Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Jul 10, 2007 Read more: CBC News 582,419
The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434804 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
And that a Jew would be in a Catholic wafer is the best joke of all time.
:)
Catholicism is Judaism fulfilled. There are too many references of the Eucharist in the OT to count.

Here is a couple: "Behold, I will rain bread from Heaven for you and the people shall go out and gather a days portion that i may test them whether they will walk in my law or not" Exodus 16:4

Exodus 16:16 They saw the flake like substance on the ground; not knowing what it was until Moses said "it is the bread which the Lord has given you to eat"

Exodus 16:31 "the house of Israel called its name 'Manna'; it was like a coriander seed,white,and the taste of it was like wafers made of honey"

NT

John 6:31
"Our fathers ate the Manna in the wilderness; as it is written (exodus 16:31)'He gave them bread from Heaven to eat' Jesus then said to them, "Truly I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from Heaven; My Father gives you the true bread from Heaven. For the bread of God is that which comes down from Heaven, and gives life to the world...'Jesus said to them, "I am the Bread of life"

Revelation 2:17
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the Churches. To him who conquers, i will give him some of the HIDDEN MANNA, and i will give him a white stone, with a new name written on the stone which no one knows accept him who receives it"

The Eucharist is the hidden manna. It is Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God; bread from Heaven.

Catholicbible101.com/theeucharist.htm
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434805 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
let's put it this way, Clay; i don't wanna be in your shoes on judgement day for siding with Rome and all her associated martydom's, versus siding with the persecuted Body of Christ!
even your "Eucharist" is a blasphemous attmept to crucify the Lord afresh with every cermony!
you won't be able to say that this wasn't spelled out for you many many many times.....
If I had a dollar for every time one of you fundies condemned me to hell, I could by my own building and call it a church. I could by a couple bibles and stick a cross on the outside and say im a minister. THEN, i could cast you to hell!! lol

For the record, Catholics do not 'crucify the Lord afresh with every ceremony'

Maybe you ought to learn what Catholics really believe? Did that thought ever cross your mind??
Are you afraid of learning what the Church actually believes? Or would you rather stay comfortably ignorant??

You won't be able to plug your ears and say 'la la la la la la' your whole life man.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434806 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholicism is Judaism fulfilled.
Hahahahahahaha

Ann Coulter claims that Christians are "perfected" Jews.

That means that had Jesus lived, he would first have had to become a Christian so that he could in that round-about way become a perfected Jew.

You people are class acts of comedy.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434808 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholicism is Judaism fulfilled.
So then the "object" IS to be a Jew in the end ... NOT a Catholic ... RIGHT???

If you want to follow a Jewish savior, you best not refer to your self as Catholic.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434809 Apr 22, 2013
Hypnosis works wonders those who are hypnotized.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>

TALK
TALK
TALK

By Jay Ingram Ö first published 1992 Ö an investigation into the mystery of speech

Iím not trying to argue that speaking in tongues is totally meaningless: it can have profound effects on both those who perform it and the audienceóitís just that these owe nothing to the so-called words.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434810 Apr 22, 2013
Back when I was testing the waters concerning different "tellers of truth, and nothing BUT the truth," I went with an elderly woman of the Christian faith to listen to the words of this supposed wonderful preacher.

A couple of people were "talking in tongues." What a performance!

I never went back for another round of that "specialty."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434811 Apr 22, 2013
The Jehovah's witnesses have it all figured out. They pray to the right son Jehovah of the Jewish God Elohim.

But the troubling part is, they refer to their selves as Christians rather than Jews.

It seems they also believe they have to take the long round about road to arrive back home with the Jewish God.

:)
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434812 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Hahahahahahaha
Ann Coulter claims that Christians are "perfected" Jews.
That means that had Jesus lived, he would first have had to become a Christian so that he could in that round-about way become a perfected Jew.
You people are class acts of comedy.
What i said was the truth. If someones going to be a Christian, you have to recognize how Judaism flowed into Catholicism. The Apostles clearly taught this. I'm not sure why you keep ranting about Jesus being a Jew, so he couldnt have started Christianity??

There is literally too much Biblical and historical evidence to show how Judaism became Catholicism. Grant it, not all Jews see it that way. Oh well, they can still look for the Messiah I guess...

Ann Coulter is not a spokesperson for Christianity. She has nothing in common with the Catholic faith as far as theology goes.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434813 Apr 22, 2013
From my opinion, this one is well-worth the time it takes to read it.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

TALK
TALK
TALK

By Jay Ingram Ö first published 1992 Ö an investigation into the mystery of speech

If it sounds all too bizarre, take Jaynesís favorite example, Homerís Iliad. This epic poem comes down to us, Jaynes argues, from pre-conscious or bicameral times. He claims that there are almost no examples in the Iliad of anyone acting on his own free will, or making decisions of any kind that arenít dictated by the gods. They never sit down and decide what to do. When Agamemnon steals Achillesí mistress, a god warns Achilles not to retaliate. Gods start the quarrels that cause the war, gods plan the strategy, a god leads the armies into battle, a god whispers to Helen, gods do everything. When Achilles reminds Agamemnon that he has stolen his mistress, Agamemnon replies,ďNot I was the cause of the act, but Zeus ÖĒ The Iliad is only one example: there are many others that can be interpreted as showing that people at that time needed their own auditory hallucinations to act.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434814 Apr 22, 2013
Religion is staged puppet-performances, put on in the pretence that a god, or gods are pulling the strings.

Silly stuff in deed.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434815 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
The Jehovah's witnesses have it all figured out. They pray to the right son Jehovah of the Jewish God Elohim.
But the troubling part is, they refer to their selves as Christians rather than Jews.
It seems they also believe they have to take the long round about road to arrive back home with the Jewish God.
:)
I'm pretty sure Jehovah Witness's do not call themselves Christian.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#434816 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text> Now this is from someone that has taken due diligence in research and not just spewing propaganda.
I appreciate the comment thanks

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434817 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What i said was the truth. If someones going to be a Christian, you have to recognize how Judaism flowed into Catholicism. The Apostles clearly taught this. I'm not sure why you keep ranting about Jesus being a Jew, so he couldnt have started Christianity??
There is literally too much Biblical and historical evidence to show how Judaism became Catholicism. Grant it, not all Jews see it that way. Oh well, they can still look for the Messiah I guess...
Ann Coulter is not a spokesperson for Christianity. She has nothing in common with the Catholic faith as far as theology goes.
What you posted was your "concept" of truth.

You can post your own opinions, but you can't post for the opinions of all Catholics.

My father was raised a strict Catholic, and when a priest told him that only Catholics could go to "heaven," that was when my father (already disillusioned with the church) parted ways.

Luther was an ex-Catholic, and even though his life was threatened, he chose to disagree with the dogmas of the pope.

From my experience Catholics don't agree on much of anything.

Approximately 38,000 denominations in Christianity alone ought to be a red flag indicating that there are a lot of people telling conflicting stories ... all bragging that they know the true path to eternal bliss.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434818 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Religion is staged puppet-performances, put on in the pretence that a god, or gods are pulling the strings.
Silly stuff in deed.
Hey June, I don't suppose you have an alternative scenario on our existence??
It seems some of the stuff the Atheist come up with are just as bizarre as any religion can offer. Their 'theories' if you will, are almost like 'faith' anyway.

If the mathematical probability of life or matter beginning out of nothing is sooo extreme (and it is) why can anyone say irrefutably,'there is no God'.
Face it, the Abrahamic God is not something people want. He requires us to follow some rules, and that don't sit to well with some folks. Especially the modern liberal movement.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434819 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ann Coulter is not a spokesperson for Christianity. She has nothing in common with the Catholic faith as far as theology goes.
She tells basically the same story as you, only she includes her self as a Protestant Christian, and you lock her out.

She claims Christians are perfected Jews. Your story claims that Catholicism is Judaism fulfilled.

I perceive you are both full of hot air.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434820 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey June, I don't suppose you have an alternative scenario on our existence??
I've already expressed what I believe might be the case ... adding that I won't know until I die what, if anything occurs after death.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434821 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey June, I don't suppose you have an alternative scenario on our existence??
It seems some of the stuff the Atheist come up with are just as bizarre as any religion can offer. Their 'theories' if you will, are almost like 'faith' anyway.
If the mathematical probability of life or matter beginning out of nothing is sooo extreme (and it is) why can anyone say irrefutably,'there is no God'.
Face it, the Abrahamic God is not something people want. He requires us to follow some rules, and that don't sit to well with some folks. Especially the modern liberal movement.
Just as do Atheists, you will believe whatever most suits your taste ... but I don't believe in fortune-telling of the future.

I can't know until something happens what will happen.

Imaginations are not trust-worthy, and have never been trust-worthy. And that from my perception is based on truth.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434822 Apr 22, 2013
I hope natives outlast missionaries.

Richard Harrington
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434823 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
What you posted was your "concept" of truth.
You can post your own opinions, but you can't post for the opinions of all Catholics.
My father was raised a strict Catholic, and when a priest told him that only Catholics could go to "heaven," that was when my father (already disillusioned with the church) parted ways.
Luther was an ex-Catholic, and even though his life was threatened, he chose to disagree with the dogmas of the pope.
From my experience Catholics don't agree on much of anything.
Approximately 38,000 denominations in Christianity alone ought to be a red flag indicating that there are a lot of people telling conflicting stories ... all bragging that they know the true path to eternal bliss.
If a Priest told your father,'only Catholics can go to heaven' then he misspoke or your Dad misunderstood him, or the Priest didn't clarify it.

If you're interested in the truth of what the Catholic Church teaches on salvation, check out:
catholic.com/tracts/salvation-outside-the-chu...

Or go straight to the Catechism chapter 3 article 9 paragraph 3, 819
scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#434825 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that REALLY hurt. I don't appreciate being left out of your Catholic circle any more than does Jesus the Jew.
:)
The difference is that you (yourself) have "chosen on your own" to (be left out), by willfully, rebelliously and defiantly REJECTING the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His historical and biblically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church.....Jesus has "always been" the pillar, foundation, the heart, the soul, the spirit, the mind, and the pillar of strength of HIS Church, HIS Universal, HIS Catholic Church..... Your own historically distorted and perverted "personal opinion" of Church History that you have "invented" in your own mind" is nothing more than an extension of "protestant church history propaganda", supported by anti-catholic "editorialist writers such as Clyde Manschreck.

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