Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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truth

Perth, Australia

#434576 Apr 22, 2013
someone is righteousness only if they not tell you about what..cancer..
now
do you need respect that..choose..who say that..ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

then
is realy god there about justice..i think no

i tell you before
its stay upon me in my old house where my grandfathers belong
no hand you can't see face no just overwealming kapuljace

i remember what i asked
what is strongest on the world

from me going as river words
love your god with heart and mind..
no i don't be scare

its look as dream oh yes its will be good just like that..
now
your cancare

god is full of Mercy..did he have that title..i think so..

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#434577 Apr 22, 2013
Christ's Resurrection vs. Those of Other 'Gods'
Ryan Duncan, Crosswalk.com

Does Christís resurrection even matter? This was the question I found myself asking the day after Easter. Life had returned to business as usual, with most of the holiday lessons fading into the background. Nothing about Easter had really fazed me, and why should it? I already knew all of the sermons; I could quote the story of Christís death backwards and forwards.

Even my attempts at prayer had fizzled out. So it was a complete surprise one Friday night when I overheard a couple of college students talking about Jesus' resurrection.

"Christians," one said, "like to think Jesus is unique because he rose from the dead, but that isnít true. Resurrection was a common theme in most ancient religions. The Greek god Dionysus had been brought back from death, so had the Egyptian god Osiris, the Hindu god Ganesha, a hero from Finnish mythology, and a Japanese goddess."

"So," another concluded, "not only is Christianity ludicrously fake, itís not even original."

They all laughed, and I found myself wondering about the holiday I had just celebrated. Most Christians I knew did think Christís coming back to life was unique... but was it? I started looking up everything I could find on resurrection myths, and was pleasantly surprised at what I found: it turns out Christís death and resurrection are more unique than I ever realized.

None of These Beings Knew They Were Going To Die

The first thing that became apparent to me was that none of these other deities knew they were going to die. Dionysus was slain when he was a child. Osiris was tricked and murdered by rivals. Death took them all by surprise and in very human fashion. Jesus, on the other hand, not only knew he was going to die, he even knew the method: crucifixion.

The Gospels are replete with verses where Jesus refers to his own death, but nowhere is his knowledge more apparent than in the garden of Gethsemane,

Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him. On reaching the place, he said to them, "Pray that you will not fall into temptation." He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground. When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow. Luke 22:39-45

Christís death did not take him unaware. He knew he was going to be crucified, it was the reason he was born. This awareness leads into the second major difference between Jesus and other resurrected gods...

None of These Beings Went Willingly To Their Death

The second significant aspect of Christís death is that he went to it willingly. As mentioned above, all these other gods met their ends in very human ways. Some, like Ganesha, tried to fight a stronger opponent and lost; others, like the Japanese goddess Izanami, died from sickness or childbirth. The impression is that none of them intended to die but that their deaths came anyway. Christís death was altogether different.

Not only did he claim foreknowledge of his impending death, he claimed he could stop it if he chose to. The book of John in particular makes note of this in several places:

Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place." "You are a king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus answered, "You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me." John 18:36-37
Clay

Chicago, IL

#434578 Apr 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Cancer is a a group of rebellious cells..that destroy the unity of the body...
just as you in your rebellious attitude are attempting to disrupt the unity of the body of Christ....
Sin is to blame for all sorrow and sickness..pain and death.
God had a perfect world before sin came....It took 930 years for sin to bring death to Adam..
___
1Co_15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Sickness is the prerequisite of death....
Jesus brought resurrection of the dead...
What do you say to the Atheist that might say something like this:
"How come you preach the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, when Jesus never did and His Apostles never did?

Why does your Bible only have 66 Books but the Catholic has 73. Who determined what should be 'the Bible'?

How come you preach something different about the Bible then what the first Christians understood?

Why do you reject the science that shows the Earth being millions of yrs old?

How come you continuously accuse Catholics of Idolatry when they explained to you that they do not?

If you're going to claim to be specially called by God to preach the Bible, then you can't run from these questions. Are you legit or are you a fraud?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434579 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you say to the Atheist that might say something like this:
"How come you preach the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, when Jesus never did and His Apostles never did?
My guess is, the Atheist would say, "Why do you preach words from a bible at me when you already know that I can read?

And by the way, thank you for placing a capital letter on the word Atheist.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434580 Apr 22, 2013
confe who do that?

i died..but i am still alive..why?

everything as i hear just drop over bad..yes ohhhhhh..then i hear again..pljus ones twice over my face..me who..did i say something..no i can't speak i can't move..then i hear again..she died..my mother say..who meee..oh my brother say..she died what can we do..who me..did i say something..no but its inside me thinking like that..just a minute what they done to me..then sudenly pljus oh water..my mother do that..then i start sp[eak..you are late my mother say..its been day 15 august..did i ..i say to my mother..its will be 3 o'clock now very soon afternoon..oh i say i mist..i forget i need read..

my bad is been wet..i mean deadly graveyard..my body looks like that..did i fill shame tell you this..no.
how many times i died..perhaps couple time more in this life here too..now

tell me about cancer..who do that..why?Did somebody pay me to be mother Mary..oh my God.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434581 Apr 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Cancer is a a group of rebellious cells..that destroy the unity of the body...
just as you in your rebellious attitude are attempting to disrupt the unity of the body of Christ....
Sin is to blame for all sorrow and sickness..pain and death.
God had a perfect world before sin came....It took 930 years for sin to bring death to Adam..
___
1Co_15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Sickness is the prerequisite of death....
Jesus brought resurrection of the dead...
You are muddling your religious perceptions with science.

I don't believe in your religioius perceptions, and was trying to explain simply from a scientific perception what I believe occurs.

June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you insinuating that every baby born with problems stems from parents that didn't behave in a proper way?
That is a very archaic attitude.
My guess is, cells simply do their own things and that means humans are often surprised by differences in cell formations.
~~~

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434582 Apr 22, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Cancer is a a group of rebellious cells..that destroy the unity of the body...
If cancerous cells exist, then your supposed god knows they exist, and he does nothing to kills them.

Yet according to the bible, he wants us to stone each other to death.

The theology is nuts, and if you keep on being entangled in it, it will draw you more and more into confusion.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434583 Apr 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Now we are back to free will again June.
God gave us that choice to do good or evil.
So then if after I ask god to give me free will in the afterlife, and god says "NO ... you must burn in hell" ... then I don't have free will at all ... RIGHT??? That means that the god is a very punishing god in deed.

I suggest that you are the one who worships this image of such a horror ... so you deal with the image.

I never allowed my self to worship such a monstrosity, so I found it easy to walk away from religion.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434584 Apr 22, 2013
please tell me about soul which never died..

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434585 Apr 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't get it do you June you would rather just spew out all this vicious venom, without knowing all the facts.
When I was under the spell of religion, my image of a god was pure love.

By insinuating that your god sends others to burn in hell, you are the one to spew vicious venom.

And I suggest that you don't further use the word fact as though you know what happens after death ... because you don't ... and THAT is a fact.
truth

Perth, Australia

#434586 Apr 22, 2013
you can say necu=no why not many time as you could..up to you what you liked think about your commandments..
Please
Where are you liked go..in heaven=nevaeh..or you liked go where..think about that...you don't need laguage..no why should be..
How many window you have?

You tell me my Father have many house.

How many window you have?
pro proverb 1;26
Where are you liked hide yourself?
love your God with heart and mind strong as you could..

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434587 Apr 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
God did make a perfect world June
I suggest you need to watch more suffering of non-human animals before you make such a ridiculous statement. What did they do to be created to suffer? A deer in the forest has to be on guard every second so as not to be chewed to death by a beast of prey. Meanwhile the deer is eaten by insects on its body that doesn't give it a minute's peace, and the insect not knowing any other way, must make the life of the deer miserable in order that the insects survive.

THAT is just a slight example of your perfect world.

However, being in religion for so many years, I understand why you justify and squirm around the real subjects in order to keep your image of a god on a pedestal.

Been there ... done that!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434588 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>Again, science does not support your false claim.
The human body is NOT created from cells. The human body CONTAINS cells.
The human body starts in utero as one cell. Without that one cell, there would be no start TO the human body.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#434589 Apr 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you say to the Atheist that might say something like this:
"How come you preach the Bible as the foundation of Christianity, when Jesus never did and His Apostles never did?
Why does your Bible only have 66 Books but the Catholic has 73. Who determined what should be 'the Bible'?
How come you preach something different about the Bible then what the first Christians understood?
Why do you reject the science that shows the Earth being millions of yrs old?
How come you continuously accuse Catholics of Idolatry when they explained to you that they do not?
If you're going to claim to be specially called by God to preach the Bible, then you can't run from these questions. Are you legit or are you a fraud?
~~~~

To each his own destiny..

You have chosen your destiny by rejecting the inerrant word of God.

and gambling your soul on the chance that what your religious society

have added is truth...while practicing those things that God's word forbids..

Jos_24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve;

whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

As for me and my House we will serve the Lord and strive to obey His word..

.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434590 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
My guess is, the Atheist would say, "Why do you preach words from a bible at me when you already know that I can read?
And by the way, thank you for placing a capital letter on the word Atheist.
Now that's an interesting response. I've never looked at it that way.
Why doesn't Confrint, Old G, and Preston (those three claimed a special calling to pastor) just say, "here's the Bible, read it for yourself and you'll figure out the Ministry of Jesus Christ".
But that's not what they do, do they?
They may preach that the Bible is all that Christ established and we can easily figure it out on our own, but then, when we disagree about scripture to them, they'll bludgeon us with verse verse verse until we see it their way. Btw, the three men I referred to above, all teach opposite of each other on many critical teachings. Its amazing they try to fool people into thinking the Holy Spirit is guiding them (and everyone) to scriptural truth, when no two on this forum come to the same conclusions.
They damn near force people into Atheism who otherwise may not be, by demanding complete ignorance of the recipient.
Human Being

Basile, LA

#434591 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
So then if after I ask god to give me free will in the afterlife, and god says "NO ... you must burn in hell" ... then I don't have free will at all ... RIGHT??? That means that the god is a very punishing god in deed.
I suggest that you are the one who worships this image of such a horror ... so you deal with the image.
I never allowed my self to worship such a monstrosity, so I found it easy to walk away from religion.
June VanDerMark:

Perhaps God lets us judge for ourselves.

If you have no free-will, or have annhilated it within yourself now, then God may simply what you want, and give you what you desire. And that is hell.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434592 Apr 22, 2013
Benjamin Rush
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

One of many causes of insanity he noted was intense study of "imaginary objects of knowledge" such as "researches into the meaning of certain prophecies in the Old and New Testaments."

http://www25.uua.org/uuhs/duub/articles/benja ...
truth

Perth, Australia

#434593 Apr 22, 2013
spirit water light =life
say uuuuuuuuuuu as breath
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#434594 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
When I was under the spell of religion, my image of a god was pure love.
By insinuating that your god sends others to burn in hell, you are the one to spew vicious venom.
And I suggest that you don't further use the word fact as though you know what happens after death ... because you don't ... and THAT is a fact.
Are you fully Atheist or 99% like Richard Dawkins?

When you were 'under the spell of religion' what denomination were you?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#434595 Apr 22, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest you need to watch more suffering of non-human animals before you make such a ridiculous statement. What did they do to be created to suffer? A deer in the forest has to be on guard every second so as not to be chewed to death by a beast of prey. Meanwhile the deer is eaten by insects on its body that doesn't give it a minute's peace, and the insect not knowing any other way, must make the life of the deer miserable in order that the insects survive.
THAT is just a slight example of your perfect world.
However, being in religion for so many years, I understand why you justify and squirm around the real subjects in order to keep your image of a god on a pedestal.
Been there ... done that!


~~~
You wrote about

"being in religion for so many years,"

Evidently you were into religion (like billions of others in the Roman Catholic Church)...but never born again ....in Christ...

Attempting to walk in religious piety.... while being led by your fleshly carnal nature...

Rom_8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

That scenario was never meant to be...

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