Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 586628 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436269 Apr 29, 2013
Not one Catholic that I ever encountered has ventured to refer to Jesus the Jew as a Catholic saint.

Neither do they refer to him as a Jewish saint.

It's odd that one so revered would not hold the highest title of one or the other.

But that's what happened when the Catholics told their big lie, that a Jew was coming to save only those of the Catholic faith.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436270 Apr 29, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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Religion - A Delusion
Teaching and doing a moral act of good is always preferable to teaching and doing an immoral one.
Then why all the killing between the Catholics, Protestants and Muslims.

Are they immoral?
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#436271 Apr 29, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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There were two crimes.
1... child sex abuse
2... a systematic worldwide cover-up of child sex abuse
Local priests/abusers were not in charge of a worldwide cover-up.
Many catholics are still in denial. I understand, because this is one more moral lapse that further confirms that the "one true" claim is completely absurd.
God did not knowingly appoint and later guide this supposed one-true teacher of perfect morals in this immoral situation.
So either (1) God is fallible, or (2) the Catholic claim is absurd. It cannot be both.
Religion - A Delusion

Option 3 God's Goodness is greater than human beings ability to mess things up.

I agree, some Catholics, still have not come to terms with sex crimes of clergy, the shock, denial, and process of healing. Should they all be sent to hell because of this?

Have a little patience. Rome was not built in a day. Haha.
Clay

United States

#436272 Apr 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I AM WHOM GOD SAYS I AM ...AND YOUR OPINION CARRIES NO WEIGHT WITH HIM...
I STRIVE TO ABIDE IN CHRIST AND ALLOW HIM TO ABIDE IN ME.
I SIMPLY BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND I AM SAVED...
AS THE BIBLE SAYS...
Act_16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
YOU BELIEVE
THAT ONE HAS TO PERFORM A WHOLE CATECHISM OF CALISTHENICS, RITUALS
CEREMONIES ETC...
AND
AFTER PERFORMING ALL THE REQUIRED ACTIVITIES ...
A PERSONS SALVATION IS STILL IN QUESTION ..
___
AS FOR ME..... IN ANSWER TO YOU MEAN SPIRITED POST...
AS THE PSALMIST WROTE
Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?
Psa 116:13 I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD.
Excuse me, that wasn't a mean spirited post from me. I spoke the truth. You do bear false witness against Catholics and the Church...every single day. I know this because I'm on the receiving end of your false accusations.
Furthermore, you guys DO teach different then the Apostles on many serious doctrines. Mainly Sola Scripture. That wasn't taught by anyone until the reformation. You know that. You know Jesus never taught such a thing about the Bible. Why do you?
Eucharist, faith alone, Baptism .... there are many things you all have undid or added. Many notable Protestant Ministers have realized this in the last ten yrs. They converted rather than continue on with the deception required to be Protestant. You pretend your still right. You ignore truth - which is from God.

So, who is more at risk, an Atheist or you?
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#436273 Apr 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Let's play the game of the theologians.
If he preached that people had to be of the Catholic faith to be saved, then he was not at all a Jew.
I suggest you don't play games with the son of the one and only Creator who happens to this day to be Jewish. He could become very angry and you know how gods are when they get angry.
Now once again ... do you believe that as all the apostles, and Mary were Catholic saints ... that Jesus also ranked as a Catholic saint?
Note the word "Catholic" before the word saint.
June VanDerMark:

Please don't get angry with me.

But I don't understand your question.

Can you tell me what you mean "Catholic" saint?

Do you mean someone cannonized, as part of the RCC?

(To my understanding, saints exist because of Jesus, and the RCC does as well.)

By the way, I read a lot of spiritual writings of those martyred in the name of the RCC.
Clay

United States

#436274 Apr 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Not one Catholic that I ever encountered has ventured to refer to Jesus the Jew as a Catholic saint.
Neither do they refer to him as a Jewish saint.
It's odd that one so revered would not hold the highest title of one or the other.
But that's what happened when the Catholics told their big lie, that a Jew was coming to save only those of the Catholic faith.
You don't know enough about Catholicism and Judaism to even have an opinion on it. You see: the titles: "Jesus was a Jew" and "Pope Francis is a Gentle" then you run off in a frenzy.
The smart thing to do if you're trying to bring down the Catholic Church is get to know your opponent. Figure out what they actually believe and why; where it came from and how.

Right now you see words like Jew and Catholic and draw assumptions that do not make sense.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#436275 Apr 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Then she was not a non-clergical doctor as you first indicated. She very much was a Catholic indoctrinated member of the clergy.
She had to be, or they would not have canonized her as a Catholic saint.
June VanDerMark:

Not to get to technical, but Catherine of Siena was not a member of the clergy, she was a lay person who followed the teachings of Dominic. The term Doctor of the Church, means Teacher.

Very technically, she was not a Roman Catholic, because such a name did not exist in her time, and Christianity was simply called Catholic(Universal) Church.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436276 Apr 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse me, that wasn't a mean spirited post from me. I spoke the truth. You do bear false witness against Catholics and the Church...every single day. I know this because I'm on the receiving end of your false accusations.
Furthermore, you guys DO teach different then the Apostles on many serious doctrines. Mainly Sola Scripture. That wasn't taught by anyone until the reformation. You know that. You know Jesus never taught such a thing about the Bible. Why do you?
Eucharist, faith alone, Baptism .... there are many things you all have undid or added. Many notable Protestant Ministers have realized this in the last ten yrs. They converted rather than continue on with the deception required to be Protestant. You pretend your still right. You ignore truth - which is from God.
So, who is more at risk, an Atheist or you?
~~~

YOU WROTE

"So, who is more at risk, an Atheist or you?"

SINCE YOU ASK

I would say an infidel such as yourself is on the same level as the atheist..

THE ATHEIST CLAIMS HE DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD..

YOU AND YOUR RELIGIOUS SYSTEM TEACH A DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PLAN OF SALVATION, having laced it with paganism dogma cat-teach ism and
sundry calisthenics of foreign origin...

Ella

Rockford, MI

#436277 Apr 29, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Just like the parents of some of the 9/11 terrorists still refuse to believe that their children were involved.
Many Catholics still refuse to believe that the worldwide abuse cover-up showed a lack of morality.
The Catholic church put its welfare ahead of the welfare of thousands of child sex victims.
That is immoral, plain and simple -- to anyone except a catholic.
RE: The SEXUAL ABUSE scandal: The Vatican has all of these parish priests exposed for their sexual crimes against innocent children they were entrusted to shepherd and train up in the ways of the Lord. The Vatican comes up with a 'brilliant' solution: 1) rather than removing the perpetrators of the sexual abuse, you simply move them to another parish and what? hope they don't get caught the next time. 2) to address damage control you erect billboards and sign s,and take out ads in newspapers telling former Catholics,'come back and we will welcome you with open arms', Come on!! How stupid do you think people really are? People don't want to attend churches were their family members may be at risk. Trust has been broken. Integrity has been stripped away. The veil of deception still remains. And what about the innocent lives of those children (some now adults) whom your priests committed those sexual crimes against? Did you think your 'hush money' to the victims will undo the grievous physical, emotional, social, financial and spiritual WOUNDS they must now bare (some for the rest of their lives)? Lastly, what about the gospel message? Don't you think that the Vatican's solutions and their priests actions have mocked God and His Word and branded those Catholics who are seriously embracing their belief and walk with the Lord? Not to mention those currently in seminary. How does the Vatican justify and rationalize this? How will priests now address their contributions to society's ills from their pulpits? These are grievous WOUNDS committed against God, man, local communities and society at large! They cannot be swept under the rug.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#436278 Apr 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll make it simple for you.
Anyone who did not follow the dogma of the popes, which incidentally changed with each pope ... was imprisoned, tortured and/or put to death.
If that simple enough for you?
June VanDerMark:

Anyone?

Earth isn't the Garden of Eden. I have generally found, the closer one is to the truth, the more it upsets people, and especially those in power.

To be honest, I do not know who, or how many were imprisoned, tortured, and/or put to death.

If a thousand Christians do something wrong, the world makes a big deal.
If a million people in the world do something wrong, its hardly even mentioned.

History is written, and rewritten, I don't believe in modern news, why should I believe in history?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#436279 Apr 29, 2013
Human Being wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion - A Delusion
Option 3 God's Goodness is greater than human beings ability to mess things up.
I agree, some Catholics, still have not come to terms with sex crimes of clergy, the shock, denial, and process of healing. Should they all be sent to hell because of this?
Have a little patience. Rome was not built in a day. Haha.
None of us are perfect.

And no, no Catholic should be sent to Biblical Hell, nor should any other person.

Furthermore, I don't believe anyone should fall short in any way based on their culture.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#436280 Apr 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why all the killing between the Catholics, Protestants and Muslims.
Are they immoral?
June VanDerMark:

The collision of ideas, and cultures.

The greed, lust for power of idealogues, and avarice of materialists.

Ignorance.

Its the way of the world.

All quite explosive, and deadly.

Its good there are so many looking for good.
Human Being

Sunset, LA

#436281 Apr 29, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
None of us are perfect.
And no, no Catholic should be sent to Biblical Hell, nor should any other person.
Furthermore, I don't believe anyone should fall short in any way based on their culture.
Religion - A Delusion

I agree, none of us are perfect. But can we strive for, or, be made perfect?

You bring up in both sentences the word "should". That is a judgemental call. Since we are all in the world, living in time, it is hard to be objective, from an eternal stance (though most of us have a sense of eternity) to make such a judgement.

At the same time it is a hope and prayer, by people of faith that all live in eternity in peace and joy. Such a state of being is called "blessed". Jesus' first teaching in Matthew were on being blessed. They are known as the Beatitudes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436282 Apr 29, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
Its good there are so many looking for good.
Did they have to have a religion to make them search for what was "good" or right, and if so, why all the religious wars?

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436283 Apr 29, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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History is written, and rewritten, I don't believe in modern news, why should I believe in history?
So much for your bible ... as you thrown in the trash can.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436284 Apr 29, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
Not to get to technical, but Catherine of Siena was not a member of the clergy, she was a lay person who followed the teachings of Dominic. The term Doctor of the Church, means Teacher.
Very technically, she was not a Roman Catholic, because such a name did not exist in her time, and Christianity was simply called Catholic(Universal) Church.
Now you are double-talking.

Catholics were the only ones that could canonize her as a Catholic saint.

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436285 Apr 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know enough about Catholicism and Judaism to even have an opinion on it. You see: the titles: "Jesus was a Jew" and "Pope Francis is a Gentle" then you run off in a frenzy.
The smart thing to do if you're trying to bring down the Catholic Church is get to know your opponent. Figure out what they actually believe and why; where it came from and how.
Right now you see words like Jew and Catholic and draw assumptions that do not make sense.
June VanDerMark wrote:
Not one Catholic that I ever encountered has ventured to refer to Jesus the Jew as a Catholic saint.
Neither do they refer to him as a Jewish saint.
It's odd that one so revered would not hold the highest title of one or the other.
But that's what happened when the Catholics told their big lie, that a Jew was coming to save only those of the Catholic faith.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#436286 Apr 29, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I suggest that "ministering" to others in the name of one or another deity is definitely (from watching the television evangelists such as Benny Hinn) a high-flying pastime, but it can and has deleterious after-affects that are nothing of which to be proud.
I might suggest something or other to you ... but I will never suggest to you that a deity supports my idea and commands that I go preach my idea to others of the world.
From my perspective that is way out in la-la land.
Its more than just a past time. Ask the people following these pastors if they have had serious issues in their life most will say yes.

The ones who think for themselves and make rational decisions, usually don't have personal problems and really have no use for someone else (preachers) telling them how they should live their lives.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#436287 Apr 29, 2013
I Cor. Chapter 3

In Corinth the Christians were affected by divided loyalties. One said he was of Apollos, another declared that he was of Paul.

Paul said that he and Apollos planted and watered, but God gave the increase. We (all of us) are laborers together WITH GOD. We, he said, are God's 'husbandry'(keepers of God's field). Therefore LET NO MAN GLORY IN MAN.

For other foundation can NO MAN lay than that is laid, which is JESUS CHRIST. Eph.1:22 (God) has put ALL things under his feet, and gave HIM to be the HEAD over all things to the church; which is HIS body, the fullness of HIM that filleth all in all.

Whose 'head' is on YOUR body??? The head of the church is Christ. Ministries in the church are given by Jesus for the purpose of perfecting the church; for building up His body. Eph.4:11-15
Even as the organs in your body work together to perfect it, we are to minister health to the body of Christ...to each other.

I Cor. 3 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; ALL ARE YOURS; AND YOU ARE CHRIST'S, AND CHRIST IS GOD'S.

KayMarie

Since: Sep 09

Fraser Lake, Canada

#436288 Apr 29, 2013
Human Being wrote:
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June VanDerMark:
Please don't get angry with me.
But I don't understand your question.
Can you tell me what you mean "Catholic" saint?
Do you mean someone cannonized, as part of the RCC?
YES ... why didn't they canonize Jesus as a Catholic saint? After all they claim he authorized the new religion. Why did the Jewish apostles, Jewish Mary, and Jewish Peter the first supposed pope all become canonized as saints ... yet the Jewish founder of the religions wasn't put up by the hierarchy for sainthood?

WHY???

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