Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#435778 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The word vatican will mean to you whatever you desire that it should mean.
Being selfish in nature we reflect back to us what best fits our own selfish aims, and that is why all the blood was and is shed over the subject of religion. People all defend their own individual dogmas in their cults as being of the highest of value in existence.
No Catholic is claiming any special meaning for a city named centuries before Christ arrived. I am merely responding to the radical claim that somehow the Church picked that name and it holds significants to the church. It doesnt.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435779 Apr 27, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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You get angry because you know it's imaginary.
They don't appreciate when others state something that makes them question what they were taught.

It's frightening for them.

That's why I suggest that if they want to value only the dogmas in their own cults ... a forum is not the place for them to be, as whether or not they believe it ... all the information and points of view from others WILL make them think and question their own dogmas.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435780 Apr 27, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<You are very learned n your studies and thourogh keep up the good work.
Translated that means that you simply agree with what the person posted.

History is not carved out in a solid rock. When we read history, it is simply countless points of view from story-tellers who no-doubt had their own preferences of what THEY chose to believe as truth.

We then go and pick out our own favorite beliefs from the ones in history who had the same slant on issues as we have.

It's about enhancing the view that comes back to us from our own mirrors, and we want those reflections to be grand and glorious.

It's the game put forth by human ego.

Non-human animals don't suffer such exaggerated gluttonous blight of ego.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435781 Apr 27, 2013
My guess is, non-human animals don't care which pack won a battle back in history. They are more concerned with putting food in the stomachs of their young, as survival of the fittest is the center of their universes.

They kill to eat, but they do NOT kill to defend dogmas in religions.

Yet humans often belittle the other animals for not being as wise as humans.

We have much to learn ... but it's not likely that for most of us the will is there TO learn these important issues from the other animals.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#435782 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The word Christ belongs to the Jews. You own the word Jesus ONLY.
And I suggest that if your imaginary Jesus wants suffering to end, he should prompt his non-existent father and suggest that they call it a day. And if the invisible Catholic daddy agrees, then the suffering of all forms of life would end immediately.
Silly dogmas fit for silly people!
Since you dismiss theology and philosophy, you are left with shallow,reflexive,insufficient answers. Yet not lacking arrogance.
There is no way these questions you raise can be answered without a thoughtful examination.This means philosophy and theology not some sort of book on that "Kooky Vatican". I wish you well but cannot give you the answers that are there.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435783 Apr 27, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
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No Catholic is claiming any special meaning for a city named centuries before Christ arrived. I am merely responding to the radical claim that somehow the Church picked that name and it holds significants to the church. It doesnt.
I didn't notice that anyone did claim the hierarchy had originated the word. I got the impression that the other posters were implying that the hierarchy simply morphed the word vatican to mean a place where the popes and their entourages reside.

I agree with their opinions.
truth

Perth, Australia

#435784 Apr 27, 2013
Yes suffering Jesus know that ..others know suffering can fill some ones you establish that prayers in many religion is some..now i fill good i have nice hot then cold shower..

about eye
no
you don't need know its private things
but
there on window is Jesus with heart with nun
yep

expression
Jesus never call love me
we have deference language
we live in deference time
maybe many times
to say others love me
is not as you say
you can describe that word differently
understand as many thing
'guard heart there is a life'
proverb 4;23
http://bible.cc/proverbs/4-23.htm

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435785 Apr 27, 2013
Aretha123 wrote:
<quoted text>Since you dismiss theology and philosophy, you are left with shallow,reflexive,insufficient answers. Yet not lacking arrogance.
There is no way these questions you raise can be answered without a thoughtful examination.This means philosophy and theology not some sort of book on that "Kooky Vatican". I wish you well but cannot give you the answers that are there.
Of course I'm not lacking in arrogance. If I was I wouldn't BE a human.

I can't give answers, because I don't have answers. I have opinions, as do you.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435786 Apr 27, 2013
Aretha123 wrote:
<quoted text>Since you dismiss theology and philosophy,
I don't dismiss philosophy, as it is a guessing game.

And I don't dismiss theology if it is contained in its meaning concerning the "study" of religion.

But for theologians to claim they can read the future and know what it entails ... that is NOT study of religion ... it is preaching lies in the guise of truth, and I am very much opposed to such blatant flaunting of nonsense.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435787 Apr 27, 2013
Whether the new pope resides in a guest house as a statement that he is a simple man with simple needs, I suggest you don't believe this silly gesture.

His staff knows where he lives, and they are at his beck and call day and night.

Most of us don't have servants, or guards ... and that is the truth of the matter.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435788 Apr 27, 2013
According to the following story, this pope resigned his position and DID go back to his simple previous existence.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

Sex Lives of the Popes … by Nigel Cawthorne … first published in Great Britain in 1996.‘An irreverent expose’—The Sunday Times.

The conclave following the death of Pope Nicolas IV (1288—92) made a terrible mistake. After over two years of stalemate, they elected a genuinely good man – a hermit called Peter of Morone, who lived in a cave a thousand feet up in the Apennines near Abruzzi. He was crowned Celestine V (1294, but he could not stand the licentious ways of Rome and moved to Naples.

The cardinals soon began to realize their mistake when Celestine began giving away the wealth of the church – to the poor, of all people! He had no flair for corruption or simony at all. And the princes of the Church worried that they would soon be bankrupt. Cardinal Benedict Gaetani, the papal notory, saw his chance. To gain Celestine’s confidence, he built the old hermit a humble wooden shack inside the huge rooms of the Castello Nuovo, the five towered castle that over-looks the Bay of Naples. There, Caetani prevailed upon Celestine to abdicate.

Just fifteen weeks after consecration, Celestine called his cardinals together, begged them to banish their mistresses to nunneries and to live in poverty like Jesus. Then, as an example to them all, Celestine put aside his papal gown, resumed his hermit’s rags, resigned and rode off, like Jesus, on a donkey.

Having engineered this coup, Gaetani had himself elected pope by the grateful cardinals and was crowned Boniface VIII (1294—1303).
truth

Perth, Australia

#435789 Apr 27, 2013

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#435790 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I don't dismiss philosophy, as it is a guessing game.
And I don't dismiss theology if it is contained in its meaning concerning the "study" of religion.
But for theologians to claim they can read the future and know what it entails ... that is NOT study of religion ... it is preaching lies in the guise of truth, and I am very much opposed to such blatant flaunting of nonsense.
June Darling We were talking about the questioning of suffering in the world.Keep posting.You are one of a kind.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#435791 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I didn't notice that anyone did claim the hierarchy had originated the word. I got the impression that the other posters were implying that the hierarchy simply morphed the word vatican to mean a place where the popes and their entourages reside.
I agree with their opinions.
No what was being implied by the Seventh Dayers is that it means Divine Serpent and it holds significants because the Vatican is the Beast in the bible. The Vatican merely took the name that was already there. Its not hard to see the bible light sight which has already been so thoroughly discredited. I realize everything is fiction for you, but the name of the city has nothing to do with the theology or teachings of the Church. Its a location. Jeruslem fits the bill on everything the claims are made against the Vatican as the beast. One can go round and round making all kinds of arguments against claims made and it has been done. I have no interest in doing so and it takes pages to refute each claim.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435792 Apr 27, 2013
If you observe the following opinions of Martin Luther, you will see that opinion is fickle and therefore not at all dependable.

We continually take sides on issues. Maybe there is no whole picture. It's possible that tunnel vision is all there is to the matter. I don't know, but from my perspective, guessing is a whole lot of fun.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following…………..

Assessments of Martin Luther (1483—1546) vary widely, depending on the stance of the assessor. To Pope Leo X he was stiff-necked notorious, damned heretic; to Philip Melanchthon and many of his contemporaries, a second Elijah, a new Paul. For 400 years from Thomas Murner in 1520 and Johann Dobneck in 1549 to Harmann Grisar and Heinrich Denifle in the twentieth century, Roman Catholic writers pictured Luther as a seven-headed monstrosity, a sick monk driven by sex, a desperate criminal, a destroyer of culture, a misguided radical. Since 1950 however, many Catholic scholars have hailed him as a profound reformer. To Goethe he was a genius; to Neitzsche a vulgar peasant. Luther regarded himself as a tool of God.

Since: Mar 13

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#435793 Apr 27, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Do you have something against black vehicles?
:)
Ollie says 'oh no'....we have nothing against them.

Its just that BLACK Buses have been designated to pickUP ALL hateful, hypocritical, hAtheists at their allocated stations and take them on their one-way trip to their ultimate party.

Now, as for WHITE Buses....that's a different story.

Go Figure

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435794 Apr 27, 2013
What theologian DIDN'T regard his self as a tool of a god or gods?

The word theologian to most people does not mean to study religion. It means to KNOW the answers.

That was a huge misuse of language which lead to rivers of blood being spilled by ignorant humans who knew no better than to follow and follow and follow.

The mind is weak and the will to be right is strong.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#435795 Apr 27, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
This board needs unity.
God doesn't want us to argue, right?
Let's ALL ask Jesus to appear...
There used to be one way for Jesus to prove that he rose from the dead. He used to appear to people. Several different places in the Bible describe Jesus' appearances after his death:
Matthew chapter 28
Mark chapter 16
Luke chapter 24
John Chapter 20 and 21
1 Corinthians 15:3-6 provides a nice summary of those passages, as written by Paul.
Obviously Paul benefitted from a personal meeting with the resurrected Christ. Because of the personal visit, Paul could see for himself the truth of the resurrection, and he could ask Jesus questions.
So...
Why did Jesus stop making these appearances?
We know that it is OK for Jesus to appear to people -- it does not take away their free will, for example -- because it was OK for Jesus to appear to hundreds of other people in the Bible.
Let's ALL ask Jesus to appear.
What do you think would happen?
I do, because I am a great seer.
Nothing will happen -- because all gods throughout history have proven to be imaginary.
Not just Jesus -- but 100% of all gods = imaginary.
That why no one can agree here.
That's why there have been so many religious wars.
So let's all pray together and maybe Jesus will prove me wrong? lol
Stanley says that you have a Black 'moniker' thus meaning that you are NOT a true member of TOPIX Forums.....

....and that you are full of schidt to the eyeballs.

Go Figure

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#435796 Apr 27, 2013
Do no harm, has never been an issue to theologians.

Bragging of knowing answers rather than admitting that it's all about guessing caused unfathomable harm and it continues to this day as one theologian after another stands on his pulpit and claims to know the one and only truth of what occurs after humans die.

Fortune-tellers ... one and all.

What a shame!

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#435797 Apr 27, 2013
Abraham Heschel in his book The Prophets says, "The most exalted idea applied to God is not infinite wisdom, infinite power, but infinite concern."

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