Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Clay

United States

#435870 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You are very silly ... but do carry on and make a fool out of your self.
For better or worse the Catholics compiled all the data for the new testament, on which all Protestants do their banking as they milk the scriptures dry for their own hopes that a Jew will save Protestants ... while barring Catholics and Jews and people in all other religions from entrance through the pearly gates.
Stupid people!!!
You're way more evangelical than most evangelicals. Obviously on opposite ends of the spectrum.
I think there is something else going on in your brain than a simple lack of belief in God. I see you modern atheist acting just like fanatical religious folk.
Keep preaching June! You'll reach 70,000 posts by May!
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#435871 Apr 27, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I figured June to be a woman?
Well,first of all Ella,I live in Rockford, Illinois.
No doubt there are Rockfords in various states.
June is on another thread,where she or he reigns supreme.sounds like June wants to be the only one on this thread as well.That is not going to happen to soon.
She has way to much time on her hands. Or she has listened to Bill Mahers to long... he never has anything nice to say about any one either. Must be a nightmare living with someone like that.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#435872 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
I'd rather spend time watching a monkey pick his nose than I would spend time listening to preachers blather nonsense ... although I must admit, this con-artist has a spiel that is at least different than some of the droning-on preachers I suffered in my day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1XcDTKoWxWQXX
Oh he is like you June, loves to hear himself talk that is all.
When your not posting other peoples thoughts.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#435873 Apr 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
754
<quoted text>
I asked you, a self-professed ex-Protestant, who came into "true Salvation", the "fullness of the faith" and the "fullness of the truth" in Jesus Christ---in and through HIS One (and only one) True Apostolic Catholic Church!!!---the bride of Christ, to show, as you falsely accused me, in the Scripture I quoted, the lies in that Scripture, and the lies in my comments supported by this Scripture. You fell flat on your face!!!!!
BTW:
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God.
Don't sound to me like the Catholic denomination is the bride of Christ!!!!
I requested, also, that you show me, as you, again, falsely accused me, in the same Scripture I quoted, where did I misinterpret it, misrepresented it, and misused it, thereby deceiving others as they deceive themselves---by distorting the TRUTH!!! You,again, fell flat on your face!!!!
You do not speak the truth...but instead, as is typical of Catholics, you regurgitate the swill you so willing guzzle that comes to you from the vatacan.
Since you are "on a roll"...lets continue...
2. Catholics do worship idols...I know..been there..done that..CNN showed a video of that happening....in color and stereo!!!!
idol: a material effigy that is worshipped; "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" (Applicable to Mary and all other idols of "saints" as practiced by Catholics)
effigy: A likeness or image, especially of a person. Symbolically, especially in the form of an effigy.(Applicable to Mary and dead "saints" as practiced by Catholics)
worship:
If you want, I think I still have the web site shown on CNN where a statute of Mary, supposedly was, as I recall, bleeding tears, with about forty people, in color and stereo, praying the rosary to her!!!!!!
You "conveniently" insert the word "Catholic" in the book of Revelations or in any other bible passages, "where-ever and when-ever" it will precisely (fit) your anti-catholic "editorialized personal opinion".... I know the bible only Protestant "game" all too well, in dealing with people like you Ox!...It is a bible verse cafeteria style selecting of picking and choosing verses, then adding "your own" protestant propaganda, i.e.(graven image, idol worship) garbage interpretation to it, that is based upon an "ingrained, vindictive and hostile attitude toward "ANYTHING" that the Catholic Church teaches or believes!..Quite frankly "I couldn't care less" as to what you believe, Ox< regarding Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church. I/we as Catholics on this forum, as well as the over 1 Billion Catholics around the world, already know, believe, worship, adhere to and accept (without a doubt) the TRUTH that Jesus Christ intiated,established and formed HIS own TRUE CHURCH over 2000 years ago,(long before the bible, was even written in 397AD) the same bible that you "propagadize and editorialize",(to your own destruction). CNN, the liberal mainstream media, ABC, NBC or your local editorial newspaper are a joke!! They are as anti-catholic as you are OX!! For all I care, you can "continue" to play your "bible only" (Catholic bashing) merry-go-round circus game! It makes no difference to me! I/we as Catholics will continue to stick to the biblical and historical TRUTH of Jesus Christ, with Daily Mass, the Eucharist,the OT,NT (Gospel readings) the other Sacraments, and the Adoration Prayer Chapel (each day) praying for your "misguided, condemning and judgemntal soul. You can believe and do what you want!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#435874 Apr 27, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
754
<quoted text>
I asked you, a self-professed ex-Protestant, who came into "true Salvation", the "fullness of the faith" and the "fullness of the truth" in Jesus Christ---in and through HIS One (and only one) True Apostolic Catholic Church!!!---the bride of Christ, to show, as you falsely accused me, in the Scripture I quoted, the lies in that Scripture, and the lies in my comments supported by this Scripture. You fell flat on your face!!!!!
BTW:
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God.
Don't sound to me like the Catholic denomination is the bride of Christ!!!!
I requested, also, that you show me, as you, again, falsely accused me, in the same Scripture I quoted, where did I misinterpret it, misrepresented it, and misused it, thereby deceiving others as they deceive themselves---by distorting the TRUTH!!! You,again, fell flat on your face!!!!
You do not speak the truth...but instead, as is typical of Catholics, you regurgitate the swill you so willing guzzle that comes to you from the vatacan.
Since you are "on a roll"...lets continue...
2. Catholics do worship idols...I know..been there..done that..CNN showed a video of that happening....in color and stereo!!!!
idol: someone who is adored blindly and excessively (Applicable to Mary and dead "saints" as practiced by Catholics)
idol: a material effigy that is worshipped; "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" (Applicable to Mary and all other i
effigy: A likeness or image, especially of a person. Symbolically, especially in the form of an effigy.(Applicable to Mary and dead
If you want, I think I still have the web site shown on CNN where a statute of Mary, supposedly was, as I recall, bleeding tears, with about forty people, in color and stereo, praying the rosary to her!!!!!!
You "conveniently" insert the word "Catholic" in the book of Revelations or in any other bible passages, "where-ever and when-ever" it will precisely (fit) your anti-catholic "editorialized personal opinion".... I know the bible only Protestant "game" all too well, in dealing with people like you Ox!...It is a bible verse cafeteria style selecting of picking and choosing verses, then adding "your own" protestant propaganda, i.e.(graven image, idol worship) garbage interpretation to it, that is based upon an "ingrained, vindictive and hostile attitude toward "ANYTHING" that the Catholic Church teaches or believes!..Quite frankly "I couldn't care less" as to what you believe, Ox< regarding Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church. I/we as Catholics on this forum, as well as the over 1 Billion Catholics around the world, already know, believe, worship, adhere to and accept (without a doubt) the TRUTH that Jesus Christ intiated,established and formed HIS own TRUE CHURCH over 2000 years ago,(long before the bible, was even written in 397AD) the same bible that you "propagadize and editorialize",(to your own destruction). CNN, the liberal mainstream media, ABC, NBC or your local editorial newspaper are a joke!! They are as anti-catholic as you are OX!! For all I care, you can "continue" to play your "bible only" (Catholic bashing) merry-go-round circus game! It makes no difference to me! I/we as Catholics will continue to stick to the biblical and historical TRUTH of Jesus Christ, with Daily Mass, the Eucharist,the OT,NT (Gospel readings) the other Sacraments, and the Adoration Prayer Chapel (each day) praying for your "misguided, condemning and judgemntal soul. You can believe and do what you want!!!
truth

Perth, Australia

#435875 Apr 27, 2013
truth

Perth, Australia

#435876 Apr 27, 2013
http://biblia.com/bible/esv/John%2016.13
its pure
did you sold your soul to whom..
guard your heart
proverb 4;23
now is mind
http://bible.cc/ephesians/1-18.htm
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#435877 Apr 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
I already what your fanatical opinion is on Christianity. That's not what I asked you. Don't run from the question.
Where does Christ tell us which Books are Biblical? And where do the Apostles tell us to follow the Bible (as the sole authority on Our Lords Ministry) the way you do??
Simple questions Soc. Where is sola scripture???

You were answered. We read this cover to cover; it is in the book you do not read thus do not know what it says.

Amos 8:11 "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:"
-
There are no Christian 'fanatics' as Catholics like to claim. It is either Biblical or it is not. The Bible says the roman Church is the harlot false religion and that is not a fanatical reading rather established scholarly doctrine and history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of...


Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#435878 Apr 27, 2013
874
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You "conveniently" insert the word "Catholic" in the book of Revelations or in any other bible passages, "where-ever and when-ever" it will precisely (fit) your anti-catholic "editorialized personal opinion".... I know the bible only Protestant "game" all too well, in dealing with people like you Ox!...It is a bible verse cafeteria style selecting of picking and choosing verses, then adding "your own" protestant propaganda, i.e.(graven image, idol worship) garbage interpretation to it, that is based upon an "ingrained, vindictive and hostile attitude toward "ANYTHING" that the Catholic Church teaches or believes!..Quite frankly "I couldn't care less" as to what you believe, Ox< regarding Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church. I/we as Catholics on this forum, as well as the over 1 Billion Catholics around the world, already know, believe, worship, adhere to and accept (without a doubt) the TRUTH that Jesus Christ intiated,established and formed HIS own TRUE CHURCH over 2000 years ago,(long before the bible, was even written in 397AD) the same bible that you "propagadize and editorialize",(to your own destruction). CNN, the liberal mainstream media, ABC, NBC or your local editorial newspaper are a joke!! They are as anti-catholic as you are OX!! For all I care, you can "continue" to play your "bible only" (Catholic bashing) merry-go-round circus game! It makes no difference to me! I/we as Catholics will continue to stick to the biblical and historical TRUTH of Jesus Christ, with Daily Mass, the Eucharist,the OT,NT (Gospel readings) the other Sacraments, and the Adoration Prayer Chapel (each day) praying for your "misguided, condemning and judgemntal soul. You can believe and do what you want!!!
That is enough JD Black Label for you!!!! I got your first message...don't need a duplicate...please...don't need a third copy!!!!!

Since: Mar 11

Melbourne, Australia

#435879 Apr 27, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
tell me ms. June VanDerMark,what are your thoughts of ancient aliens,that supposedly visited earth thousands of years ago,there is somewhat of actual proof that it is quite possible it happened,going by drawings,artifacts of flying objects,and people/aliens that do not look like the people of that time period,small spaceship looking artifacts were found made out of gold,how is that possible since the idea of flight probably never enter the minds of men going back 5000+ yrs ago? and the famous painting of the maddona with child,in the left corner is the sun,in the right corner is a man standing on a small hill pointing at what clearly shows a flying disc. did someone come to this planet and teach man how to survive? or were we put here by these people/aliens as an experiment? the acomplishments of the time period do not seem possible,a perfectly flat mountain top that was carved out in south america, with carvings dug into to them that only make sense when seen from the sky,and the pyramids so perfectly fitted together you can barely slide a piece of paper in between the stones,how is that possible with the "primitive tools" they had to work with in that time period? for the record i do believe we are not alone,the universe is just to large and to many planets exist that we can not be the only ones inhabitting it,steven hawking stated the universe is at least 500 billion square miles,and there are billions of planets,galaxies out there,some that started probably millions of years before man evolved,and these inahabitants are far more advanced than we are,and would it really be a good thing for man to meet an interact with these people/aliens?? if there is life out there would love to know before my time expires.
That was a fantastic poem by June Vandermark. It brought me to tears of love, and joy.
Aliens didn't build the pyramids. There is far too much evidence it was man. The man of that time was brilliant with his tools and abilities. There are tool marks on the massive stones. They knew how to push and pull things they were much skilled in masonry, compared too today.
Man did dream of flying 5000 years ago, just as the first people to fly did. We look to the sky an see a bird and think I wish I could do that.
Someone saw a log floating down a river, hay there's a bird standing on it, I want to do that. There's your first boat.
Were animals we never needed aliens to "teach" us to survive, who or what showed that lion how to survive? It's mother.
Though without doubt I believe there are other's out there, I never have believed they built pyramids for our dead Kings!
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#435880 Apr 28, 2013
Kentucky woman ordained as priest in defiance of Roman Catholic Church
www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/28/us-usa-rel...

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435881 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities Ö A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.
Has a pope ever been born out of wedlock?
Only two illegitimate children ever reached the papal throne; Pope John XI, who reigned from March 931 to December 935, and Clement VII, a member of the Medici family who stayed in office from November 1523 to September 1534.
i have a book that might interest you:what does the bible say about 500 real life topics.the ultimate AtoZ resource fully illustrated,contemporary topics one would not expect to find in the bible. published by thomas nelson inc. nashville,tennessee.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435882 Apr 28, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="jethro8" look i get your point,but it does not fit this situation,we are talking about a new born baby,that was born with a birth defect,not a serious one,but none the less the child has it and if god is the creator of life, he gave this child the illness,for some reason he thought it necessary to give this child a sisability,why? the child obviously has done nothing wrong, so why do this to him? or any child?
**********
God doesn't 'give disabilities' to anyone. All such things are the result of something people do. Drugs the mother takes, disease, etc.
KM
not knowing the mother i can't say if it's drug induced or not,i'm speaking biblically,and as i stated, god is the creator of every one of us,and how we come out of the womb is his doing.and if there was a drug induced problem,god could of fixed it before the baby was born,after all he can do anything.his power is unlimited.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435883 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you insinuating that every baby born with problems stems from parents that didn't behave in a proper way?
That is a very archaic attitude.
My guess is, cells simply do their own things and that means humans are often surprised by differences in cell formations.
you have a good point,children were born with defects way before the drug craze took hold.the only drug out there at the time was opium,which started in china,opium dens were very popular there and in the u.s..marijiuana was not widely used back then like it is today,and most of the drugs out today did not exist a few decades ago.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435884 Apr 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What Books does Jesus say are the scriptures?
In the time of Jesus, every Jewish sect had a different canon of Books they considered Sacred Scripture. God never told them what set of Books are the Bible.
You teach a new and strange doctrine, that the Bible is the foundation of Christianity, when the Apostle Paul says the CHURCH is. Why is that?
You see Catholics kneeling in front of a statue, and falsely teach that we think its a diety; an idol. Why?
Do you see how I could never take you seriously?
clay:You see Catholics kneeling in front of a statue, and falsely teach that we think its a diety; an idol. Why? JETHRO:if it's not what you say it is,then what is it and why would you be kneeling in front of it and praying??......the truth is they are statues/idols created by the catholic church for profit reasons,that is why they changed the commandments,to make it ok to buy them,for it is forbidden to do what the church teaches,it says so in the true commandments,but to pay homage to their real god (the god of dead presidents)they changed things without devine authority.

Since: Mar 11

Melbourne, Australia

#435885 Apr 28, 2013
The amount of times I have heard that babies are born defected because the parents have done something wrong! If this were how you got deformation then we would all have obvious defects.
I believe chemicals massively affect our chromosomes, probably a lot more than any smoke of marijuana or opium would do to a baby.
Have you seen what the use of depleted uranium does to babies; this world is full of stuff that hurts us, and the Governments are perfectly ok with it all it seems.
truth

Perth, Australia

#435886 Apr 28, 2013
poor people have that program very sad accusation..
or corupt gowerment within under order about who?..

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435887 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Horrible history, as the bully-pope Gregory VII destroyed countless marriages and ended lives by throwing tantrums to get his own way.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
From the book "The History Of Christianity ... The Church from the Reformation to the Present, Volume 2, by Clyde L. Manschreck ... comes the following.
Dedicated to the austere ideals of Cluny, Gregory sought to enforce clerical celibacy not only as a purer state but as a means of freeing the church from the world. In1074 he prohibited future marriages and ordered married priests to dismiss their wives or give up reading mass. Clerical marriage from his viewpoint was no better than fornication. Laymen were urged not to take the sacraments from such guilty priests. Havoc resulted. Priests were insulted, tortured; some were driven to suicide, some even murdered. Legal wives became harlots, and legitimate children, bastards. But Gregory moved relentlessly forward, unseating bishops who opposed him, especially in the north. He enforced clerical celibacy, but at a great price and without permanence, for at the time of the Reformation in the sixteenth century the church was licensing clerical concubines and taxing the children of bishops.
it's ok for him to do what he pleases, he is devinely guided by god/jesus.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#435889 Apr 28, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
You were answered. We read this cover to cover; it is in the book you do not read thus do not know what it says.
Amos 8:11 "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:"
-
There are no Christian 'fanatics' as Catholics like to claim. It is either Biblical or it is not. The Bible says the roman Church is the harlot false religion and that is not a fanatical reading rather established scholarly doctrine and history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of...
Now you're saying "the Bible says the Roman CHURCH is the Harlot false religion"??
The truth is that it doesn't say it. Any reference to Rome is speaking of the Pagan Roman Empire- which we successfully converted. It was a miraculous victory that only could have come from above.
But I asked you a question and you still will not answer it.
You say Christians follow the Bible. I asked what Books?? I have 73 in my Bible, you have 66.
Where does Christ or His Apostles teach us which Books to put into a Bible and use those as the sole authority on the Ministry of Jesus Christ??

It must be there for you to teach what you do. You can't just make up a title about the Holy Scriptures, and tell everyone it is fact.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#435890 Apr 28, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
874
<quoted text>
That is enough JD Black Label for you!!!! I got your first message...don't need a duplicate...please...don't need a third copy!!!!!
Maybe a third copy "just might-----possibly penetrate that anti-catholic "polluted" mind, heart and soul, that has "infected and corrupted" you!!!!

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