Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Jul 10, 2007 Read more: CBC News 582,869
The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435891 Apr 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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lol. You may intimidate your ex-girlfriend and ex-dog (who made the right decisions BTW), but I'd be happy to have a private conversation with you tough guy. Thanks for the kind words about my grandson.
and for the record she didn't make the right decission, due to the loss of my income to her,she is falling behind on her bills and mortgage,if she has no place to go or rents a place that does not allow pets,i get the dog, since i own half of it,and i don't have to put up with her paranoid,over controlling attitude she developed out of spite because under doctors orders,he doesn't want me working,and that really bothered her because she wants out of her job so bad,she was taking her frustrations out on me. i'm not happy being out of work,everything i own i worked for,never had anything handed to me,been working since i was 12,mowing lawns,then delivering newspapers,then a part time after school job working for a cleaning company,from there full time jobs,up until feburary when i went to see my doctor,he walked in stood looking at me for a minute and bluntly said "you look like hell",i lost 35 lbs. in less than 3 months he was concerned about a possible underliying problem,been going through scans, blood tests, bone marrow tests,spinal tap,and they sent it to the cdc in georgia,i don't have any tumors so they are stymied why i can't put weight on,i eat 4000 calories a day and i have only gained 5 lbs,should be a lot higher,been lifting weights to help put some weight on. so in short, life is good :)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435892 Apr 28, 2013
Ruth Karras, author of Common Women: prostitution and sexuality in medieval England, discusses how some bishops ran and owned brothels in England during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.“Ecclesiastical institutions and individuals owned brothels . Several individual clerics also managed brothels in London and Westminster.” She mentions also that they were not only owners, but many were clients as well. Karras is not the only one to show that the clergy were clients of prostitutes.“ in the cases of procuration and brawling in the brothel or the bathhouse, members of the clergy are listed as present, named and given as residents of the city , clergy still made up twenty per cent of the clientele of the bathhouses and the private bordellos of Dijon.”

Not only was the Church involved in ownership, but in France during the mid thirteenth century, they accepted alms from prostitutes.“In accepting the prostitute’s alms, the Church recognized that she had acted out of necessity.” The Church supported this institution because they believed it to be a necessity. They owned and ran brothels, accepted money from prostitutes, and used Mary Magdalene as an example of a prostitute who redeemed herself by repenting. Many were tolerant of prostitutes by acknowledging them as a future Mary Magdalene.

The church followed the philosophy regarding prostitution as a “necessary evil” and often participated in it, since it had been justified. The medieval public followed the same philosophy. They kept and welcomed prostitution into their communities.

JETHRO:i'm not surprised at all about this.anything for a buck.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435893 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't need to be saved. Rumor has it that the deity gave us free will, and that means when we cross over, we will just ask whichever deity is in charge if we can go the side of the holy ones and reap the reward of eternal bliss, and the deity will be obliged to give us that free will.
I started teaching that free-will class just the other day, and already the money is rolling in.
:)
my choice would be anywhere there is a pond loaded with fish so i can spend eternity fishing,what else is there to do in heaven? and what will we look like when we get there? example,if you become parilyzed from the neck down,do you spend eternity like that? or does god make us young an healthy or do you stay as you are when you die?
Clay

Jersey City, NJ

#435894 Apr 28, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
Ruth Karras, author of Common Women: prostitution and sexuality in medieval England, discusses how some bishops ran and owned brothels in England during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.“Ecclesiastical institutions and individuals owned brothels . Several individual clerics also managed brothels in London and Westminster.” She mentions also that they were not only owners, but many were clients as well. Karras is not the only one to show that the clergy were clients of prostitutes.“ in the cases of procuration and brawling in the brothel or the bathhouse, members of the clergy are listed as present, named and given as residents of the city , clergy still made up twenty per cent of the clientele of the bathhouses and the private bordellos of Dijon.”
Not only was the Church involved in ownership, but in France during the mid thirteenth century, they accepted alms from prostitutes.“In accepting the prostitute’s alms, the Church recognized that she had acted out of necessity.” The Church supported this institution because they believed it to be a necessity. They owned and ran brothels, accepted money from prostitutes, and used Mary Magdalene as an example of a prostitute who redeemed herself by repenting. Many were tolerant of prostitutes by acknowledging them as a future Mary Magdalene.
The church followed the philosophy regarding prostitution as a “necessary evil” and often participated in it, since it had been justified. The medieval public followed the same philosophy. They kept and welcomed prostitution into their communities.
JETHRO:i'm not surprised at all about this.anything for a buck.
You're an idiot. Ruth writes a piece with no proof and you call it historic fact.
You searched for something to smear the Catholic Church with; it doesn't matter if its true or not; then you 'put it out there' to feel better about yourself for rejecting Christ.
You remind me how I indeed belong to the only Church started by Jesus Christ- Himself the victim of slander and lies.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#435895 Apr 28, 2013


NEW POPE - OLD PROPHECY BY PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435896 Apr 28, 2013
The Catholic Church did allow prostitution. St. Augustine said that prostitution should be tolerated because men would seek sex outside of marriage anyway. He said that prostitution would prevent them from resorting to more perverted activities.

Also in medieval times prostitution many Western European towns had brothels licensed by municipal authorities. Since the Catholic Church was the only church in Western Europe back then, this suggests that the church also tolerated prostitution.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435897 Apr 28, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot. Ruth writes a piece with no proof and you call it historic fact.
You searched for something to smear the Catholic Church with; it doesn't matter if its true or not; then you 'put it out there' to feel better about yourself for rejecting Christ.
You remind me how I indeed belong to the only Church started by Jesus Christ- Himself the victim of slander and lies.
Slandering you AND Jesus?

That's rich. You and god are bros.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435898 Apr 28, 2013
In the Middle Ages the Christian church, which valued chastity, attempted to convert or rehabilitate individual prostitutes but refrained from campaigning against the institution itself. In so doing the church followed the teaching of St. Augustine, who held that the elimination of prostitution would breed even worse forms of immorality and perversion, because men would continue to seek sexual contact outside marriage. By the late Middle Ages, prostitution had reached a high point in Western history. Licensed brothels flourished throughout Europe, yielding enormous revenues to government officials and corrupt churchmen....During the 16th century prostitution declined sharply in Europe, largely as the result of stern reprisals by Protestants and Roman Catholics. They condemned the immorality of brothels and their inmates, but they were also motivated by the perception of a connection between prostitution and an outbreak of syphilis, a previously unknown disease. Brothels in many cities were closed by the authorities. Under a typical ordinance, enacted in Paris in 1635, prostitutes were flogged, shaved bald, and exiled for life without formal trial.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#435899 Apr 28, 2013
.In medieval Europe, the Catholic Church not only condoned prostitution, but allowed it to be run out of the monasteries and convents. The phrase, "get thee to a nunnery" had nothing to do with a convent of "nuns" but rather the "nunnery" was a brothel. The exhortation was given to young men to keep them from trying to corrupt the virgin daughters of the townspeople.

In 1254, King Louis IX of France, decreed that all prostitutes be regarded as outlaws after it was discovered that a Parisian prostitute sat next to the queen of France in Church, and the queen, as was her custom, bestowed a kiss on her.When the identity of the woman reached the ears of the king, he decided that the only way to prevent future incidents was to outlaw prostitution throughout his kingdom....

"Prostitution: An Illustrated Social History " Vern&Bonnie Bullough/ Crown Books 1978
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435900 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.
According to Columbus’s calculations, the end of the world was due to occur in 155 years.
The end is near.

Time for all true Xians to shed their worldly wealth

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64209/cathol...
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435901 Apr 28, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
In the Middle Ages the Christian church, which valued chastity, attempted to convert or rehabilitate individual prostitutes but refrained from campaigning against the institution itself. In so doing the church followed the teaching of St. Augustine, who held that the elimination of prostitution would breed even worse forms of immorality and perversion, because men would continue to seek sexual contact outside marriage. By the late Middle Ages, prostitution had reached a high point in Western history. Licensed brothels flourished throughout Europe, yielding enormous revenues to government officials and corrupt churchmen....During the 16th century prostitution declined sharply in Europe, largely as the result of stern reprisals by Protestants and Roman Catholics. They condemned the immorality of brothels and their inmates, but they were also motivated by the perception of a connection between prostitution and an outbreak of syphilis, a previously unknown disease. Brothels in many cities were closed by the authorities. Under a typical ordinance, enacted in Paris in 1635, prostitutes were flogged, shaved bald, and exiled for life without formal trial.
Jeth writes... "... the teaching of St. Augustine, who held that the elimination of prostitution would breed even worse forms of immorality and perversion."

Good old St Augustine --

“Women should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should, in fact, be segregated as they are the cause of hideous and involuntary erections in holy men.”

This explains much about the backwardness of the catholic world.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435902 Apr 28, 2013
More timeless words from St. Augustine, greatest church daddy...

"There is another form of temptation, even more fraught with danger. This is the disease of curiosity. It is this which drives us to try and discover the secrets of nature, those secrets which are beyond our understanding, which can avail us nothing and which man should not wish to learn."
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435903 Apr 28, 2013
Anyone can pick the wise quotes of a great leader, while ignoring the not-so-wise quotes.

In doing so, someone like Stalin can be glorified through his own words.

Selective memories are helpful in creating and maintaining myths.

In the end, there is no evidence for any other god except the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#435904 Apr 28, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Jeth writes... "... the teaching of St. Augustine, who held that the elimination of prostitution would breed even worse forms of immorality and perversion."
Good old St Augustine --
“Women should not be enlightened or educated in any way. They should, in fact, be segregated as they are the cause of hideous and involuntary erections in holy men.”
This explains much about the backwardness of the catholic world.
It was the same type of boorish-minded men that compiled the data of the new testament, and the only reason Augustine was put on a pedestal as a wise theologian, is that he agreed with the boorish mental gibberish of the boorish-minded popes.
Clay

Jersey City, NJ

#435905 Apr 28, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
Anyone can pick the wise quotes of a great leader, while ignoring the not-so-wise quotes.
In doing so, someone like Stalin can be glorified through his own words.
Selective memories are helpful in creating and maintaining myths.
In the end, there is no evidence for any other god except the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Then why are you on here, debunking something you equate to a 'flying spaghetti monster'??
Who does that?

You insecure Atheists/Agnostics crack me up. You're more persistent than typical Evangelical fanatical Christians!
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#435906 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
A History of Religious Ideas, by Mircea Eliade.
Luther’s theology
In a letter of June 1522, Marin Luther wrote:“I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even by the angels. One who does not receive my doctrine cannot come to salvation.”
Word-picking from those books to suit your own fantasies might have the same value to humanity as picking your nose.
no clear thought of your own; still using other peoples.
and you say Christians are brain washed.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#435907 Apr 28, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
The end is near.
Time for all true Xians to shed their worldly wealth
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64209/cathol...
This is quite the "laughable" quote from that article.

"“What I’d like to say is when you talk about prophecies, it’s not always about the future. That is often times the wrong way of looking at prophecy. A prophet is somebody who speaks in behalf of somebody else,” he added."
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#435908 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Bill Maher interviewing "Jesus."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WlpT1T9825IXX
Many people today are just plain miserable. And plenty of these miserable people are also extremely critical. I am not sure that they are critical because they are miserable or miserable because they are critical.
I don't like critical people. I'm not sure that anyone does. They are much like complainers. You just don't like to be around someone who is always critical and complaining.
All of us have known people who were complainers and full of criticism. They had adopted a negative outlook on life. This critical spirit expressed itself in many ways. They were always fault finding, putting other people down, and judging others. They were negative and looked at everything in a negative way.
If we are honest, we have to admit that we do not want to be around people like that, even though we are sometimes tempted to act like that ourselves. So, when Jesus addressed this issue in the Sermon on the Mount, He was dealing with something that every person must confront. We must confront it in others, and we must confront it in ourselves as well. Having a negative, critical, judgmental attitude is everywhere - even in us.
Jesus' teaching is simple and straightforward. He tells us that we must first stop being judgmental. Then He tells us that rather than being judgmental concerning others, we must look to ourselves and evaluate our own lives.
Clay

Jersey City, NJ

#435909 Apr 28, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
It was the same type of boorish-minded men that compiled the data of the new testament, and the only reason Augustine was put on a pedestal as a wise theologian, is that he agreed with the boorish mental gibberish of the boorish-minded popes.
Augustine was a brilliant theologian.
Can you name anyone who spoke in perfect flawlessness?
Anyone who said all the right things at the right time- no matter the cultural situation was?

I bet you're thinking Barack Obama. lol

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#435910 Apr 28, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>my choice would be anywhere there is a pond loaded with fish so i can spend eternity fishing,what else is there to do in heaven? and what will we look like when we get there? example,if you become parilyzed from the neck down,do you spend eternity like that? or does god make us young an healthy or do you stay as you are when you die?
If you pick the myths of your favorite theologian while on earth, it is guaranteed to come true in the afterlife.

That was and is the line taught by all theologians. "Follow ME and I promise streets of gold and the best treatment from a god that you can get anywhere. Those other theologians lie to you ... but ME ... well ... I tell you the truth ... the whole truth ... and nothing but the truth ... I take it right from the HOLY book, which is God's MOST holy word ... blah, blah, blah."

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