Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the Jul 10, 2007, CBC News story titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434660 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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dear dear clay -
i've been through the entire Bible many many times and i've particpated in the true Lord's Supper/Communion countless times over a few decades now, but i have not yet encountered the Roman/Vatican imposed "Eucharist" or the associated transubstantiation since i've renounced my allegiance to Babylon/Rome.
Well that's too bad. You'll probably never partake in the Eucharist since you evidently do not believe in it. Or worse, you re defined it. Now its just some kinda koolaid type thingy you guys do for show. I dunno.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434661 Apr 22, 2013
The Catholics that broke away from Judaism could not manifest a savior out of thin air.

After all, that savior had to come from the Jewish prophets ... RIGHT?

And the Jewish prophets were JEWS.

So the savior of the Catholics HAD to be a Jew.

There was NO way around it for those Jewish scam-artists that wanted to start their own religion.

If they could have figured out how to make their image of a savior into a Catholic, no doubt they would have ... but it wasn't possible.

So after all these centuries, they are stuck with their silly story, that a Jew was sent to earth by a Jewish God to save ONLY Catholics.
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Athanasian Creed

1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434662 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Popes can't change Church dogma. They do not have the authority.
You seem to be more concerned with 'getting an post out there' then actual facts.
Ever hear of Infallible Teachings?

Mary went bodily to Heaven, according to infallible Papal decree, around 1872 I believe.

Check it out. Popes can change dogma. You might go to Hell for choosing to disavow nonsensical Papal decrees. Yikes.

A long time burning in Purgatory at the very least. But you can shorten or buy your way out of that.

Jesus never mentioned that benefit of being rich.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434663 Apr 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Then why are you arguing about someone you don't believe.
Why waste all your time posting spam, I guess you don't have a clear thought of your own
If I agreed with you, would you believe I was wasting my time?

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434664 Apr 22, 2013
One swears they know the truth, and the other ones LIE to it.
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The Jefferson Bible … Thomas Jefferson … Introduction by Forrest Church … Afterword by Jaroslav Pelikan.

Men like Benjamin Rush and Joseph Priestly helped to reestablish Christianity as a viable option for “reasonable” and “enlightened” republicans such as Thomas Jefferson.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434665 Apr 22, 2013
One swears HE knows the truth and the other ones LIE to it.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#434666 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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It would require a validly ordained Priest via Apostolic succession. It could be an Eastern Orthodox Priest.(Their Bishops are valid too)
Roman Priest?? I don't know what that is.
And no, a Protestant family can not have the Eucharist in their own home. The Apostle Paul clearly states its for those only, who accept the things the Apostles taught.
Besides, why would they bother talking it when they don't believe in it?
clay clay clay....don't you understand that the Church began by meeting in individual homes with individual families and not everyone of them had a 'peter' there to lead them???

c'mon dude, put your money where your mouth is and turn your children over to these peter-priests or shut-up, you're only being a poser!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434667 Apr 22, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Ever hear of Infallible Teachings?
Mary went bodily to Heaven, according to infallible Papal decree, around 1872 I believe.
Check it out. Popes can change dogma. You might go to Hell for choosing to disavow nonsensical Papal decrees. Yikes.
A long time burning in Purgatory at the very least. But you can shorten or buy your way out of that.
Jesus never mentioned that benefit of being rich.
Had we lived back a few centuries in time, most of us would be dead for disagreeing with the dogmas of not only the popes, but Puritan leaders such as the insane John Calvin and the first Lutheran, Martin Luther.

They were all power-seekers that claimed a god was supporting their spilling of blood.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434668 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Hell is probably not literally fire underneath your butt for eternity. Burning? Well, I think that the being who is now absent of Gods love because they reject Him, would best be described as 'burning, suffering, and in pain. Probably not physical pain, but a mental anguish because Love is not with them anymore ..I don't believe my view contradicts Church teaching either.
Yes, I believe if the God of Abraham (the Christian, Jewish and Muslim God) manifested Himself today, most Atheist would say,'wow, He is real!' But they would want no part of Him once they heard what He had to say.
If God didn't still love the ones in Hell, then He wouldn't be God.
A father never stops loving his kids, even if they say they hate him and move to the other side of the country and booze it up with some hookers and choose to never speak to their Dad again.
Clay ignores Jesus... "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

Touchy feely Clay ignores what Mary showed to the children at fatima:

"Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror."

In a delusion, one can simply change what doesn't seem right or doesn't work, as if it never existed.

Delusions are easily changed - because they are delusions.

So the Catholic Church knows this. Look how easily the believers forget the old teachings, without questioning why a "perfect church" could be so wrong.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#434669 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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It would require a validly ordained Priest via Apostolic succession. It could be an Eastern Orthodox Priest.(Their Bishops are valid too)
Roman Priest?? I don't know what that is.
And no, a Protestant family can not have the Eucharist in their own home. The Apostle Paul clearly states its for those only, who accept the things the Apostles taught.
Besides, why would they bother talking it when they don't believe in it?
You have been beguiled.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434670 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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if as you say the teachings of Eucharist have "nothing to do with Rome", do you think a 'lay' protestant believer in Christ can partake of valid Communion in their own home with family and other believers, or does it require a ROMAN Priest to conduct the ceremony?
you seem to be avoiding this question....:-(
Lets try and clear something up..
No other group on Earth has insults towards them that have become a permanent part of language, then the Catholic Church has.

They are not 'ROMAN' Catholic. They are just Catholic. ROMAN was first used by Protestant England to insult the 'Papist'(another insult title). The Anglicans preached they were now the real catholic Church and the followers of the Pope, are now called 'Roman' Catholics. The insult stuck.
Unfortunately though, later people saw we were 'Roman' Catholic and went off in a rabid frenzy, thinkin the Book of Revelation was referring to us. Amazing how the devil confuses us.

So call us Roman Catholic if you desire. But don't imply the true Catholic Church is now the 'whore' Beast of Babylonia because you a$$ holes decided to re-name us with a slur.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#434671 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Well that's too bad. You'll probably never partake in the Eucharist since you evidently do not believe in it. Or worse, you re defined it. Now its just some kinda koolaid type thingy you guys do for show. I dunno.
let's put it this way, Clay; i don't wanna be in your shoes on judgement day for siding with Rome and all her associated martydom's, versus siding with the persecuted Body of Christ!

even your "Eucharist" is a blasphemous attmept to crucify the Lord afresh with every cermony!

you won't be able to say that this wasn't spelled out for you many many many times.....

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434672 Apr 22, 2013
Thomas Jefferson re-wrote what he believed were the sentiments of the "loving" Jesus.

He impregnated his slave again and again ... but would not marry her, believing whites were superior to blacks (in the eyes of God)... of course. He was as nutty as they come, yet he was sure he was HOLY.

And when he was President observe what he believed should happen to homosexuals.

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About.com Civil Liberies.

In 1779, Thomas Jefferson proposed a law that would mandate castration for gay men and mutilation of nose cartilage for gay women. But that's not the scary part. Here's the scary part: Jefferson was considered a liberal. At the time, the most common penalty on the books was death.

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/gendersexual ...
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434673 Apr 22, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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clay clay clay....don't you understand that the Church began by meeting in individual homes with individual families and not everyone of them had a 'peter' there to lead them???
c'mon dude, put your money where your mouth is and turn your children over to these peter-priests or shut-up, you're only being a poser!
Exactly, not everyone had Peter to lead them. But they did have his successor and the ordained Bishops from the Church!
Who do you have? Its either you and your opinion on what the scriptures are saying, or its some guy who declared himself a ministers and tells you what the scriptures are saying.

every single one of you were started by some dude. Most in the past century too.
Wake us man.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434674 Apr 22, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Clay ignores Jesus... "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Touchy feely Clay ignores what Mary showed to the children at fatima:
"Our Lady showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to be under the earth. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now falling back on every side like sparks in a huge fire, without weight or equilibrium, and amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repulsive likeness to frightful and unknown animals, all black and transparent. This vision lasted but an instant. How can we ever be grateful enough to our kind heavenly Mother, who had already prepared us by promising, in the first Apparition, to take us to heaven. Otherwise, I think we would have died of fear and terror."
In a delusion, one can simply change what doesn't seem right or doesn't work, as if it never existed.
Delusions are easily changed - because they are delusions.
So the Catholic Church knows this. Look how easily the believers forget the old teachings, without questioning why a "perfect church" could be so wrong.
What do you expect but lies from Jewish con-artists that wanted to start a new religion?
The Oracle

UK

#434675 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Hell is probably not literally fire underneath your butt for eternity. Burning? Well, I think that the being who is now absent of Gods love because they reject Him, would best be described as 'burning, suffering, and in pain. Probably not physical pain, but a mental anguish because Love is not with them anymore ..I don't believe my view contradicts Church teaching either.
Yes, I believe if the God of Abraham (the Christian, Jewish and Muslim God) manifested Himself today, most Atheist would say,'wow, He is real!' But they would want no part of Him once they heard what He had to say.
If God didn't still love the ones in Hell, then He wouldn't be God.
A father never stops loving his kids, even if they say they hate him and move to the other side of the country and booze it up with some hookers and choose to never speak to their Dad again.

Sorry to hear about your reprobate kids! Be strong and God will pull you through.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434676 Apr 22, 2013
Ella wrote:
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You have been beguiled.
Is that the same as bewitched?

Please don't encourage other to start another Inquisition.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434677 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Exactly, not everyone had Peter to lead them. But they did have his successor and the ordained Bishops from the Church!
Who do you have? Its either you and your opinion on what the scriptures are saying, or its some guy who declared himself a ministers and tells you what the scriptures are saying.
every single one of you were started by some dude. Most in the past century too.
Wake us man.
Had Peter lived, he was a Jew ... and Jews don't herd Catholics into a heavenly corral.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#434678 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The Apostle Paul clearly states its for those only, who accept the things the Apostles taught.
My niece receives her 1st communion in May. She is 7 and in the 2nd grade. So if you accept something you should be able to explain it as well...correct? My niece will be able to explain what the apostles taught?
Ella

Rockford, MI

#434679 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The Eucharist is the Lamb of God. Jesus. So I would say its Jewish. lol.
Maybe you ought learn what your opponents believe instead of telling us what we believe.
If the eucharist is the Lamb of God-Jesus as you have stated, then each time you hold Jesus up on your altar you are spilling His blood over and over again and those partaking in essence, are participating idolaters. Jesus died once. He said, do this in remembrance of me. He didn't say mock what I did for you at Calvary.

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