Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434387 Apr 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
OldG believes:
The Bible -although not in existence for Christians until the 5th century -
The Arrogance of Faith, by Forrest G. Wood

To appreciate fully the meanings of scriptural terms and references, one would need to go back beyond the fourth-century Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible prepared by St. Jerome, or the twenty-seven books on the list that Bishop Athanasius of Alexandria compiled in the year 367, which were to become the New Testament, and study not only ancient Greek and Hebrew texts but northwestern Semitic writings, especially Aramaic, and even some of the lesser-known languages of biblical times such as Akkadian and Ugaritic.
Ella

Rockford, MI

#434388 Apr 20, 2013
OldJG wrote:
Roman Catholics believe......
The priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on the altar as the eternal victim for the sins of man--not once but a thousand times. The priest speaks and lo! Christ the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command.
So what you are saying is that the priest(mortal man) has authority over Jesus. And the priest calls Jesus down to what? spill His blood again??? At the Passover supper didn't Jesus say to His apostles,'Do this in remembrance of me'. Remembrance is defined as power as remembering.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434389 Apr 20, 2013
From what I studied of history, I believe that bible-users are those seeking to caught harm to others.
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The Bay Colony, in making sodomy a capital crime, did not follow the English statute but instead adopted the language of Leviticus 20: 13.

Section 8 of the 1641 laws was thus a word-for-word translation of a Hebrew law more than 2,000 years old: "If any man lyeth with mankinde as he lyeth with a woman, both of them have committed
abhomination, they both shall surely be put to death" (Whitmore, 1890, p. 55). Astonishingly, this phraseology was to remain on the books of at least one American state-Connecticut-until some 46
years after the Declaration of Independence.

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent ...
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#434390 Apr 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
The Bible -although not in existence for Christians until the 5th century

Some Catholics like to believe this although the books of the Bible (actually a scroll at the time) were long in use as we read in early Christian letters.

Who wrote the NT books and when?

http://carm.org/wasnt-new-testament-written-h...

www.datingthenewtestament.com

We do not get the Bible from the RC no matter how many times you repeat this. Just the opposite is true - the RC kept the Bible from everyone. That's what part of the inquisition was about. The NT specifically came from the GREEK ORTHODOX who fled West in 1453 after Islam destroyed Constantinople.

KJV NT origins

http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...

Jesus was reading from the OT Law & Prophets long before the RC claims on the canon.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#434391 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:

If the child was not baptized and died very soon after birth, then what?
Limbo? Hell?
You are saying that a simple ritual -- of which the infant has no knowledge -- gives that child special privileges with God.
Personally, I find such a belief absurd and delusional.
Question...
If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any God treat that child with less love and consideration?
Please explain why a Hindu infant is at such a disadvantage over an infant born into the "correct" denomination.
You can't.

**********

Until he/she can believe in Jesus on their own, a child is sanctified by its believing parent.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they (the children) holy.

KayMarie
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#434392 Apr 20, 2013

Halloween?
with James Arrabito
www.youtube.com/watch...


Revelation 17
Five hour powerpoint presentation
www.youtube.com/watch...
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#434393 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
From what I studied of history, I believe that bible-users are those seeking to caught harm to others.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>
The Bay Colony, in making sodomy a capital crime, did not follow the English statute but instead adopted the language of Leviticus 20: 13.
Section 8 of the 1641 laws was thus a word-for-word translation of a Hebrew law more than 2,000 years old: "If any man lyeth with mankinde as he lyeth with a woman, both of them have committed
abhomination, they both shall surely be put to death" (Whitmore, 1890, p. 55). Astonishingly, this phraseology was to remain on the books of at least one American state-Connecticut-until some 46
years after the Declaration of Independence.
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent ...

Christmas was also illegal viewed as a romanist holiday. Thank God for the Puritans!

www.chesebro.net/out_xmas.shtml

www.youtube.com/watch...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinterklaas

Drew Carey 2002 White House Correspondents' Dinner

www.youtube.com/watch...
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#434394 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
What if you are preaching lies and just believe you are preaching truth?

Then others will reprove the lies. That's how it works, lest Rome usurp authority.
Clay

United States

#434395 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Some Catholics like to believe this although the books of the Bible (actually a scroll at the time) were long in use as we read in early Christian letters.
Who wrote the NT books and when?
http://carm.org/wasnt-new-testament-written-h...
www.datingthenewtestament.com
We do not get the Bible from the RC no matter how many times you repeat this. Just the opposite is true - the RC kept the Bible from everyone. That's what part of the inquisition was about. The NT specifically came from the GREEK ORTHODOX who fled West in 1453 after Islam destroyed Constantinople.
KJV NT origins
http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...
Jesus was reading from the OT Law & Prophets long before the RC claims on the canon.
Tell you what.. you, old G, and the other 911 conspiracy Christians can meet together and bludgeon each other with scripture verses. May the best man win.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434396 Apr 20, 2013
And if many Christians had their way, those biblical scriptures such as Leviticus 20:13 would be put into law again in the flash of a theocratic government taking power.

Those in religion don't mind committing harm against others, if they believe their motives are of god-like sentiments.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#434397 Apr 20, 2013
Ella wrote:
<quoted text>
So what you are saying is that the priest(mortal man) has authority over Jesus. And the priest calls Jesus down to what? spill His blood again??? At the Passover supper didn't Jesus say to His apostles,'Do this in remembrance of me'. Remembrance is defined as power as remembering.
Apparently so for the Roman Catholics. As for me, no. The Lord's Supper is totally symbolic. He said do this in remembrance of me. He did not say eat this because it is me. Now the Roman Catholics will refer us to John 6. They forget to keep reading until they get to John 6:63, "The Spirit alone gives eternal life. Human effort accomplishes nothing. And the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life."

Thank you Ella and have a wonderful evening.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434398 Apr 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what.. you, old G, and the other 911 conspiracy Christians can meet together and bludgeon each other with scripture verses. May the best man win.
It's god's will coming to full-fruition!

:)
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#434399 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Some Catholics like to believe this although the books of the Bible (actually a scroll at the time) were long in use as we read in early Christian letters.
Who wrote the NT books and when?
http://carm.org/wasnt-new-testament-written-h...
www.datingthenewtestament.com
We do not get the Bible from the RC no matter how many times you repeat this. Just the opposite is true - the RC kept the Bible from everyone. That's what part of the inquisition was about. The NT specifically came from the GREEK ORTHODOX who fled West in 1453 after Islam destroyed Constantinople.
KJV NT origins
http://conservapedia.com/Geneva_Bible#The_Fir...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-t...
Jesus was reading from the OT Law & Prophets long before the RC claims on the canon.
Thank you socci. But unfortunately your information falls on deaf ears and blind eyes. The Lord Jesus Christ can open their ears and their eyes. Let's pray that He does.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434400 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Christmas was also illegal viewed as a romanist holiday. Thank God for the Puritans!
The Puritans were against Christmas.
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Chronology of American Religious History: 1600 - 2004

December 25, 1789 During the first Christmas under America's new Constitution, the Congress was in session. This fact may seem odd today, but at the time Christmas was no t a major Christian holiday. As a matter of fact, Christmas had a bad reputation among many Christians as a time of un-Christian excess and partying. Between 1659 and 1681, celebrating Christmas was actually illegal in Boston and anti-Christmas sentiment in the North prevented the day from becoming a national holiday until 1870.

http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/religio ...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434401 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Then others will reprove the lies. That's how it works, lest Rome usurp authority.
All theologians were and are liars. Theologians never agreed, don't agree ... and resent each other's theologies.

It's all in concern with bragging whose myths are based on truth and whose myths are false.

I believe all myths are false. I'm fair to all the myth-makers.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434402 Apr 20, 2013
Fred Phelps is a very cruel man, and is probably close to winning a medal for being the king of bullshitters. Yet dear old Fred is certain that Jesus is his best buddy.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434403 Apr 20, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Then others will reprove the lies.
Who can reprove your lies ... but you.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434404 Apr 20, 2013
Glastonbury Thorn

Glastonbury.—A vast concourse of people attended the noted thorn on Christmas-day, new style; but, to their great disappointment, there was no appearance of its blowing, which made them watch it narrowly the 5th of January, the Christmas-day, old style, when it blowed as usual.

Gentleman's Magazine January 1753

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Abbe ...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434405 Apr 20, 2013
The Woman’s Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred objects … by Barbara G. Walker.

Christmas tree

The Christmas tree is still one of the Western world’s most beloved symbols, although it had no meaning in the Judeo-Christian context but was drawn almost entirely from pagan tree worship. Preserved through the centuries in central Europe, it was unknown in English-speaking countries until after 1840, when Prince Albert the German bridegroom of Queen Victoria, brought the custom from his native land to England. The Teutonic Christmas tree dated back to Yule celebrations, along with the candles, gifts, and sacrificial pig with an apple in its mouth. But there were pagan elements from southern Europe also. Certain priest of Attis called dendrophori,“tree-bearers,” annually selected a pine tree from the sacred grove (pinea silva) to carry the effigy of the god into his Roman temple. The dendrophori were charged with the duty of setting up and decorating the tree, upon which the god was presented for sacrifice.(1) Perhaps this was the origin of the custom of hanging small male effigies, such as gingerbread men, on the Christmas tree.
Like all evergreens, such as the holly and ivy, the pine tree stood for a promise of eternal life because it kept its vital appearance even when other plants died off during the winter. Naturally this applied only to the living pine tree, lighted and decorated in the woods where it stood. Trees that were cut and brought indoors would soon become brown and dead, thus contradicting the symbolic meaning.

1. Vermaseren, 115.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#434406 Apr 20, 2013
391
confrinting with the word wrote:
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
If the child was not baptized and died very soon after birth, then what?
Limbo? Hell?
You are saying that a simple ritual -- of which the infant has no knowledge -- gives that child special privileges with God.
Personally, I find such a belief absurd and delusional.
Question...
If the infant was born to a Hindu family and died with original sin, why would any God treat that child with less love and consideration?
Please explain why a Hindu infant is at such a disadvantage over an infant born into the "correct" denomination.
You can't.
**********
Until he/she can believe in Jesus on their own, a child is sanctified by its believing parent.
1Co 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they (the children) holy.
KayMarie
Which brings up the questions: What if both parents are unbelievers??? What happens then????

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