Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435109 Apr 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
“Believe those who are seeking the truth… doubt those who find it.”
Andre Gide
Well said Andre G.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#435110 Apr 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Tis Strange
And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
In deepest consequence.
--Banquo, Act I, scene iii
Nothing in his life
Became him like the leaving it; he died
As one that had been studied in his death,
To throw away the dearest thing he ow'd,
As 'twere a careless trifle.
~~~

Well spoken McBeth By Wm Shakespeare

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435111 Apr 24, 2013
If a god had asked me if I wanted to wander away from the perfect abode of the god knowing that if I did wander I would suffer, I would have said "No thank you god. I will stay where I'm safe. I really don't want to have to be born as a baby that starves to death and whose little body first suffers from disease caused by malnutrition. And I really don't want to be a little girl that is molested by a serial killer and then murdered for his satisfaction.

And OH ... by the way god, why DID you call your plan divine?"

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435112 Apr 24, 2013
And by the way god, I'm really pissed at your audacity to create Adam and Eve, knowing they would sin, and then on top of that, creating a plan where all humans would be born in sin because of Adam and Eve's sin.

THAT was down-right dirty. You went waaaaayyyyy too far that time.

I can see why you claimed you created evil.

tongue-in-cheek
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#435113 Apr 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
On the day Christ was crucified, there were only 1 to 2% who remained with Jesus, when a week early, 90% cheered Him with palms.
Also, are you Atheist? If so, why on Earth would you give the chits about our religion if you don't believe it?
I am not an atheist.

And what's the point of the rest of your post? How do you know what percentage of people were there? That is imaginary, because we have only second and third-hand accounts and even they are sketchy and contradictory. Flimsy hearsay and nothing more.

What we DO KNOW is clear in my post.

You defend the 2000 year failure of your church by implying that Jesus died to save 5% to 10% of humanity.

How absurd.

Oh yes, and let's all forget about decades of child abuse cover up.

Let's forget what Jesus said about those who harmed the little children who came to him.

Let's forget almost everything else Jesus said in the Bible and just focus on a few statements.

This is called delusional. Jesus didn't appoint anyone to protect child abusers. It's sick to claim otherwise.

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435114 Apr 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Tis Strange
And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
In deepest consequence.
--Banquo, Act I, scene iii
Nothing in his life
Became him like the leaving it; he died
As one that had been studied in his death,
To throw away the dearest thing he ow'd,
As 'twere a careless trifle.
I don't relate to those words, I suppose for the same reason I don't relate to words in all of those supposed holy books as being based on any semblance of truth.
Just sayin

Antioch, TN

#435115 Apr 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
If a god had asked me if I wanted to be created knowing I would suffer, I would have said "No thank you god ... I'd rather not."
:)
Have you no joy in your life? No peace? No contentment?
truth

Perth, Australia

#435116 Apr 24, 2013
how many time you kill me..o yes Jesus say..how many prophets you kill..oh did Jesus know what poor nefi say..how many time i been dead..who bring me back in life..its look as delusion.
Clay

United States

#435117 Apr 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="OldJG" Can you imagine such heresy?
Catholic Tradition is More Safe to Follow Than the Bible
"Like two sacred rivers flowing from paradaise, the Bible and divine tradition contain the word of God, the precious gems of revealed truths. Though these two divine streams are in themselves, on acount of their divine origin, of equal sacredness, and are both full of revealed truths, still of the two, tradition is to us more clear and safe." Catholic Belief, by Joseph Faa di Bruno, p 45.
**********
Shows where their allegiance is...
KM
hmmm, should I listen to Pope Francis preach the scriptures or Confrint. How about Harold Camping?
Those are some tough choices. The last two clearly do not preach the same as St. Clement, St. Ignatius nor any of their teachers- the Apostles.
Maybe I'll open up my own congregation and tell everyone I'm a Minister.
lol

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435118 Apr 24, 2013
If you are perfect god, how could you create a realm of such imperfection? Wouldn't that be YOUR fault?

Silence.

I have so many questions god, and humans kill each other over believing they have the answers. Why don't YOU speak direct to all humans and other animals so that we can understand for sure why we are suffering?

Silence

It seems as though I'm talking to my self. Maybe you really don't exist god.

More silence.

tongue-in-cheek

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#435119 Apr 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
If a god had asked me if I wanted to wander away from the perfect abode of the god knowing that if I did wander I would suffer, I would have said "No thank you god. I will stay where I'm safe. I really don't want to have to be born as a baby that starves to death and whose little body first suffers from disease caused by malnutrition. And I really don't want to be a little girl that is molested by a serial killer and then murdered for his satisfaction.
And OH ... by the way god, why DID you call your plan divine?"
~~~

"And OH ... by the way god, why DID you call your plan divine?"

And answers God...MY PLAN WAS DIVINE....AND PERFECT .. TIL

..SATAN AND EVIL MEN ...ATTEMPTED TO PERVERT IT.

~~~
Joh 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace.

In the world ye shall have tribulation:

but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
truth

Perth, Australia

#435120 Apr 24, 2013
ones when you discover yourself
yes
you will say did i rest..no
i can't sleep..not any more

who am I..
i don't know yet fully

if i know
i will remove all of you
who say that
not me
i just wrote what stay in mind

now you need know about confusion delusion
please tell
did you know
who turn everybody against everybody
where is that place

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435121 Apr 24, 2013
Just sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you no joy in your life? No peace? No contentment?
I receive great pleasure out of irritating those in religion who believe they have been dipped by one or another god in a deep well of holiness.

A woman once asked my why I put those in religion down. I told her I was not trying to put them down, I was trying to bring them down.

:)

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435122 Apr 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
"And OH ... by the way god, why DID you call your plan divine?"
And answers God...MY PLAN WAS DIVINE....AND PERFECT .. TIL
..SATAN AND EVIL MEN ...ATTEMPTED TO PERVERT IT.
~~~
In case you hadn't noticed ... your specialized theologians taught that your god uses Satan as his helper to burn god's rejects in hell for eternity.

Your god doesn't hate Satan ... so why should YOU?

Silly dogmas!

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435123 Apr 24, 2013
Satan has a DIVINE purpose. He keeps god's home-fires burning.

:)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#435124 Apr 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="OldJG" Can you imagine such heresy?
Catholic Tradition is More Safe to Follow Than the Bible
"Like two sacred rivers flowing from paradaise, the Bible and divine tradition contain the word of God, the precious gems of revealed truths. Though these two divine streams are in themselves, on acount of their divine origin, of equal sacredness, and are both full of revealed truths, still of the two, tradition is to us more clear and safe." Catholic Belief, by Joseph Faa di Bruno, p 45.
**********
Shows where their allegiance is...
KM
From the Catechism;

II. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TRADITION AND SACRED SCRIPTURE

One common source...

80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".41

... two distinct modes of transmission

81 "Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit."42

"And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its entirety the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit. It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth, they may faithfully preserve, expound and spread it abroad by their preaching."43

82 As a result the Church, to whom the transmission and interpretation of Revelation is entrusted, "does not derive her certainty about all revealed truths from the holy Scriptures alone. Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence."44

120 It was by the apostolic Tradition that the Church discerned which writings are to be included in the list of the sacred books.90 This complete list is called the canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament (45 if we count Jeremiah and Lamentations as one) and 27 for the New.91

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#435125 Apr 24, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I receive great pleasure out of irritating those in religion who believe they have been dipped by one or another god in a deep well of holiness.
A woman once asked my why I put those in religion down. I told her I was not trying to put them down, I was trying to bring them down.
:)
~~~

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#435126 Apr 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
056
<quoted text>
Yep...."traditions" to Catholics, trump the Word of God...da pope said it....
Where did 'da pope' say traditions trump the Word of God?
truth

Perth, Australia

#435127 Apr 24, 2013
no
you can't even if you want

please tell me
did you know where is first eden=perfection
after that we have how many times
1 2 3

because of that

tell me
why you go against poor woman ahhhhh

i liked have cold shower over my self as i could
not will be good in my condition
not at all
don't cry when i died
but try find first Eden

Since: Sep 09

New Hazelton, Canada

#435128 Apr 24, 2013
I wonder ... if Satan told god that he wanted to resign from his position as the one and only cremator in the hereafter, if god would accept his resignation?

After all ... god needs an evil entity to stomach burning all those souls for eternity, and it is my guess that not every evil entity is up to doing THAT nasty job.

Maybe I should ask the new pope what he believes. My guess is, even if god doesn't talk to the pope direct, the pope will go to the bible and come out with the absolute truth.

It's been done before ... many times before ... you just have to take the popes' words for it ... or not.

:)

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