Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603287 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBC News.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434209 Apr 20, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>haven't you figured it out yet? your not catholic so you don't matter,like me,if you don't belong to "the church" (snicker) you can't get into heaven,it's true, the pope said so,and he is infallible in devine teachings.
All people in all religious cults believe that their gods or goddesses give them "heads-up" treatment. If that were not so, they would not be in the cults.

Having been under the spell of religion, I understand that it was a cosy, fuzzy feeling to believe that the all-powerful god was a friend on which I could always rely.

But the extreme suffering of non-human forms of life added to all human suffering niggled at me, until I finally decided that religion didn't make any sense whatsoever, and that there had to be a more credible explanation.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434210 Apr 20, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok we will forget all the people he mercilessly butchered, we will overlook the power hungry prince who did not want to pay taxes and saw an opportunity for revolt. We will overlook your accusation of the vile pope who tried to kill him. We overlook all the historians who have discredited the legends of Luther propogated for centuries just so you can be right when I already proved your statement false. Thanks!
Thus for the last four decades the Luther-legend has not existed any longer. Serious research has taken place, and Luther and his teachings are seen in a completely different light by scholars, historians, Germanists, theologians all over the world, than they were at the beginning of the century.
Except in England. Yes, it is true. The researches and advances made in Luther studies, the German Reformation, and history during the last four decades have been utterly and completely ignored in Britain. It is not surprising that such a quite and anything but excitable philosopher as Jacques Maritain could, in a recent article on Luther, refer to “Anglo-modern stupidity”.
“I do insist on the certainty that sooner or later—once we hold power—Christianity will be overcome and the German church, without a Pope and without the Bible, and Luther, if he could be with us, would give us his blessing.”- ADOLF HITLER
(“Hitler's Speeches”, edited by Professor N. H. Baynes (Oxford, 1942), page 369).
“There is very little to be said for this coarse and foul-mouthed leader of a revolution. It is a real misfortune for humanity that he appeared just at the crisis in the Christian world. Even our burly Defender of the Faith was not a worse man, and did far less mischief. We must hope that the next swing of the pendulum will put an end to Luther's influence in Germany.”- Very Rev. W. R. Inge,(in the Church of England Newspaper”, August 4, 1944).
However, long before Hitler there were German Protestant scholars of great standing who analysed aright the part Luther played in the history of Germany.“Lutheranism played an important part in the political and military development of German Prussia,” wrote Prof. Ernst Troeltsch of Heidelberg, early in the present century.“German nationalism plus the Prussian State have made our Reich, and both have their origins in Luther,” Karl Sell
It is not always fully realised that Luther had not merely a great influence on political and social life (apart from the purely religious aspect), but that he was a political and social figure in his own times.“Luther was more of a politician than a theologian,” says Houston Stewart Chamberlain, one of his greatest admirers. He was “above all a political hero”.“It was Luther's first thought to look in the Scripture for a political reformation”. Religious and social questions mingle together in the Reformation; it was in fact quite as much a social and political revolution as a religious movement”.“Thus it was no accident that Luther was called on to take a leading part in the controversies.” Thus it happened that “Lutheranism was political”, and it is certainly with justification that a Protestant church historian calls Luther “one of the greatest politicians of Germany”(H. Hermelink in “Zeitschrift fur Kirchengeschichte”, vol. 29, 1908, p. 478).
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...
I'm not taking sides with any of them. The popes, the prince known as Friederich and Luther all ordered the killing of others.

It was their "business."

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#434211 Apr 20, 2013
“In a controversy, the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for truth and have begun striving for ourselves”

Abraham J. Heschel (Jewish theologian and philosopher, 1907-1972)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434212 Apr 20, 2013
Here is another fable on which the ancient people relied.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

"Crishna was born of a chaste virgin, called Devaki, who, on account of her purity, was selected to become the 'mother of God.'"

Doane, Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions

http://www.truthbeknown.com/virgin.htm
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#434213 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
Leprechauns.
There are lots of books, movies and fairy tales dealing with Leprechauns. People talk about Leprechauns all the time. Leprechauns even have a popular brand of breakfast cereal. But that does not mean that Leprechauns exist. There is no physical evidence for the existence of Leprechauns. Not a single bit. Therefore, it is obvious to any normal person that Leprechauns are imaginary.
If you think about it, you will realize that there is no difference between God and Leprechauns.
Lots of people talk about God as though he exists, but there is no actual evidence for God's existence.
For example:
God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth.
All historical gods were imaginary and we know it.(except for yours of course)
None of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence either.
God has never spoken to modern man, for example by taking over all the television stations and broadcasting a rational message to everyone.
The resurrected Jesus has never appeared to anyone since the Biblical myths. If then, why not now?
The Bible we have is provably incorrect and is obviously the work of primitive men rather than God.
When we analyze prayer with statistics, we find no evidence that God is "answering prayers."
Huge, amazing atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS occur without any response from God.
And so on…
There is absolutely no evidence indicating that God exists.
Look Around you.

You need to watch the video called:

When The Rocks Cry Out on the Amazing Prophecy link:

Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434214 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not taking sides with any of them. The popes, the prince known as Friederich and Luther all ordered the killing of others.
It was their "business."
"All denominations contain much error and evil ... except for mine" say the delusional.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434215 Apr 20, 2013
Some Christians especially in the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Catholic Churches regard the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Theotokos (or Mother of God).

In 300 AD she was worshipped as a Mother Goddess in the Christian sect Collyridianism, which was found throughout Saudi Arabia. Collyridianism was made up mostly of women followers and female priests. Followers of Collyridianism were known to make bread and wheat offerings to the Virgin Mary, along with other sacrificial practices. The cult was heavily condemned as heretical and schismatic by the Roman Catholic Church and was preached against by Epiphanius of Salamis, who exposed the group in his recollective writings titled Panarion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_w ...

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434216 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
"All denominations contain much error and evil ... except for mine" say the delusional.
Of course! Evil only fits for others ... and holiness fits for me, blah, blah, blah.

The myths were all created out of fear or arrogance.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434217 Apr 20, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>
Look Around you.
You need to watch the video called:
When The Rocks Cry Out on the Amazing Prophecy link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =C7dFe9_Dk1oXX
If that were not complete baloney, you and the producers of that are all rich!!!

No? If you truly believe then I suggest you contact them and tell them about the giant rewards that are available for actual proof of god.

See the Templeton Foundation for example. There are others like it.

If you had proof, you wouldn't be posting here now.

Fact -- there is no actual evidence for God's existence.

God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth.

All historical gods were imaginary and we know it.

None of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence.

The "prophecies" are laughable when studied independently and in detail.

God has never spoken to modern man.

The resurrected Jesus has never appeared to anyone, except those who wouldn't believe otherwise. So what's today's excuse again?

The Bible we have is provably incorrect, certainly not a work of any god.

When we analyze prayer with statistics, we find no evidence that God is "answering prayers."

Huge, amazing atrocities like the Holocaust and AIDS occur without any response from God.

Good luck with your proof. But sure to send us a post while you're vacationing in Hawaii with all the reward money you'll receive.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434218 Apr 20, 2013
"I know why that earthquake occurred. It's because of the evil in the world."

"What evil?"

"Look around you, can't you see the evil in the people."

"I'm looking at you, are you evil?"

"Of course NOT! I mean all those other people."

Blah, blah, blah.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#434219 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Here is another fable on which the ancient people relied.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
"Crishna was born of a chaste virgin, called Devaki, who, on account of her purity, was selected to become the 'mother of God.'"
Doane, Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions
http://www.truthbeknown.com/virgin.htm
WOW, you will fall for just about anything, huh?

Lord Krishna never took birth from the womb of his mother like a common human baby and was himself Lord Vishnu who came down to Earth from his Supreme Abode Vaikuntha to eradicate the evil forces.

See, you don't know chit!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434220 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
God has never spoken to modern man.
I suggest you talk to Pat Robertson. He bragged that he received a message from God just recently, but the god must have given him the wrong information, because Pat had to back-track and admit "something went wrong."

:)
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#434221 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Some Christians especially in the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Catholic Churches regard the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Theotokos (or Mother of God).
In 300 AD she was worshipped as a Mother Goddess in the Christian sect Collyridianism, which was found throughout Saudi Arabia. Collyridianism was made up mostly of women followers and female priests. Followers of Collyridianism were known to make bread and wheat offerings to the Virgin Mary, along with other sacrificial practices. The cult was heavily condemned as heretical and schismatic by the Roman Catholic Church and was preached against by Epiphanius of Salamis, who exposed the group in his recollective writings titled Panarion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_w ...
Like we are to believe you this time?
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434222 Apr 20, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Some Christians especially in the Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Catholic Churches regard the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Theotokos (or Mother of God).
In 300 AD she was worshipped as a Mother Goddess in the Christian sect Collyridianism, which was found throughout Saudi Arabia. Collyridianism was made up mostly of women followers and female priests. Followers of Collyridianism were known to make bread and wheat offerings to the Virgin Mary, along with other sacrificial practices. The cult was heavily condemned as heretical and schismatic by the Roman Catholic Church and was preached against by Epiphanius of Salamis, who exposed the group in his recollective writings titled Panarion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_w ...
Catholics still do. They call it "devotion," not worship.

Western Catholics now say Mary was without sin - the only other person ever to join God Jesus with that virtue.

They claim she flew up to heaven in bodily form, to reign as Queen of Heaven.

In Catholic "miracles," Mary tells us how she saves souls.

Mary is a classical goddess in all but name only.

Because females don't have equal rights.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434223 Apr 20, 2013
Flim-Flam … by James Randi

There is another thing that the reader should bear in mind. Every country in South America wishes to be considered the cradle of civilization. When I spoke with a chain-smoking bishop in Sicuani, Peru, he assured me that many Peruvians harbored the belief that the Garden of Eden was right there in the Andes.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434224 Apr 20, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
Like we are to believe you this time?
We only believe what coincides with what we already believe ... unless we keep open to the idea that there are many ways of perceiving.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434225 Apr 20, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
Like we are to believe you this time?
Links are helpful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyridianism

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434226 Apr 20, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholics still do. They call it "devotion," not worship.
Western Catholics now say Mary was without sin - the only other person ever to join God Jesus with that virtue.
They claim she flew up to heaven in bodily form, to reign as Queen of Heaven.
In Catholic "miracles," Mary tells us how she saves souls.
Mary is a classical goddess in all but name only.
Because females don't have equal rights.
Even the Catholic theologians didn't agree ... and that is because myths are silly in the first place.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>

From the book,“History of Christianity,” by Clyde L. Manschreck … comes the following ……..

On his own authority, in 1854, Pius proclaimed the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed virgin, a dogma long desired by Mariologists, but hardly favored by liberals.
………………………
………………………
No theologian has equaled the influence of Aquinas on Roman Catholicism.

Aquinas did not believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary, which was still being debated.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#434227 Apr 20, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i disagree:mat.19:24 it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
I was spoofing.

Of course Jesus was very clear. He spoke on the topic many times.

To follow Jesus was to be poor. Many of the early church fathers followed Jesus' words.

But on this board, no believers see fit to do so. They can all explain away anything that doesn't fit their wants and biases.

That's how the religion game is played. "Jesus didn't really mean it," say the believers. "out of context" -- 6 times.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#434228 Apr 20, 2013
Theologians often became violent when their illusions were confronted. If there is nothing to hide, why try to hide it?
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>

Flim-Flam … by James Randi

During two visits to the Philippines back in the 1950s, I heard of these wonders being performed some distance from Manila. When it was discovered that I wanted to visit these places and look into the claims, I was suddenly summoned to the Immigration Office, where my passport was “inspected” by being confiscated for several days. This was an effective warning that my inquiry was not welcome. The official who questioned me asked me repeatedly whether I was there representing any press service or media outlet and kept referring to “causing trouble” for “religious people.” In the end I was not only refused information but told that it could be dangerous to travel in certain remote areas of the islands. I took the hint, and when my passport was returned to me after the Canadian consulate there insisted upon it, I left without ever seeing the performance of the backwoods charlatans.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Prove there's a god. (Mar '08) 3 min Buck Crick 878,730
Poll Was 9/11 a conspiracy?? (Oct '07) 7 min Pegasus 272,879
Jehovah's Witnesses are true disciple of Jesus ... (Mar '07) 15 min RiccardoFire 41,138
anyone got cheap cigarettes for sale? (Mar '12) 43 min David96_ 15
Golden Virginia and Amber leaf wanted 1 hr David96_ 1
Poll If you're Christain what kind are you? (Oct '07) 1 hr dollarsbill 8,029
Ruthlessly GREEDY New Yorkers earned 9-11 1 hr WasteWater 14
The Christian Atheist debate 2 hr MrAnderson9 3,845
is it wrong i like to wear womens underwear (Nov '12) Sat i fkedurBeezyanally 279
More from around the web