Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650329 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438236 May 7, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>it's plain an simple,the church did not exists because of devinity,it existed to satisfy a empire of both pagans and christians,and if you think about it,it is run by a group of thieves and perverts,that is why I firmly believe it is not the true church of christ,there is nothing in the scriptures that links the two together.It's all man made.
I don't believe in the nonsense written by any of the theologians, so I don't try to prove whose dogmas are right and whose are wrong.

That type of school-yard bickering never proved anything, and it caused a whole lot of dissention and shedding of blood among the right-fighters.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438237 May 7, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>what lie?
I thought you were suggesting that pope Francis was going to brothels in person.

I was already aware of the sexual antics between nuns and priests and nuns and nuns, and priests and priests.

What goes on in society also goes on in places of worship.

Prayer doesn't take the human out of human.
Clay

Union, NJ

#438238 May 7, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
read your Bible
We do read our Bibles.

But what happens if we eliminate sacred tradition/oral teachings of the Apostles and the Church, and we STILL disagree with the Evangelical movement, the Jehovah's, SDA, Pentecostal, SBC, and so on?
ie What if we see Peter was the Rock, and Christ and Paul clarified the Eucharist? And Mary could not have been contaminated with sin to conceive the Christ- God Himself made manifest - with the Holy Spirit??
Remember, the whole of the Bible reveals that sin is opposite of God; God and sin would not procreate together to create the perfectly divine Jesus Christ..
Now what argument do you have? I went 'Bible alone' and this is what i've come up with.
WHO ARE YOU TO SAY I'M WRONG?

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438239 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
Neither.
I mean that I do not willfully sin. I live a moral life. I want to be like Him, and to be pleasing to Him. If I...or anyone else should do otherwise, they do not know Him.
However, we are flesh, and behave in sinful ways at times. Pouty, angry, vengeful reactions are not good. But John says that, "If we confess our sins TO HIM, He is faithful and just to FORGIVE US our sin, AND to CLEANSE us from all unrighteousness."
If you believe that Jesus died for your sins, then that means you can still sin and Jesus will pick up the whole tab.

Why do you keep begging him to pick up the tab for your new "sins."

The promise direct from the Catholic theologians is that Jesus died so that you would be free of all sin, not just a portion of sin.

However, the Catholics didn't even believe their own nonsense, or they wouldn't have later on created the confessional where all the new Catholic sins would automatically be forgiven by Jesus the Jew.

What a lot of silly slop those theologians taught as truth.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438240 May 7, 2013
Sex Lives of the Popes … by Nigel Cawthorne … first published in Great Britain in 1996.‘An irreverent expose’—The Sunday Times…………

Damasus I certainly enjoyed the favors of ‘the principal females of the city’. He entertained lavishly and was nicknamed by gossips ‘the matrons’ ear tickler’.
Clay

Union, NJ

#438241 May 7, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
you we should know better, read your Bible and think.
...AND I read Revelation, and I found out that the Pagan Roman Empire fit the description of Johns vision not the Catholic Church??
My Sola Scripture has proved your Sola Scripture wrong.
*my hands are washed now. I'm saved. I will now rent out an old Blockbuster Video store and open up a church. I just ordained myself a Minister.
Yeee Haw!

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438242 May 7, 2013
Sex Lives of the Popes … by Nigel Cawthorne … first published in Great Britain in 1996.‘An irreverent expose’—The Sunday Times…………

The other guardian of sexual morality, St Augustine, was more in tune with the pontificate of Pope Siricius. He began the Church’s condemnation of contraceptive devices. He called them the ‘poisons of sterility’ and regarded a wife who used them as ‘her husband’s harlot’.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438243 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither do I. I just don't believe as they believe, and neither do I do believe as you believe.
Granted. I know what I believe while you don't know what you believe.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438244 May 7, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
*my hands are washed now. I'm saved.
Are you trying to convince your self ... or others ... or both?

It seems to me that people that have to keep bragging about their own salvation, are in doubt that such a future event will actually come to fruition.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438245 May 7, 2013
I don't want to believe that a deity would place more value on me that on any other human or non-human form of life.

I find that belief totally repulsive.

I'll wait for a more suitable answer, and if none is forthcoming I will die without an answer, and it will be whatever it will be.
truth

Maida Vale, Australia

#438246 May 7, 2013
polluted mind polluted blade polluted medicine polluted water polluted air..is that sin..very modern sin..yep
kako tvoje tele moze proci kroz ausplug, ko deva kroz iglene usi..by

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438247 May 7, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Granted. I know what I believe while you don't know what you believe.
I know what I believe.

I know that I don't know how to tell fortunes by using words in a bible, or by reading a crystal ball ... and I know that I don't want to learn that bad habit.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438248 May 7, 2013
who=" Anthony MN"
Thank you for clarifying that you do still sin, and I do too. And I also love
Jesus and believe in Him.
BTW, St. John says "confess our sins", not "confess our sins to HIM".

**********
Read it again. If we confess our sins, HE forgives... To read it otherwise, one would have to add some words between 'sins', and 'He forgives'.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, HE is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

You see, ONLY the wounded party can forgive anything. Suppose someone stole a huge sum of money from you, or killed a loved one; it would be damaging to you if someone else said:'you are forgiven'. Jesus said to "forgive those who trespass against US".

At 79 years of age, my worst 'sins' are impatience, or doubt, etc.
I've struggled through 'loving my enemies', and forgiving others, etc. I recognize vengeance and hatred are ENEMIES, and I stay far away from them. No boasting, it wasn't my nature or strength, but HIS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR US if we will seek His help, rather than yield to our 'feelings'.

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438249 May 7, 2013
Keep in mind that theologians instigated the writing of every word written in every religious book on earth ... and they all gave fabulous promises to all their "individual" devotees.

They swore on their books that they all told the truth ... yet the theologians never agreed with each other.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438250 May 7, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>what lie? the church did and may still do run brothels,20% of the clients were clergy men of all ranks within the church,it started with augustine. and it was in a documentory of "how sex changed the world",that's how i found out about it and looked it up and sure enough it's true,the catholic church ran brothels, Common Women: prostitution and sexuality in medieval England, discusses how some bishops ran and owned brothels in England during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.“Ecclesiastical institutions and individuals owned brothels ... Several individual clerics also managed brothels in London and Westminster.” She mentions also that they were not only owners, but many were clients as well. Karras is not the only one to show that the clergy were clients of prostitutes.“... in the cases of procuration and brawling in the brothel or the bathhouse, members of the clergy are listed as present, named and given as residents of the city ... clergy still made up twenty per cent of the clientele of the bathhouses and the private bordellos of Dijon.”
Not only was the Church involved in ownership, but in France during the mid thirteenth century, they accepted alms from prostitutes.“In accepting the prostitute’s alms, the Church recognized that she had acted out of necessity.” The Church supported this institution because they believed it to be a necessity. They owned and ran brothels, accepted money from prostitutes, and used Mary Magdalene as an example of a prostitute who redeemed herself by repenting. Many were tolerant of prostitutes by acknowledging them as a future Mary Magdalene.
The church followed the philosophy regarding prostitution as a “necessary evil” and often participated in it, since it had been justified. The medieval public followed the same philosophy. They kept and welcomed prostitution into their communities.
the Catholic Church not only condoned prostitution, but allowed it to be run out of the monasteries and convents. The phrase, "get thee to a nunnery" had nothing to do with a convent of "nuns" but rather the "nunnery" was a brothel. The exhortation was given to young men to keep them from trying to corrupt the virgin daughters of the townspeople.
"20% of the clients were clergy..."

Where is the proof?

"It started with Augustine..."

Where is your proof?

"in a documentary..."

Care to say which one?

"She mentions also..."

Who are you talking about?

"Church involved in ownership..."

Where is your proof?

"Catholic Church condoned prostitution..."

Where is your proof?

Your post here is completely laughable. Only the super lazy would simple accept what you say here.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#438251 May 7, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe in the nonsense written by any of the theologians, so I don't try to prove whose dogmas are right and whose are wrong.
That type of school-yard bickering never proved anything, and it caused a whole lot of dissention and shedding of blood among the right-fighters.
For you not to believe in it You sure are doing a lot of "school yard bickering."

Practice what you preach

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438252 May 7, 2013
100 Tyrants … History’s Most Evil Despots & Dictators by Nigel Hawthorne … first published in 2005

Hung Hsiu-ch’uan

In a prolonged delirium, Hung claimed to have met God and converted to Christianity. His mission, he claimed, was to expel the ‘demons’– that is, the Manchu rulers from China.

He joined a sect called the Society of God Worshippers and became their leader.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438253 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
For you not to believe in it You sure are doing a lot of "school yard bickering."
Practice what you preach
Yes, I am against religion ... yours included.

If you want agreement, I suggest that you hang out with those who only agree with you.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#438254 May 7, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
In every way christianity through Rome affected all of Europe has been TERRIBLY NEGATIVE:
http://see_the_truth.webs.com/ Inquisitio…
Years ago, when the xtian church had complete control over government, human life and spirit, we can see from the inquisition, just how sick these people are and just what lengths they will go to get you to accept "jesus." Just as is seen in the numerous xtian abuses of children today, years ago, with the inquisition, girls as young as nine and boys as young as ten were tried for witchcraft. Children much younger were tortured to extract testimony against their parents.¹ Children were then flogged while they watched their parents burn.
Inquisitors grew very rich, accepting bribes and fines from the wealthy who paid to avoid being prosecuted. The wealthy were prime targets for the church who confiscated their property, land and everything they had for generations. The Inquisition took over all of the victims' possessions upon accusation. There was very little if any chance of proving one's self innocent, so this is one way the catholic church grew very wealthy. Pope Innocent stated that since "god" punished children for the sins of their parents, they had no right to be legal heirs to the property of their parents. Unless children came forth freely to denounce their parents, they were left penniless. Inquisitors even accused the dead of heresy, in some cases, as much as seventy years after their death. They exhumed and burned the accused's bones and confiscated all property from their heirs, leaving them with nothing.
I found your "source." Read this hilarious critique of Hellen Ellerbe's book "The Dark Side of Christian History."

http://www.tektonics.org/af/elbee.html

The other books that are referenced are titled
Cassel Dictionary of Witchcraft, and
Wizards and Sorcerers.

Somehow I doubt these authors are experts on the Catholic Church.

Since: Sep 09

Williams Lake, Canada

#438255 May 7, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
For you not to believe in it You sure are doing a lot of "school yard bickering."
If you liked all religion you wouldn't bicker about your own being the best.

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