Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436431 Apr 30, 2013
The Seven Mysteries of Life … Exploration in Science and Philosophy … Guy Murchie.

But the kind of creatures prosecuted have ranged all the way from cattle and dolphins down to fish and ants—even occasionally vegetables, as when a priest in medieval Burgundy declared an anathema and, in the name of sanctity, excommunicated an orchard because its fruit had tempted children to stay away from mass. And as late as 1905 a “criminal dog was sentenced to death in Switzerland. Yet none of all the bewildered defendants was ever granted the means to sue humanity for perpetrating on them such devilish cruelties as the wire noose and the steel trap, which seem to me morally worse than anything any animal could hope to devise.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436432 Apr 30, 2013
[QUOTE who="New Age Spiritual Leader"to know yourself is to know the kingdom of God" - Jesus[/QUOTE]

It seem you really DO perceive your "self" as a divine spiritual leader.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436433 Apr 30, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
I want to be Catholic.
I want to be a Jew and go "right" to the source of the holiness.

OH OH!... I forgot momentarily that it was the god of the Jews that created evil.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436434 Apr 30, 2013
The new age spiritual leaders like to "let on" that Jesus now welcomes all one-time offenders in other religions into the new fold.

But the original Christians taught otherwise, and the fact that they burned others at the stake for not being Christian indicated that they "meant business."

New age is all about fluff ... cookies and milk and such.

Those ancient ones knew that the gods were brutal and would kill offenders at the "sight" of blood.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436435 Apr 30, 2013
who="marge"
Is this the verse your looking for?
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]

**********

Thanks, Marge. That is part of it, but he goes further to say that God has no son. He was upset with the teaching of the day that put Jesus AND Mary up as part of the Godhead. He declares Jesus to be A prophets, but calls himself THE prophet of God.

Islam teaches that Jesus was good...but that Mohammed is THE prophet foretold in scripture. They declare that the Jews rewrote the scriptures and made Isaac the son that was offered by Abraham, rather than Ishmael.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436436 Apr 30, 2013
who="jethro8" a girl that a friend of mine knows,was a heavy drug user,got pregnant the baby was born with only half brain function,webbed hands and feet,6 toeswill be a vegatable it's whole life.that is one reason i support the right to have abn abortion ,this girl should have,she had her tubes tied to stop her from having kids.

**********

That girl didn't need an abortion. She needed to lay off the drugs.
Why kill a baby, so that people can 'have their fun'?

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436437 Apr 30, 2013
Those ancient "gods" were mean sons of b*tches ... but I am compelled to ask ... "Who 'were' their wild mothers."

:)

My guess is, the mother of invention won't tell us ... unless of course it's the mother of invention that created all fantasy.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436438 Apr 30, 2013
who="jethro8" why punish the baby for the sins of the parents? not fair,the child has done nothing wrong.

**********

God didn't punish the baby. Parents who abuse their own bodies cause damage to their babies. It was the fault of the parents.

KM

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436439 Apr 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="marge"
Is this the verse your looking for?
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thous knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]
**********
After Christians slaughtering Muslims for so many centuries as heretics, do you really want to play with the Qur'an in order to feign that your god now loves all people ... especially as Muslims believe that Christians are infidels that will burn in Islam's hell???

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436440 Apr 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="jethro8" why punish the baby for the sins of the parents? not fair,the child has done nothing wrong.
**********
God didn't punish the baby. Parents who abuse their own bodies cause damage to their babies. It was the fault of the parents.
KM
Are you afraid that if you put your "god" to the test, that "he" will put you on a HOOK, as do brutal members of the mafia?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436441 Apr 30, 2013
who="Religion - A Delusion"
I want to be Catholic.
But I can't come to terms with why God would ever appoint an institution that openly honors child abuse enablers - for the purpose of bring "morality" to mankind.
When I stop feeling repulsed by child sex abuse, and when I stop feeling repulsed by how the Vatican honors Cardinal Law to this day -- then I will join the Catholic church.
After all, the Catholic church was appointed by God to teach us morality -- so child sex abuse must be OK and there is something wrong with me.
**********

Read your Bible. You will see that GOD is AGAINST sexual impurity of ANY KIND.

If you are opposed to child sex abuse, there is nothing wrong with you on that matter.

God is not an illusion, nor is He a delusion. All of HIS moral attitude is PURE. Find HIM...not a spiritual club.

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436442 Apr 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="marge"
Is this the verse your looking for?
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]
**********
Imagine what would have happened to you as a Christian of a few centuries back for using the Qur'an as your Christian base.

It seem that you must preach in order to feel self-worth. No matter which book you pull words from ... it seems better to you than not preaching at all.
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#436443 Apr 30, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
I emailed this Dr Day once. She is a defender of the Roman Church and refuses to accept anything e.g. dogma not supported by the Bible. So much for women preachers.
The Pope claims to be 'vicar of christ'.
The Vatican has many men in their service, such as the Knights of Columbus. They do in fact run all the banks. The Rothschilds f.ex are papal knights..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_famil...
While the Jews do deny Christ so do all other religions. We are looking for the 'beast' of Daniel and Revelation and this is Rome's empire & church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of...
----

More on the Catholic Church -

http://www.wake-up.org/Alpha/Chapter10.htm

http://bible.cc/revelation/12-17.htm

http://bible.cc/revelation/14-12.htm

http://niv.scripturetext.com/exodus/20.htm

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436444 Apr 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Religion - A Delusion"
Read your Bible. You will see that GOD is AGAINST sexual impurity of ANY KIND.
Your god created sex, KNOWING it would be used every which way. And he carried on with his divine evil plan bringing it to its evil fruition.

I suggest you don't balk or criticize your god's evil will, as he holds all the power to smite you.

:)
marge

Ames, IA

#436445 Apr 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="marge"
Is this the verse your looking for?
And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]
**********
Thanks, Marge. That is part of it, but he goes further to say that God has no son. He was upset with the teaching of the day that put Jesus AND Mary up as part of the Godhead. He declares Jesus to be A prophets, but calls himself THE prophet of God.
Islam teaches that Jesus was good...but that Mohammed is THE prophet foretold in scripture. They declare that the Jews rewrote the scriptures and made Isaac the son that was offered by Abraham, rather than Ishmael.
KayMarie
From what i've been reading(googled), it seems there are contradictions in the koran about who Jesus is, and other things i'm sure;

There is no denying that the Quran rejects the Deity of Jesus (cf. 4:171; 5:17, 70-75; 9:30). But, as we just saw, the Quran attributes titles, qualities and functions to Christ which shows that he is indeed God. Other titles given to Christ which affirm his essential Deity include the Word of God and a Spirit from God (cf. 3:39, 45; 4:171).

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436446 Apr 30, 2013
People in religion are taught that it's of the utmost importance to believe in and worship a creator.

If there is a creator of love, that creator won't care if humans acknowledge its existence, as love is unconditional ... is it not?

And if that creator is not of the nature of love, no amount of worship or acknowledgment of its existence will guarantee protection from the wrath.

Not believing is as safe as believing.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436447 Apr 30, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
From what i've been reading(googled), it seems there are contradictions in the koran about who Jesus is, and other things i'm sure;
There is no denying that the Quran rejects the Deity of Jesus (cf. 4:171; 5:17, 70-75; 9:30). But, as we just saw, the Quran attributes titles, qualities and functions to Christ which shows that he is indeed God. Other titles given to Christ which affirm his essential Deity include the Word of God and a Spirit from God (cf. 3:39, 45; 4:171).
History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.

Muhammad and the Unfolding of Islam.

For quite a long time, Muhammad showed a certain sympathy toward the Christians:‘We are Christians,’ that, because some of them are priests and monks, and they wax not proud, and when they hear what has been sent down to the Messenger, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of the truth they recognize. They say:‘Our Lord, we believe, so do Thou write us down among the witnesses’”(5:85—90).

It was only after the conquest of Mecca, when he clashed with the resistance of the Syrian Christians, that Muhammad changed his attitude; of 9:29—35 (They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords apart from God and the Messiah, Mary’s son—and they were commanded to serve but one God”[9:31]).

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436448 Apr 30, 2013
It's fascinating that Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe that the one god serves only them.

Fools play to their own folly.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#436449 Apr 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Religion - A Delusion"
I want to be Catholic.
But I can't come to terms with why God would ever appoint an institution that openly honors child abuse enablers - for the purpose of bring "morality" to mankind.
When I stop feeling repulsed by child sex abuse, and when I stop feeling repulsed by how the Vatican honors Cardinal Law to this day -- then I will join the Catholic church.
After all, the Catholic church was appointed by God to teach us morality -- so child sex abuse must be OK and there is something wrong with me.
**********
Read your Bible. You will see that GOD is AGAINST sexual impurity of ANY KIND.
If you are opposed to child sex abuse, there is nothing wrong with you on that matter.
God is not an illusion, nor is He a delusion. All of HIS moral attitude is PURE. Find HIM...not a spiritual club.
KayMarie
I suppose you are correct.

If I'm opposed to child sex abuse and if I believe all of mankind's gods are imaginary -- then it doesn't make sense for me to become Catholic.

Maybe I'll become a vegetarian instead :o)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436450 Apr 30, 2013
Human logic is frequently not very wise.

June said:

"If there is a creator of love, that creator won't care if humans acknowledge its existence, as love is unconditional ... is it not?"

HOW COULD 'LOVE' NOT LOVE ???(not care)

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