Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438254 May 7, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
In every way christianity through Rome affected all of Europe has been TERRIBLY NEGATIVE:
http://see_the_truth.webs.com/ Inquisitio…
Years ago, when the xtian church had complete control over government, human life and spirit, we can see from the inquisition, just how sick these people are and just what lengths they will go to get you to accept "jesus." Just as is seen in the numerous xtian abuses of children today, years ago, with the inquisition, girls as young as nine and boys as young as ten were tried for witchcraft. Children much younger were tortured to extract testimony against their parents.¹ Children were then flogged while they watched their parents burn.
Inquisitors grew very rich, accepting bribes and fines from the wealthy who paid to avoid being prosecuted. The wealthy were prime targets for the church who confiscated their property, land and everything they had for generations. The Inquisition took over all of the victims' possessions upon accusation. There was very little if any chance of proving one's self innocent, so this is one way the catholic church grew very wealthy. Pope Innocent stated that since "god" punished children for the sins of their parents, they had no right to be legal heirs to the property of their parents. Unless children came forth freely to denounce their parents, they were left penniless. Inquisitors even accused the dead of heresy, in some cases, as much as seventy years after their death. They exhumed and burned the accused's bones and confiscated all property from their heirs, leaving them with nothing.
I found your "source." Read this hilarious critique of Hellen Ellerbe's book "The Dark Side of Christian History."

http://www.tektonics.org/af/elbee.html

The other books that are referenced are titled
Cassel Dictionary of Witchcraft, and
Wizards and Sorcerers.

Somehow I doubt these authors are experts on the Catholic Church.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438255 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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For you not to believe in it You sure are doing a lot of "school yard bickering."
If you liked all religion you wouldn't bicker about your own being the best.
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438256 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
The Mission of the Church (any Christian Church ) is 6o lift up our Lord and Savior before the world..
As far as the sin's of individual, a local Church, or
denomination...They should be confessed unto God (in the Name of Jesus)
The Roman Catholic evidently brags,boast and accuses others in their prayers...
They are as this parable of Jesus....
Luk 18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
THE ROMAN CATHOLICS ... PRAYER IS EVIDENTLY LIKE THIS..
Luk 18:11 The ROMAN CATHOLIC KNELT BEFORE HIS IDOLS and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as THESE HERETICS ARE ...
extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as these Protestants...THAT ARE SODOMIZES, HOMOSEXUALS, AND WONT EVEN WORSHIP OUR POPE
I RECEIVE THE EUCHARIST twice in the week,...I GO TO MASS..
I SAY THE ROSARY, I BOW BEFORE MY ICONS, I SAY MY HAIL MARY'S ....I REVERE THE SAINTS...I...I...I...I...
And the PROTESTANT standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, THE PROTESTANT went down to his house justified rather than the other:
for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
THE BIBLE SAYS..
1Jn_1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
No where does the Bible say that we should tell...GOD..OR any one else.....that we are justified ....because others are committing more of the same sins than we are.
He that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
It's safe to say you don't have to worry about being exalted.

Check this out, your post reminded me of this clip.
Just Sayin

Antioch, TN

#438257 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what I believe.
I know that I don't know how to tell fortunes by using words in a bible, or by reading a crystal ball ... and I know that I don't want to learn that bad habit.
Sorry, June, but it just seems the only thing you believe is that you can't believe in anything.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438258 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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He that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
It's safe to say you don't have to worry about being exalted.
Do you believe that YOU are humble?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438259 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Somehow I doubt these authors are experts on the Catholic Church.
Are you an expert?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438260 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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Sorry, June, but it just seems the only thing you believe is that you can't believe in anything.
If I join up with the Muslims will you stop accusing me of not believing in anything ... pretty please?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438261 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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He that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
Those who mouth-off about what a god does and does not believe, are anything BUT humble.

:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#438262 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am against religion ... yours included.
If you want agreement, I suggest that you hang out with those who only agree with you.
~~~

Rom_3:4 .... let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438263 May 7, 2013
People grab a bible, read some words and then preach ... "God says blah, blah, blah" as though they have found the fountain of wisdom.

Yet they don't agree on anything.

:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#438264 May 7, 2013
who="Clay"
We do read our Bibles.
But what happens if we eliminate sacred tradition/oral teachings of the Apostles and the Church, and we STILL disagree with the Evangelical movement, the Jehovah's, SDA, Pentecostal, SBC, and so on?
ie What if we see Peter was the Rock, and Christ and Paul clarified the Eucharist? And Mary could not have been contaminated with sin to conceive the Christ- God Himself made manifest - with the Holy Spirit??
Remember, the whole of the Bible reveals that sin is opposite of God; God and sin would not procreate together to create the perfectly divine Jesus Christ..
Now what argument do you have? I went 'Bible alone' and this is what i've come up with.
WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I'M WRONG?

**********
Peter said (his words) that "WE (all of us) are LIVELY STONES". Jesus/God is THE Rock.
1Pe 2:4 To Whom coming, as unto A LIVING STONE, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, BEHOLD, I LAY IN SION A CHIEF CORNER STONE, elect, precious: and he that believeth on HIM shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe HE is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

Peter is speaking of Jesus, not of himself.

Mary was a virgin. Her physical body supplied the needs of Jesus physical body as it grew. She did not create the God Spirit. We carry Him in our hearts, and His presence sanctifies us (if we obey Him), not the other way around. He won't be reduced in holiness by His association with me.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#438265 May 7, 2013
who="Clay"
...AND I read Revelation, and I found out that the Pagan Roman Empire fit the description of Johns vision not the Catholic Church??
My Sola Scripture has proved your Sola Scripture wrong.
*my hands are washed now. I'm saved. I will now rent out an old Blockbuster Video store and open up a church. I just ordained myself a Minister.
Yeee Haw!

**********
The Holy Spirit ordination surpasses that of any man.
KM

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438266 May 7, 2013
The first Apostle's Creed was compiled in 150 A.D., and there was no mention of the word "hell" in that creed. Those theologians were re-placed by new theologians and even more theologians as the centuries went by, until finally the dogma of Jesus going to hell and then ascending to heaven was added to the creed.

Truth never was an issue with the ever-changing dogmas ... yet the theologians always gave the "impression" that they were absolute tellers of truth.

What a shame.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#438267 May 7, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The Catholic bishop of Antioch wrote letters referring to the Catholic Church as a well established entity by the turn of the first century.
Not one iota of evidence exists of anyone referring to the Southern baptist denomination of protestantism until almost 1900 years later.
Question: Where were you guys hiding for 19 centuries?
When did the Early Church allow the use of statues,the worship of the Mother of God,the worship of the Host,the Papacy,Indulgences,Purgatory,s elf mortification,Mortal,venial,ac tual sins? NO,the First century church did not have that,but the Catholic church adopted all these practices and much,much more as time went on.The Bible was locked into LATIN for centuries.

Anthony there is so much negative history connected to the Catholic Church,and most of all the Inquisitions,none of which would ever have been tolerated by the First Century Church.Can you imagine the Lord Jesus setting up a tribunal,after torturing people for sometime,forcing them to parade through streets,with dunce caps on,and than burned to death in effigy,all because they did not follow His "church" that forced everyone to be members of? NO Of course not! You cannot even suggest that our Lord would force His will on anyone,let alone set up a vicious system to enforce His Holy will on.

Catholicism may be an ancient church as far back as the first century,but it is also a counterfeit of what the Bible describes a church should be.It is no wonder why the RCC degrades the sola scriptura,when in the light of scripture there is no "Condemnation to those who walk in Christ Jesus."In the light of Scripture,believers are not forced to walk with a church system,but are encouraged and taught to walk with the MAN Christ Jesus,King of kings and Lord of Lords.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438268 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
but every man a liar;
I certainly agree that all theologians told lies in the guise of truth, and that you are eager and willing to keep spreading the lies in the hopes others will believe you.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438269 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
The Holy Spirit ordination surpasses that of any man.
KM
And of course you are certain that you have been ordained by the holy spirit ... RIGHT???

You are a prime example of one who has over-dosed on your own importance.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438270 May 7, 2013
My guess is, non-human forms of life have the same source of energy as do humans. It's too bad that the words "spirit" and "soul" makes humans so insufferable as to believe that humans are special.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#438271 May 7, 2013
marge wrote:
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you we should know better, read your Bible and think.
Jethro, who presumably reads the bible, used a Joys of Satan Ministries" website to buttress a point he was attempting to make.
He did not use the bible.
Do you agree with Jethro?
Pad

Rockford, IL

#438272 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
People grab a bible, read some words and then preach ... "God says blah, blah, blah" as though they have found the fountain of wisdom.
Yet they don't agree on anything.
:)
I am so glad you don't have the final word on the activities of believers. If it were up to you we would all be given death centences,or foced to give up our faith belief by vicious means.

A cold dead heart is what you are aiming for June,and that will be hard to deal with when it finally consumes your will.ONLY Christ can shatter the ice block you are building around yourself,just so you know that when you realize you are encased in a tomb of ice.

First and foremost the reason why many people do not agree with each other on any given subject is PRIDE of what they already know.Believers in God are also no exception,but the majority of them do realize that as a community of believers they have the opportunity to spread the gospel in many ways,rather than solo.The differences are becoming more and more minute.

I have learned that the reality of Who and what Christ IS,remains the common concensus amongst all Christians of every affiliation,that is what matters most.Whether there are differences that may cause one person to leave a given assembly for another,remains a matter of the will.Everyone does not like Chocolate,or Vanilla,and or strawberry,but most people like ice cream.

Variety seems to be the way Americans especially want to go.it is somewhat indicative of our way of life.When we get tired of such and such,we go elsewhere to get what we want.Priviledged peoples because of our affluence.

The Church is in the midst of this "fast food mentality" The Quick fix."OH my soul aches where can I get cured quickly?"

We believers give out the truth and message of salvation from the BOOK,some open their hearts to it and some do not.You are one who has decided that all religion is worse than an opiate to the people.You call us fools continuously.

Since you cannot view your life after death,it is impossible for you to come to that definate conclusion that someday you will face the Judgment of God.In your case you do not believe there is a judgment,but guess what June,that you are not fully certain of.Now your will is to eradicate all vestage of faith in your own life,God does not exist to you,so there is nothing applied to you regarding:Christ and the Judgment.YOU HOPE?

You have a very dim focus of what we really believe,you claim that any rhetoric concerning God,His love,His wrath,His judgment is all ficticious nonsence.BUT,deep in your person June you do n o t K N O W if you are right on the subject.It is all conjecture with you.

Do you hope one of us will convert to the nothing dim world you are in?SMELL the roses, take a walk along a river or lake,or even a stream,and realize that your life span is much shorter than the river or lake and stream.They continue to flow long after you are dead and gone.

Our lives are quickly consumed by the years we experience,those of us who have real faith have a deep abiding hope,and not in nothingness,but a life that never ends with the Eternal One who is all consuming Love!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#438273 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The first Apostle's Creed was compiled in 150 A.D., and there was no mention of the word "hell" in that creed. Those theologians were re-placed by new theologians and even more theologians as the centuries went by, until finally the dogma of Jesus going to hell and then ascending to heaven was added to the creed.
Truth never was an issue with the ever-changing dogmas ... yet the theologians always gave the "impression" that they were absolute tellers of truth.
What a shame.
As a SELF PROCLAIMED atheist ...whats it to you?...JUST MORE OF YOUR RABBLE ROUSING...AND STEERING UP OF STRIFE ... BEING AN ADDICTED DEVASTATOR..

ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING OF ANY ADVANTAGE... TO YOUR OWN TORMENTED SOUL... NOR ANY ONE ELSE

WHY DO YOU ATTEMPT TO FIGHT AGAINST THAT WHICH YOU CLAIM DOES NOT EXIST?

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