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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590579 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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marge

Ames, IA

#437956 May 5, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Of course it could change, we know that, we've always known that. It's a discipline, a practice, not dogma. And no one ever said it was dogma. lol, nothing new here, June.
ten centuries of 'good experiences' with celebacy? Are you kidding me??? Isn't it almost exclusively the celebrate priests or did all the abuse???

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#437957 May 5, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Of course it could change, we know that, we've always known that. It's a discipline, a practice, not dogma. And no one ever said it was dogma. lol, nothing new here, June.
Fancy words will get you no-where. It's plain that no god on earth or in the sky tells those men what to believe.

They always made it up as they went, and they always will, as long as people support their lies.

Centuries of Catholics and Protestants killing each other over words interpreted in VAIN has lead to nothing that resembles peace ... and still, that one word "salvation" makes you ignore all else in the hopes that a Jew came to the world from the sky with a message that only those who believe as Christian's believe will be saved.

And Christians don't agree and never have agreed on who is worthy of the blessing of "salvation." They all preach that it is THEY and ONLY THEY who gleans sparkling truth from words.

What a shame that you refuse to see the lies in which you live!
marge

Ames, IA

#437958 May 5, 2013
The obvious don't even come to their minds!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#437959 May 5, 2013
Another archaic medium on the throne who believes he channels a god from the sky.

I suggest that if he lives to reign ten more years , he will be singing a different song.
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Pope Francis, in his own words, on the issues

HOMOSEXUALITY: The Vatican condemns gay acts, tolerates gay tendencies. Francis goes a bit farther.

Gay marriage is "an anthropological step backward. If there's a private union, then third parties and society aren't affected. But if they're granted marriage rights and can adopt, there could be children affected. Every person needs a masculine father and a feminine mother to help them settle their identity."

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-own-words-...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#437960 May 5, 2013
marge wrote:
The obvious don't even come to their minds!
Maybe you could explain what doesn't come to whose minds, so we know what you mean ... in detail.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#437961 May 5, 2013
marge wrote:
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ten centuries of 'good experiences' with celebacy? Are you kidding me??? Isn't it almost exclusively the celebrate priests or did all the abuse???
It was in the neighborhood of ten centuries, and yes, it was supposed celibate priests and nuns and bishops etc., that committed the molestations.

What goes in in society, goes on the same in places of worship.

Humans are not above being human.
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From the book "The History Of Christianity ... The Church from the Reformation to the Present, Volume 2, by Clyde L. Manschreck ... comes the following.

Dedicated to the austere ideals of Cluny, Gregory sought to enforce clerical celibacy not only as a purer state but as a means of freeing the church from the world. In1074 he prohibited future marriages and ordered married priests to dismiss their wives or give up reading mass. Clerical marriage from his viewpoint was no better than fornication.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#437962 May 5, 2013
Here is an example of a pedophile who molested both boys and girls, hiding in the guise of serving a god.
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Global-Sisterhood-Network

By Tom Arup

THE parents of two girls who were repeatedly raped by a Melbourne priest are flying to Sydney from London to face Cardinal George Pell in time for Sunday's World Youth Day final Mass.

Anthony Foster, whose daughters were raped by Kevin O'Donnell when they were in primary school, alleges Cardinal Pell stalled the family's compensation claim against the Catholic Church when he was archbishop of Melbourne.

Earlier this year, the eldest daughter, Emma, took her own life after a long battle with drug addiction, which Mr Foster attributed directly to her rape as a schoolgirl. His second daughter, Katherine, who developed a heavy drinking habit, was hit by a drunk driver in 1999 and left physically and mentally disabled and requiring 24-hour care.

Last night, Mr Foster told the ABC's Lateline program that last week's revelations that Cardinal Pell allegedly obstructed a sexual abuse case against another priest had sparked him into action.

He said he hoped he could support others with sexual abuse claims and change the church's attitudes to compensating victims.

"I want them to set up a system that provides a life-time help to victims, that begs forgiveness to victims," Mr Foster said.

Mr Foster said an apology by the Pope to victims of sexual abuse in the church would not be satisfactory unless it was backed up by structural change.

"An apology is not enough unless it is backed up with action, unless he removes all obstacles to continuing support for victims," Mr Foster said.

"They should come to us and beg for forgiveness."

His daughters were raped over five years by O'Donnell when they attended Sacred Heart Primary School in Oakleigh between 1988 and 1993.

In 1996 O'Donnell was convicted of abusing 11 boys and one girl, aged between 8 and 14, between 1946 and 1977, and sentenced to 15 months in prison. He died after his release in 1997.

Initially offered $50,000 by Cardinal Pell under his "Towards Healing" program, the Fosters pursued their case via the legal system for eight years, culminating in a six-figure settlement with the church in 2006 - one of the largest of its kind in the country.

In 1998, when Emma was 16, Cardinal Pell wrote to her, saying: "It is my hope that my offer will be accepted by you as a preferable alternative to legal proceedings and that it too will assist you with your future."

"On behalf of the Catholic Church and personally, I apologise to you and to those around you for the wrongs and hurt you have suffered at the hands of Father Kevin O'Donnell. I offer you my prayers."

Mr Foster last night claimed this apology was removed by lawyers for the church in 2002 during the court case over compensation.

"Emma carried the pain of her abuse for all her life until it ended recently," he told the ABC. "We really want to make sure that in her name and her memory something is done for other victims."

A spokesman said the church did not have enough time to respond to the story last night or whether Cardinal Pell or the Pope will meet Mr Foster.

Last week Cardinal Pell was accused by Anthony Jones of attempting to cover up a non-consensual sexual experience with Father Terrence Goodall, by ignoring the results of a church investigation.

Cardinal Pell denies the accusations and has referred the case to an independent panel.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#437963 May 5, 2013
marge wrote:
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ten centuries of 'good experiences' with celebacy? Are you kidding me??? Isn't it almost exclusively the celebrate priests or did all the abuse???
http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#437964 May 5, 2013
I'm tired of members of hierarchies and their followers pointing outward at supposed sin, while hiding their nasty habits in closets inside the churches.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#437965 May 5, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I'm tired of members of hierarchies and their followers pointing outward at supposed sin, while hiding their nasty habits in closets inside the churches.
So am I.

I wish these non-Catholics would look in their own closets first.
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#437966 May 5, 2013
Dan wrote:
Um, all Christians believed in the Real Presence until the Reformation.
The Catholic Church claims that the doctrine of transubstantiation dates back to Jesus and the apostles, but this is historically not the case.

The teaching of transubstantiation does not date back to the Last Supper as most Catholics suppose.

It was a controversial topic for many centuries before officially becoming an article of faith (which means that it is essential to salvation according to Rome.)

The idea of a physical presence was vaguely held by some, such as Ambrose, but it was not until 831 A.D. that Paschasius Radbertus, a Benedictine Monk, published a treatise openly advocating the doctrine. Even then, for almost another four centuries, theological war was waged over this teaching by bishops and people alike, until at the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215 A.D., it was officially defined and canonized as a dogma (A "Dogma" is a teaching or doctrine that can never be reversed or repealed. It is equal in authority to the Bible) by Pope Innocent III.

Where did this teaching and practice really come from?

Like many of the beliefs and rites of Romanism, transubstantiation was first practiced by pagan religions.

The noted historian Durant said that belief in transubstantiation as practiced by the priests of the Roman Catholic system is "one of the oldest ceremonies of primitive religion" (The Story of Civilization, p. 741.)
The syncretism and mysticism of the Middle East were great factors in influencing the West, particularly Italy.(Roman Society from Nero to Marcus Aurelius, by Dill.)

In Egypt, priests would consecrate meat cakes, which were supposed to become the flesh of Osiris!(an ancient Egyptian god of the lower world and judge of the dead - Encyclopaedia of Religions, Vol. 2, p. 76.)

The idea of transubstantiation was also characteristic of the religion of Mithra whose sacraments of cakes and haoma drink closely parallel Catholic Eucharistic rites.

The idea of eating the flesh of deity was most popular among the people of Mexico and Central America long before they ever heard of Christ; and when Spanish missionaries first landed in those countries, "their surpass was heightened when they witnessed a religious rite which reminded them of communion... an image made of flour... and after consecration by priests, was distributed among the people who ate it... declaring it was the flesh of deity." (Prescott's Mexico, Vol. 3.)

Again, the RCC practices many things from PAGANISM.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#437967 May 5, 2013
SHARE THIS LADIES!!!!!

How can you tell when you are in a room, restroom, motel etc. with a mirror or a 2-way glass?

Here's how: I thought it was quite interesting! And I know in about 30 seconds you're going to do what I did and find the nearest mirror.

Do you know how to determine if a mirror is 2-way or not? A policewoman who travels all over the US and gives seminars and techniques for businesswomen passed this on.

When we visit toilets, bathrooms, hotel rooms, changing rooms, etc., how many of you know for sure that the seemingly ordinary mirror hanging on the wall is a real mirror, or actually a 2-way mirror (i.e., they can see you, but you can't see them)? There have been many cases of people installing 2-way mirrors in female changing rooms . It is very difficult to positively identify the surface by looking at it.

So, how do we determine with any amount of certainty what type of mirror we are looking at?

TWO WAY GLASS IMAGE MIRROR IMAGE

Just conduct this simple test: Place the tip of your fingernail against the reflective surface and if there is a GAP between your fingernail and the image of the nail, then it is GENUINE mirror. However, if your fingernail DIRECTLY TOUCHES the image of your nail, then BEWARE! IT IS A 2-WAY MIRROR!

"No Space, Leave the Place" So remember, every time you see a mirror, do the "fingernail test." It doesn't cost you anything.

REMEMBER. No Space, Leave the Place:

Ladies: Share this with your girlfriends, sisters, daughters, etc.

Men: Share this with your wives, daughters, daughters-in-law, mothers, girlfriends and/or friends.
Regina

Long Branch, NJ

#437968 May 5, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Here is an example of a pedophile who molested both boys and girls, hiding in the guise of serving a god.
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Now, now, June....we know you're ticked off because Anthony pointed out that it was proven that the great majority of abuse was committed by homosexuals, and you have a homosexual agenda.

Of course, you'll get lots of protestant evangelical support for that here. They'll vote for same-sex marriage if they think it will thwart the Catholic Church.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#437969 May 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The Catholic bishop of Antioch wrote letters referring to the Catholic Church as a well established entity by the turn of the first century.
Not one iota of evidence exists of anyone referring to the Southern baptist denomination of protestantism until almost 1900 years later.
Question: Where were you guys hiding for 19 centuries?
Writing about the Catholic Church does not mean a Catholic church existed...it merely means he wrote about it!!!! By the same token, you can write all day long about the goose that laid the golden egg...it does not mean the goose exits...it only means you wrote about it!!!

History can only be denied by Catholic...

The Roman Empire legally recognized Pauline Christianity as a valid religion in 313 AD. Later in that century, in 380 AD, Roman Catholicism became the official religion of the Roman Empire. During the following 1000 years, Catholics were the only people recognized as Christians.

Question: If, as you believe, Christ built the Catholic Church when He said "I will build my church"...why did it take Him,almost 400 years to do So!!!!!????

If you want to discuss the SBC...start a new thread...
Ella

Rockford, MI

#437970 May 5, 2013
Dan wrote:
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"New Universities Webster Dictionary"?
When was yours published, Ella?
It was in 1935
Ella

Rockford, MI

#437971 May 5, 2013
marge wrote:
I sure do love the mis-directed catholics here:)
The Harvest is great. Soon there will be the separation of the wheat and the tares.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#437972 May 5, 2013
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June VanDerMark wrote:
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If a synagogue is the same as a church, why do Christians not go to synagogues to pray and worship the supposed Jewish god?
There is no "if" a synagogue is the same as a church...it is a church..per Scripture:

ekklesia, a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#437973 May 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I strive not to allow the five senses to control my life...
Faith does not depend upon what a person....
feels...sees.. hears...taste or smells.
Faith is having confident expectations in What God has Spoken forth and
being fully persuaded in your own heart that what God has spoken forth .
He will perform/do.
While I appreciate your interest in the destiny of my eternal soul..
you need not waste your time...
2Ti_1:12 ........ I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
Amen sister! I share your conviction. God is AWESOME indeed.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#437974 May 5, 2013
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June VanDerMark wrote:
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Are you indicating that the Jews (faithful to Judaism) came up with the word Christian so that Catholics could branch OFF of Judaism with a new sect???
How ludicrous.
I am not indicating...I am saying:122

The truth: A name given at Antioch to those who believed Jesus to be the Messiah, A. D. 42, Ac 11:26 It seems to have been given to them by the men of Antioch as a term of convenience rather than of ridicule, to designate the new sect more perfectly than any other word could do.
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#437975 May 5, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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As you enjoy using scriptures to bully others, my guess is, nothing I post will change your mind. But I'll still try.
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Sexual orientation is an adult attraction to other adults, About.com adoption expert Carrie Craft explains. Pedophilia is an adult sexual attraction to children. Yet, myths that link gay men with child abuse continue to circulate, especially in the wake of the latest priest-child abuse scandals.
http://gaylife.about.com/b/2010/04/09/how-lik ....
Maybe you should actually click on the link and/or research the data. Not one verse of scripture in my post or links.

The report (and almost all other studies) confirm it was homosexual men who were responsible for almost all of the abuse. The vast majority of victims were pubescent and post-pubescent boys (not children in the physical sense). The homosexuals had serious psychological problems, but they were not attracted to the opposite sex.

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