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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434225 Apr 20, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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Like we are to believe you this time?
Links are helpful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyridianism

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434226 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Catholics still do. They call it "devotion," not worship.
Western Catholics now say Mary was without sin - the only other person ever to join God Jesus with that virtue.
They claim she flew up to heaven in bodily form, to reign as Queen of Heaven.
In Catholic "miracles," Mary tells us how she saves souls.
Mary is a classical goddess in all but name only.
Because females don't have equal rights.
Even the Catholic theologians didn't agree ... and that is because myths are silly in the first place.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following ……..

On his own authority, in 1854, Pius proclaimed the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed virgin, a dogma long desired by Mariologists, but hardly favored by liberals.
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No theologian has equaled the influence of Aquinas on Roman Catholicism.

Aquinas did not believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary, which was still being debated.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434227 Apr 20, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i disagree:mat.19:24 it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
I was spoofing.

Of course Jesus was very clear. He spoke on the topic many times.

To follow Jesus was to be poor. Many of the early church fathers followed Jesus' words.

But on this board, no believers see fit to do so. They can all explain away anything that doesn't fit their wants and biases.

That's how the religion game is played. "Jesus didn't really mean it," say the believers. "out of context" -- 6 times.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434228 Apr 20, 2013
Theologians often became violent when their illusions were confronted. If there is nothing to hide, why try to hide it?
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Flim-Flam … by James Randi

During two visits to the Philippines back in the 1950s, I heard of these wonders being performed some distance from Manila. When it was discovered that I wanted to visit these places and look into the claims, I was suddenly summoned to the Immigration Office, where my passport was “inspected” by being confiscated for several days. This was an effective warning that my inquiry was not welcome. The official who questioned me asked me repeatedly whether I was there representing any press service or media outlet and kept referring to “causing trouble” for “religious people.” In the end I was not only refused information but told that it could be dangerous to travel in certain remote areas of the islands. I took the hint, and when my passport was returned to me after the Canadian consulate there insisted upon it, I left without ever seeing the performance of the backwoods charlatans.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#434229 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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Links are helpful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyridianism
Links are useless, if you are not able to present and defend a position on your own, it can be dismissed.

Why you ask? I'll tell you. Because posting a link does not demonstrate that you have any understanding on the topic.

Typical fail for those who lack skills.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#434230 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Even the Catholic theologians didn't agree ... and that is because myths are silly in the first place.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following ……..
On his own authority, in 1854, Pius proclaimed the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed virgin, a dogma long desired by Mariologists, but hardly favored by liberals.
………………………
………………………
No theologian has equaled the influence of Aquinas on Roman Catholicism.
Aquinas did not believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary, which was still being debated.
Like we are to believe you this time?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434231 Apr 20, 2013
We are supposed to believe.....

that somehow the Big Cheese, the Creator of trillions of galaxies,

each with trillions of stars and planets, in a universe too big for human comprehension,

really cares whether you are Protestant or Catholic or Jew or Hindu or Muslim.

I don't. I believe it is delusional.

The first clue is the fact that -- you are convinced that all other religions - past and present - are delusional, except your own religion.

You are the one being persecuted and attacked for your beliefs too. The attacks on all others are somehow justified in your mind.

Hello??? That's delusional.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#434232 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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If that were not complete baloney, you and the producers of that are all rich!!!
No? If you truly believe then I suggest you contact them and tell them about the giant rewards that are available for actual proof of god.
See the Templeton Foundation for example. There are others like it.
If you had proof, you wouldn't be posting here now.
Fact -- there is no actual evidence for God's existence.
God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth.
All historical gods were imaginary and we know it.
None of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence.
The "prophecies" are laughable when studied independently and in detail.
God has never spoken to modern man.
The resurrected Jesus has never appeared to anyone, except those who wouldn't believe otherwise. So what's today's excuse again?
The Bible we have is provably incorrect, certainly not a work of any god.
When we analyze prayer with statistics, we find no evidence that God is "answering prayers."
Huge, amazing atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS occur without any response from God.
Good luck with your proof. But sure to send us a post while you're vacationing in Hawaii with all the reward money you'll receive.
wE have the blackened peak on Mount Sinai in Arabia were God Gave the Ten Commandments the split stone that water come out and the physical evidence of it all being so. The alters in the valley below. Not to mention the prescence of the holy SPirit in which i have experienced for myself. All the proof I need along with his written Word !!!!
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#434233 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Even the Catholic theologians didn't agree ... and that is because myths are silly in the first place.
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From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following ……..
On his own authority, in 1854, Pius proclaimed the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed virgin, a dogma long desired by Mariologists, but hardly favored by liberals.
………………………
………………………
No theologian has equaled the influence of Aquinas on Roman Catholicism.
Aquinas did not believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary, which was still being debated.
I find it strange that you are trying to invoke the dead spirit of Aquinas to debate on your behalf.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434234 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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That's how the religion game is played. "Jesus didn't really mean it," say the believers. "out of context" -- 6 times.
According to the rumor-mill Jesus also loved his Jewish father ... yet he only allows entry into "Christian" heaven to those who ARE Christian.

Jews aren't allowed, and that even leaves Jesus "out" of his own picture.

Crazy stuff indeed!

It's no wonder that so many people inundated with junk-theology ended up in mental institutions blathering biblical scriptures at those that they believed needed to be WARNED of impending disaster.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434235 Apr 20, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>Like we are to believe you this time?
I suggest you don't believe anything. That way you can't go wrong.

:)
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#434236 Apr 20, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>well you people constantly say god has a plan, and everything that happens in our lives is part of that plan,so what purpose could there possibly be for giving this poor child downs syndrome? what grand plan could constitute giving someone a deadly disease/or a mental challenge? funny you people have a double standard,god is credited for anything good,but never mentioned when something goes/is wrong,yet he is the creator and great planner of our lives and events around the world.
We believe this child is a blessing from God, not some kind of punishment.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434237 Apr 20, 2013
More silly nonsense about the teaching of "sin."
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Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase & Fable by Ivor H. Evans … First published 1817.

Sinister (sin is ter)(Lat., on the left hand). Foreboding of ill; ill-omened.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434238 Apr 20, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
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Links are useless, if you are not able to present and defend a position on your own, it can be dismissed.
Why you ask? I'll tell you. Because posting a link does not demonstrate that you have any understanding on the topic.
Typical fail for those who lack skills.
I "understand."

You have no links or "skills" to refute.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434239 Apr 20, 2013
The system of logic by opposition.

If right is better ... left has to be worse.
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Cultural Anthropology by Selby Garretson

A result from psychology

In American culture we feel that things on the right are somehow better, more reliable, and stronger than things on the left.

To understand why we feel this way involves going into the languages and traditions of Western culture and asking about the symbolic history of ideas “right” and “left.” The word for “left’ in Latin is sinister, and the word for “right” is dexter.“Left” in our culture’s history has been associated with “evil” or “anomalous” or “dangerous”; while “right” is associated with the law (droit, the word for “law” in French, is derived from Latin dexter and “law” or “right”) In politics,“left” means “change society to new (sinister) forms, while “right” means “keep things as they are,” or “keep going straight ahead.” Even recently, parents used to give their left-handed children problems, and no end of moral misgiving over their “affliction.” They would often make them change to being right-handed, perhaps even doing harm to the psychological well-being of the child. This preference for right-handedness persists, even though it has been estimated that up to 10 percent of the people in America are naturally left-handed.

This system of logic by oppositions is by no means confined to our society or culture. It is found all over the world.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434240 Apr 20, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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We believe this child is a blessing from God, not some kind of punishment.
Yes, mental retardation is somehow a blessing from God.

Of course, that's not what the Bible suggests.

The Bible can be cruel and absurd sometimes.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#434241 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I suggest you don't believe anything. That way you can't go wrong.
:)
Hey simpleton, think about what you just said.
I f I take your suggestion then I can't believe what you just said. See your problem?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434242 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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According to the rumor-mill Jesus also loved his Jewish father ... yet he only allows entry into "Christian" heaven to those who ARE Christian.
Jews aren't allowed, and that even leaves Jesus "out" of his own picture.
Crazy stuff indeed!
It's no wonder that so many people inundated with junk-theology ended up in mental institutions blathering biblical scriptures at those that they believed needed to be WARNED of impending disaster.
That was an old "perfect teaching" that was found to be wrong.

Today, it's very difficult, but non-Christians can go to Heaven.

Even Protestants.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434243 Apr 20, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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We believe this child is a blessing from God, not some kind of punishment.
Of COURSE you believe the child is a blessing, but ONLY because you believe YOU are personally blessed.

I suggest you picture this.

You and Jesus in the hereafter watching your family members burn for eternity because they weren't Christians when on earth.

You turn to Jesus and say ... "You're a Jew ... how come you're not burning in hell? And suddenly Jesus is no longer there, because that image you held so dear of Jesus on earth was simply a figment of your own imagination.

That is just an analogy, as I don't believe in myths ... your favorites or other people's favorites.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434244 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
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That was an old "perfect teaching" that was found to be wrong.
Today, it's very difficult, but non-Christians can go to Heaven.
Even Protestants.
According to Billy Graham that nonsense about people having to be Christian is "old hat."

He's starting to make more sense as he prattles along with his theology.

As a Jew, Jesus would not be allowed in heaven.

Silly people!

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