Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675922 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438004 May 5, 2013
Regina wrote:
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Most were homosexuals, not pedophiles.
So the hierarchy covered up centuries of abuse by homosexuals, so that when the cover-ups were reported by people within the church, the popes could then blame homosexual for all their problems???

Your indoctrination will keep you in the dark, and that is where you prefer to stay.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#438005 May 5, 2013
993
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I just that you try answering my question rather than regurgitating nonsense.
Are you indicating that the Jews (faithful to Judaism) came up with the word Christian so that Catholics could branch OFF of Judaism with a new sect???
The "who" came up with the term is in my post The "why" is answered in my post. Squinting helps...some time.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438006 May 5, 2013
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>So, you are just silly. There would be two crimes and the gravest ones done by the perp, the homosexuals.
I don't expect to get anything but this type of regurgitated drivel that comes straight from the mouths of theologians.

There is no point in continuing this conversation with any of you as you are intent on vilifying homosexuals as your theologians have done since the beginning of Christianity.

At least now you can't send them to their deaths, as occurred for one century after another ... and I'm thankful for that blessing that came from separation of government and religion ... and did NOT come from any god.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438007 May 5, 2013
Queen fights for gay rights: Monarch makes historic pledge on discrimination

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22908...
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Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#438008 May 5, 2013
995
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol. Yeah, he just made up the word as a filler for the rest of the instruction letters he was writing to the Churches.
Once again you've proven how much of a bore you are to communicate with.
Good luck to you.
Thanks for verifying my words as being the undeniable truth...

Quote: Writing about the Catholic Church does not mean a Catholic church existed...it merely means he wrote about it!!!! By the same token, you can write all day long about the goose that laid the golden egg...it does not mean the goose exits...it only means you wrote about it!!!

History can only be denied by Catholic...
The Roman Empire legally recognized Pauline Christianity as a valid religion in 313 AD. Later in that century, in 380 AD, Roman Catholicism became the official religion of the Roman Empire. During the following 1000 years, Catholics were the only people recognized as Christians.

Question: If, as you believe, Christ built the Catholic Church when He said "I will build my church"...why did it take Him,almost 400 years to do So!!!!!????

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438010 May 5, 2013
Catholic School Official Fired for Blogging on Gay Marriage

A Catholic school assistant principal was fired yesterday for blogging in support of gay marriage, according to news reports.

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2013/02...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438011 May 5, 2013
abc News

Catholics Back Same-Sex Marriage

Support for gay marriage has increased in the United States in recent years, and it's actually higher among Catholics than it is among Americans overall.

A majority of Catholics, 54 percent, now support gay marriage, compared to 47 percent of all Americans, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.

http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majo...
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#438012 May 5, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
So the hierarchy covered up centuries of abuse by homosexuals, so that when the cover-ups were reported by people within the church, the popes could then blame homosexual for all their problems???
Your indoctrination will keep you in the dark, and that is where you prefer to stay.
There are no "centuries of abuse". And please don't pull out the anti-Catholic garbage you dig up on the web. Be different from the other fundies; show some integrity.

Actually, you're cutting off your nose to spite your face, June. The Church is the only place that homosexuals are welcome and treated with respect. It's the lifestyle that's considered sinful, not the person. In fundie-land, they're not allowed to walk past the building and are reviled as less than human.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#438013 May 5, 2013
Regina wrote:
<quoted text>
At the time that most of the abuses occurred (several decades ago), the offending priests were sent for treatment as that was the recommended action in those days. Psychologists claimed to have the answer. They didn't.
Response to Mr Eamon Gilmore,
Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade of Ireland,
concerning the Cloyne Report
BACKGROUND
On 14 July 2011, following the publication on the previous day of the Report of the Commission of Investigation into the Catholic Diocese of Cloyne (Cloyne Report), Mr Eamon Gilmore, Deputy Prime Minister (Tánaiste) and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade of Ireland, met with the Apostolic Nuncio in Ireland, Archbishop Giuseppe Leanza.
In his speaking points, a copy of which he gave to the Nuncio, the Minister stated:“among the most disturbing of the findings of the Cloyne report is that the Vatican authorities undermined the Irish Church’s own efforts to deal with clerical child sexual abuse by describing the framework document adopted by the Bishops’ Conference as a mere ‘study document’. The Commission have described this intervention by the Vatican as entirely unhelpful to any bishop which wanted to implement the procedures adopted by the Bishop’s conference and as unsupportive, especially in relation to report to the civil authorities. Frankly, it is unacceptable to the Irish Government that the Vatican intervened to effectively have priests believe they could in conscience evade their responsibilities under Irish law.”[1] The Minister then requested him to convey to the Holy See a copy of the Report together with the Irish Government’s views on the matters raised, and asked for the Holy See’s response in the following terms:“I would ask you to convey this report and my Governments view’s to your authorities in the Vatican. I believe that a response is required and I look forward to receiving it.”
On 20 July 2011, the Irish Prime Minister (Taoiseach), Mr Enda Kenny, made a speech in Dáil Éireann in which he asserted that “for the first time in Ireland, a report into child sexual abuse exposes an attempt by the Holy See to frustrate an Inquiry in a sovereign, democratic republic as little as three years ago, not three decades ago. And in doing so, the Cloyne Report excavates the dysfunction, disconnection, elitism … the narcissism that dominates the culture of the Vatican to this day.” Commenting on the meeting between the Apostolic Nuncio and the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Kenny stated:“The Tánaiste left the Archbishop clear on two things: the gravity of the actions and attitude of the Holy See. And Ireland’s complete rejection and abhorrence of same.”
Subsequently, a motion on the Cloyne Report was passed in which, among other things, Dáil Éireann “deplores the Vatican’s intervention which contributed to the undermining of the child protection framework and guidelines of the Irish State and the Irish Bishops”. The same motion was passed by Seanad Éireann on 27 July 2011.
On 25 July 2011, the Press Office of the Holy See published the decision taken by the Secretariat of State to recall the Apostolic Nuncio for consultations.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#438015 May 5, 2013
cont'd
RESPONSE OF THE HOLY SEE.....
[1] All texts are quoted according to the version made available to the Holy See.
[2] Can. 1717 §1. Whenever an ordinary has knowledge, which at least seems true, of a delict, he is carefully to inquire personally or through another suitable person about the facts, circumstances, and imputability, unless such an inquiry seems entirely superfluous.
§2. Care must be taken so that the good name of anyone is not endangered from this investigation.
§3. The person who conducts the investigation has the same powers and obligations as an auditor in the process; the same person cannot act as a judge in the matter if a judicial process is initiated later.
Can. 1718 §1. When it seems that sufficient evidence has been collected, the ordinary is to decide:
1. whether a process to inflict or declare a penalty can be initiated; 2. whether, attentive to can. 1341, this is expedient; 3. whether a judicial process must be used or, unless the law forbids it, whether the matter must proceed by way of extrajudicial decree.
§2. The ordinary is to revoke or change the decree mentioned in §1 whenever new evidence indicates to him that another decision is necessary.
§3. In issuing the decrees mentioned in §§1 and 2, the ordinary is to hear two judges or other experts of the law if he considers it prudent.
§4. Before he makes a decision according to the norm of §1 and in order to avoid useless trials, the ordinary is to examine carefully whether it is expedient for him or the investigator, with the consent of the parties, to resolve equitably the question of damages.
Can. 1719 The acts of the investigation, the decrees of the ordinary which initiated and concluded the investigation, and everything which preceded the investigation are to be kept in the secret archive of the curia if they are not necessary for the penal process.
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to be cont'd
Ella

Rockford, MI

#438016 May 5, 2013
cont'd
Vatican Say Abuse Response Crucial for Credibility
By Stephen Brown
VATICAN CITY | Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:42pm EDT
(Reuters)- The Catholic Church's response to cases of sexual abuse by priests is crucial to its credibility and it must "acknowledge and make amends for" even decades-old cases, a Vatican spokesman said on Saturday.
The church is reeling from a series of media reports this week that Pope Benedict, before being elected pontiff, may have looked the other way in the case of the abuse of hundreds of boys by a priest at an American school for the deaf.
The Vatican has denied any cover-up in the abuse of 200 deaf boys by Reverend Lawrence Murphy from the 1950s to the 1960s, after the New York Times reported he was not defrocked despite warnings sent to the Vatican and to Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, then the church's top doctrinal official, now Pope Benedict.
The New York Times report came after many new allegations of sexual abuse by priests in Europe, especially in Ireland and Germany, with pressure on bishops to resign for failing to report cases to civil authorities.
"The nature of this issue is bound to attract media attention and the way the church responds is crucial for its moral credibility," said the Vatican's chief spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, to Vatican Radio.
Although the cases cited happened long ago, "even decades ago, acknowledging them and making amends to the victims is the price for reestablishing justice and looking to the future with renewed vigor, humility and confidence," Lombardi said.
The Vatican spokesman defended action taken by the church to educate priests and lay members of the church about abuse. While warning against complacency, Lombardi said the number of cases reported had fallen by more than 30 percent in the past year and most of those "concern events of over 30 years ago."
He said "any non-superficial observer" could see "the authority of the pope" and of the doctrinal body he once presided over -- the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith -- had not been weakened by events because of the firm response.
Supporters of Pope Benedict point to his action against the charismatic head of the priestly order The Legion of Christ, Father Marcial Maciel, after evidence emerged in 2006 confirming earlier allegations that he had abused young seminarians.
The Legion disowned its founder this week, in a move perhaps unprecedented in the history of a Catholic order. Maciel died in 2008, still a priest, but having sent by Benedict to retire to a life of "prayer and penitence."
With the media spotlight on whether Benedict refers to the abuse cases in Easter Week ceremonies starting with Palm Sunday mass, Lombardi said prayers would focus on "the young and the people dedicated to educating and protecting them."
He told Vatican Radio these prayers "sum up the feelings of the church at this difficult time when it confonts the plague of pedophilia."
marge

Leesburg, GA

#438017 May 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
In the case of the abuse scandal the predominant problem was homosexual priests, and also not taking their vows seriously.
How do you explain sex abuse among protestant groups at a higher rate and in light of the fact that you don't have a celibacy rule?
Then use your brain and realize since we don't have queer leaders your facts about us must be wrong, duh.

Ella

Rockford, MI

#438018 May 5, 2013
cont'd
No More Second Chances
Jim FitzGerald is the executive director of Call To Action, a national Catholic justice organization, and Nicole Sotelo is the group’s communications director and the author of “Women Healing from Abuse: Meditations for Finding Peace.”
Scripture shows us that Jesus often gave people a second chance to make things right once they were shown the truth. Roman Catholic Church leaders today have had chance after chance to do justice not just in individual cases of sexual abuse survivors, but also to remedy what is at the root of the church’s sexual abuse crisis. Unfortunately, they haven’t done either.
Government officials must step in to investigate the crimes.
The roots of this crisis are perpetuated by the secrecy and lack of accountability that has been the modus operandi by church officials for decades. Decisions to hide cases from the public and to harbor pedophile priests has allowed perpetrators to walk freely, abusing child after child. Some bishops still refuse to fully comply with their own internal audits that are meant to safeguard children, and other bishops continue to fight in court against legislation that would allow survivors to bring their cases forward.
What we have learned is that the bishops will not remedy the situation on their own. Survivors, Catholic laity and local news media must hold the bishops accountable.
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March 17, 2010, 6:09 pm
Changing the Vatican’s Response to Abuse
By THE EDITORS (NY TIMES)
As the sexual abuse scandal in the Roman Catholic Church continues to unfold, Pope Benedict XVI said he would issue a letter to Irish Catholics on Friday to help “repentance, healing and renewal.”
The pope himself has been embroiled in the case of Peter Hullermann, a German priest who was convicted of molesting children but had been allowed to work in Munich for more than 30 years until his suspension on Monday. The pope, the former Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, had served as head of the archdiocese where the priest worked and was later the cardinal in charge of reviewing sexual abuse cases for the Vatican.
What lessons should have been learned from the church’s handling of the American sexual abuse cases? What questions should be asked of the Vatican and what should it do?
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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438019 May 5, 2013
My guess is, the pope is not going to win this battle for his artificial god.

As more Catholics are fired for supporting the rights of gays, more will be aggravated by the harsh dictatorship of the hierarchy and irate Catholics will fight even more for gay rights.

It's HIGH time they are treated with dignity.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438020 May 5, 2013
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>What is worse is that you are covering up for gay pedophiles.
Rant on, but soon gay marriage will be coming to your community, and that will put your holy self-image in a knot.
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#438021 May 5, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
abc News
Catholics Back Same-Sex Marriage
Support for gay marriage has increased in the United States in recent years, and it's actually higher among Catholics than it is among Americans overall.
A majority of Catholics, 54 percent, now support gay marriage, compared to 47 percent of all Americans, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majo...
That would be a majority of the people they questioned. Not a majority of Catholics. Silly secularists.

There are so-called Catholics who agree with abortion, divorce and remarriage, and a host of other sinful behaviors. So what? All these kinds of "news" stories do is tickle the ears of non-Catholics. That's been going on since the beginning of time. Pfft.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438023 May 5, 2013
The increase in support for gay marriage among Catholics coincides with an overall increase in support for the idea in the United States. High-profile public officials, including President Barack Obama, have increasingly taken a pro-gay-marriage stance. Obama announced last spring that he supports same sex-marriage, and former President Bill Clinton wrote in a Thursday opinion piece for The Washington Post that the Defense of Marriage Act he signed into law in 1996 should be overturned. That act defines marriage as being between a man and a woman.

"When I signed the bill, I included a statement with the admonition that 'enactment of this legislation should not, despite the fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to provide an excuse for discrimination," Clinton wrote in the Post. "Reading those words today, I know now that, even worse than providing an excuse for discrimination, the law is itself discriminatory. It should be overturned."

http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/majo...
Regina

Lakewood, NJ

#438024 May 5, 2013
Ella wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Ella...your neighbor 'Angel' has a huge psychological problem. Why don't you be a good Christian and help her out?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#438027 May 5, 2013
Christians behave as mortals just as do all others.

They have abortions "in clinics" ... they get hooked on drugs ... they commit adultery ... they swear and lie and steal and murder and con others and on and on and on.

Only they have a picture of their selves as being above others in the glow of "holy" limelight.

Silly people.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#438030 May 5, 2013
The Roman Catholic Church is one of the largest religious denominations in the world today, with an estimated 1.1 billion adherents. Frequently, and for simplicity's sake, they just call themselves Catholics. Like most religions, they believe that they are the only universal valid faith; naturally, other Christians disagree. Even in Ireland, a relatively conservative country, the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church seems to be increasingly out of touch with what ordinary Catholics want.

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