach the idea of someone having spiritual authority over them, especially when you believe that everyone who picks up a bible is their own authority. Jesus did say being humble is tough, but it's necessary. Good luck on your journey.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438391 May 7, 2013
who="Anthony MN"
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Kind of a mis-direction here Kay, but I guess I have to assume that you agree we don't confess our sins to God only.
Absolved after he died? Never heard of someone confessing their sins afterwards...

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Of course he didn't confess...

KayMarie
marge

Ames, IA

#438392 May 7, 2013
But, of course, there must be divisions among you so that you who have God's approval will be recognized.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#438393 May 7, 2013
chuck wrote:
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I did as a catholic. Then I started reading scripture and because of Christ's sacrifice on the cross, I can bypass the catholic priest and go right to God.
I am apart of the priesthood so why would I go to a priest?
What St. Paul said:

"This, as always, is God’s doing; it is he who, through Christ, has reconciled us to himself, and allowed us to minister this reconciliation of his to others."

What the priest says:

"God the Father of mercies, through the death and resurrection of your son, you have reconciled the world to yourself and sent the Holy Spirit among us for the forgiveness of sins. Through the ministry of the church, may God grant you pardon and peace. And I absolve you of your sins, in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen."
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438394 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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I have not always been Catholic. I arrived after many years as southern baptist and over a decade of being an agnostic.
So you went from being saved by faith and the grace of God into being saved by doing good works, taking the eucharist, baptism, sacraments, keep a set of rules, and faith. Does that cover it?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438395 May 7, 2013
Regina wrote:
Regina:
No, dear. All you have to do is read the Bible that we gave you and obey the commands of Jesus, humbling yourselves in the face of the faith as set forth by the Apostles and the succession of His authority through the church He founded, the Catholic Church, thereby relinquishing your mitres and your paper-papacies.
"Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."

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Aren't you afraid that you will forget one of those 'steps'?

KM
chuck

Dublin, OH

#438396 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I know it's a tough one for protestants because they can't stomach the idea of someone having spiritual authority over them, especially when you believe that everyone who picks up a bible is their own authority. Jesus did say being humble is tough, but it's necessary. Good luck on your journey.
Christ gave authority to Peter who in return abandoned Christ when He was dying on the cross....huh

tough one tony

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