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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688852 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Nov 08

usa

#432554 Apr 14, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
In spite of many scientific studies attempting to show that prayer works -- nothing.
Maybe we shouldn't pray for ourselves, but rather all of mankind. Maybe then the words proclaimed over and over in the Bible will come true!
Let us pray......
"Dear God, almighty, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe, we pray to you to cure every case of cancer on this planet tonight. We pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen."
Will anything happen?
If not, then -- Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16 -- are all lies?
prayer made not work,but the power of positive thinking does,i positively fight everyday that i will not die from the cancer i have.i do not quit,i will not allow it,but then again isn't prayer a positive attitude? couldn't they both be considered the same thing?
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#432555 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
There were religions long before the Genisis blather that preached of major flood. And probably a flood of such magnitude did occur ... but the people being superstitious created myths as the reason for such a flood.

You mean before Moses? Moses only edited and translated the writings to compose Genesis from firsthand witnesses accounts all the way back to Adam. Adam wrote the first few chapters. Then Enoch wrote some then Noah and so on.(Wiseman hypothesis on authorship of Genesis)
http://archive.org/details/WhoWroteTheBookOfG...

Noah's sons founded the region of Mesopotamia after the flood. Genesis is the oldest.

Claim:
The Sumer tablets are the oldest text.

Reply:
Understand how TEXT dating is done: the physical dating of an archaeological relic does not date the original TEXT in textual criticism, dated by events and persons in the text then confirmed with the sciences.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#432556 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it is my real name.
mind if i ask what you do for a living??
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432557 Apr 14, 2013
To believe that being homosexual is evil to a god caused horrific suffering and death to many innocent humans.

What a crime religion has perpetrated on humanity. What a shame that so many people were drawn to commit such horrors.
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Without Turing's genius, you might not be reading this caption
The father of the modern computer is being honoured, 50 years after he died in tragic circumstances.
Alan Turing was one of the pioneers of computer science, and his work helped make the modern PC a reality.
He was also one of the secret code breakers working at Bletchley Park during the Second World War.
He killed himself on 7 June 1954, by eating an apple he laced with cyanide. On Monday, a blue plaque will be erected outside his home in Cheshire.
Enigma buster
It was his idea of creating a machine to turn thought processes into binary numbers which was one of the key turning points in the history of the computer.
His revolutionary idea was for a machine that would read a series of ones and zeros from a tape. These described the steps needed to solve a problem or task.
Turing's experiments are credited with helping Britain win World War II by deciphering encrypted German communications, helping the Allies remain one step ahead.
Oestrogen injections
But his brilliance would not protect him from the social values of 1950s Britain, and he was taken to court because he was gay.
At the time, homosexuality was outlawed in the UK, and when Turing's relationship with a young Manchester man was discovered in 1952, he was threatened with jail.
Instead, he agreed to be injected with oestrogen for a year, in an attempt to curb his libido.
He was also denied work with GCHQ, the successor to Bletchley Park, because of his sexual orientation.
Two years after his conviction he ended his life by eating the poisoned apple.
He was discovered by his cleaner one day later.
His mother believed he had accidentally taken the cyanide after an experiment, but it is generally accepted he deliberately concocted the experiment so she could believe that.
Turing honoured
Turing may not be a household name, but his achievements have been recognised.
A road has been named after him in Manchester, where he lived for the latter years of his life when he joined Manchester University.
There is also a bronze statue of him in Sackville Park in the city's gay village, where he sits on a bench, apple in hand.
He has even featured in a Doctor Who book.
And the home of his birth in London also has a blue plaque outside, which will now be joined by a plaque outside the place of his death on Adlington Road, in Wilmslow.
The unveiling takes place at 1000 BST on Monday, in an event organised by Andrew Crompton from the University of Manchester.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432558 Apr 14, 2013
socci wrote:
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You mean before Moses?
YES! Way before the Hebrews, later to take the title of Jew, wrote the fictitious nonsense of moses, there were stories of a major flood, or possibly floods back in history.

My guess is, it goes back to the time of when humans first created some form of written language, and that was LONG before Judaism, or Islam or Christianity.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#432559 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
Of course you could leave your religion at any time. But if you are honest, that promise of salvation is what holds you TO the religion. And I suggest that you don't ever think for a moment, that wasn't the plan of the ex-Jew Catholics that started the story.
The wanted a new religion, so they gave you a Jew as a savior. They had no choice, because the god was OF the Jewish persuasion, and they couldn't create a new god and claim at the same time that there was only one god.
They out-smarted their selves.
A Jewish god would not send his Jewish son to earth to save only Catholics ... and that is exactly what the ex-Jew Catholics Insinuated in their theology.

Adam and Eve, Enoch and Noah all the way through Jacob were not Jewish. Then after the flood God chose some people to keep the faith just as Adam and Eve were chosen and Seth their lineage. The prophecies in the OT book of Daniel and Ezekiel disprove anything but inspired men, including the coming Messiah giving the exact year he would come. These were Jewish men as they were the chosen people at the time. The Bible after Messian does not support the Jewish people further disproving your claim the Jews wrote a book that does not support them.

You have just been deceived by pagan religions of evolution and big bangism masquerading as science. Another victim of the state. World history is as the Bible says.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#432560 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Humans created gods in their own images.
If we had lived in the wilderness from birth with Atheist-parents, we would know nothing of religion, and our existence would be that of survival ... where the next meal was coming from ... etc.
Religion is all about programming minds with nonsense. "My religion is based on truth, and yours is based on lies."
Such arrogance and stupidity! We don't know the future, or even if there is a future as in a hereafter.
I don't know that answer, not do I pretend to know. It will be whatever it will be ... not what anyone claims it is.
My comment was directed to your question re why did God create an imperfect man.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432561 Apr 14, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>mind if i ask what you do for a living??
I'm now a senior citizen. When I did work, I worked at many menial jobs such as working in a Dairy Queen, house cleaning for others, cone-picking and planting trees for the forestry, janitor at a school, working as a home-maker for those with handicaps, and also put in years around hospitals as a volunteer, reading, singing, playing the accordian, guitar and harmonica to shut-ins ... as an amateur of course.

For fourteen years I used my own vehicle to drive those with handicaps (two and a half hours each way) to the city for appointments with specialists. They paid the fuel only, and sometimes if they insisted I allowed them to buy my food. I was their eyes, ears and legs.

I learned a great deal about human character, including my own.

Thanks for asking.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432562 Apr 14, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>My comment was directed to your question re why did God create an imperfect man.
I don't believe in you image of a god, and I perceive that the whole theology is silly.

That was my point.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#432563 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
It's not by chance that the Catholic theologians wrote the word HOLY on the "cover" of their new testament.
Those who thought they could be HOLY were drawn to that word as a moth draws to a flame.
Even as a child I never believed that some people were holy and some were evil.
I believed that some were horribly damaged, and became emotionally disconnected from their selves, and those are the ones that in turn brutalized and murdered others without a regret of the pain inflicted on the others.
Many of those damaged humans were in religion, and claimed that a god wanted them to torture and murder others.
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The way it was
The way it is
The way it oughta be
Ain't no tellin about some things
Author unknown
Hi June I have worked with these people you describe. I understand the psychology. However that is thinking small scale. There is a bigger picture. There is a more significant battle taking place.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432564 Apr 14, 2013
your
Clay

Garden City, MI

#432565 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you could leave your religion at any time. But if you are honest, that promise of salvation is what holds you TO the religion. And I suggest that you don't ever think for a moment, that wasn't the plan of the ex-Jew Catholics that started the story.
The wanted a new religion, so they gave you a Jew as a savior. They had no choice, because the god was OF the Jewish persuasion, and they couldn't create a new god and claim at the same time that there was only one god.
They out-smarted their selves.
A Jewish god would not send his Jewish son to earth to save only Catholics ... and that is exactly what the ex-Jew Catholics Insinuated in their theology.
If you study from outside of your bible, you will see what I see. Nothing but lies, bullying, torture and murder came from those in most all religions ... including yours.
I'm sorry you have such a narrow minded view of religion. My guess is that you're not fully content with your views.
What came from the Abrahamic religion are these:
- ONE God.
-the definition of Evil, Sin and Love.

All other peoples who claim more than one god and do not acknowledge love, are not true religions. They do not offer any value to the human person. That's how I see it. Only the Abrahamic religions can offer value, because they worship the one true God and follow His commandments. They acknowledge Love as being God. Sin as being of evil. They teach that the ten commandments are from the One God.
Abrahamic religions are Jewish, Christian and Islam.
Yes, Islam worships the same God as Jews and Christians, even if we don't accept their Koran as divinely inspired. They still declare ONE God of Abraham as the only God.
Btw, I don't pretend to be a theologian or expert in world religions. I'm offering my own words here. But I have read quite a bit on this stuff. I'm still open to learn more..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432566 Apr 14, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Adam and Eve, Enoch and Noah all the way through Jacob were not Jewish. Then after the flood God chose some people to keep the faith just as Adam and Eve were chosen and Seth their lineage. The prophecies in the OT book of Daniel and Ezekiel disprove anything but inspired men, including the coming Messiah giving the exact year he would come. These were Jewish men as they were the chosen people at the time. The Bible after Messian does not support the Jewish people further disproving your claim the Jews wrote a book that does not support them.
You have just been deceived by pagan religions of evolution and big bangism masquerading as science. Another victim of the state. World history is as the Bible says.
From my perspective the theology of all humans is based on fantasy which is illusion.

You can preach it as truth if it pleases you, but I don't buy any of it. Not anymore.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432567 Apr 14, 2013
If that new testament had stated the "EVIL" bible on its cover ... it is my guess there would have been NO followers.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#432568 Apr 14, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>prayer made not work,but the power of positive thinking does,i positively fight everyday that i will not die from the cancer i have.i do not quit,i will not allow it,but then again isn't prayer a positive attitude? couldn't they both be considered the same thing?
I agree. Positive thinking has worked for me as well. I believe there is a mind-body connection. So I suppose prayer is a form of positive thinking for some.

Like Jesus told his disciples many times -- you can have the power too.

Best wishes
Clay

Garden City, MI

#432569 Apr 14, 2013
socci wrote:
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Adam and Eve, Enoch and Noah all the way through Jacob were not Jewish. Then after the flood God chose some people to keep the faith just as Adam and Eve were chosen and Seth their lineage. The prophecies in the OT book of Daniel and Ezekiel disprove anything but inspired men, including the coming Messiah giving the exact year he would come. These were Jewish men as they were the chosen people at the time. The Bible after Messian does not support the Jewish people further disproving your claim the Jews wrote a book that does not support them.
You have just been deceived by pagan religions of evolution and big bangism masquerading as science. Another victim of the state. World history is as the Bible says.
You'd be better off shutting your yap. It does no service to Christianity when people like you preach the Holy Scriptures. All you do is make people Atheist, who otherwise might not have been. You can't require normal thinking people to become deliberately stupid, just to subscribe to your version of the Bible.
Do you have any idea what its like to hear you argue that the Earth is 5,000 yrs old when scientific fact shows its millions??
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#432570 Apr 14, 2013
Clay wrote:
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What if Adam and Eve are characters in a Biblical story, illustrating the fall of human beings?
That's the part that's divinely inspired. Not whether or not a talking snake got Adam to eat an apple off the tree!
The snake tempted Eve, Eve tempted Adam.

the apple was perfectly made , the sin was Eve disobeyed God.

The catholic church presents a theory, of God but without their knowledge coming from the Holy Word of God,"THE HOLY BIBLE" they believe what they have been told by men with many faults rather from God who has no faults at all.
The Bible presents truth about Jesus, who He was, why he came, were He was born, and that He will becoming back for a Holy Righteous Pure Church.
We do know from present day knowledge and the passed history of the catholic church's crimes against humanity. it can not possibly be true , that the catholic church is the true church of God.
Religions, have done nothing more then separated all of God's people 'HIS TRUE CHURCH' In side every denomination there is a realm of God's true church who worship Him in truth and in spirit.
Who totally lift up the name of Jesus, who walk in faith, by faith in a never failing God.
Which is the only way to please God. To be true followers of God the catholic church must sell all they have and feed the starving children in the world.
This is what the early church did, Act 2;43-47 they didn't hoard their possession in cave's or in barns, away from people.
The catholic church does not follow the teachings of Jesus.
they follow the teachings of an evil, greedy ,power hungry, human being.
Who has taken the true church of God "PEOPLE" in the opposite direction then God set them.
He turned them, Just like satan turned Eve. Satan is the father of all lairs., and all who follow him are the children of satan.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432571 Apr 14, 2013
Many years back in time I ran a yearly campaign to raise money for the Red Cross.

While I ran the campaign, I also canvassed and went to individual homes asking for donations.

It was there I also learned a great deal about human nature.

One day, I went to a home up a little hill, and when I asked if the person wanted to donate, with a sour demeanor, he refused. He had a very impressive farm with a nice home built on the premises.

I thanked him for his time and went across the road to the home of another farmer where smiling kids ran around the yard playing. His home was deteriorating, the buildings in need of repair, but with a big smile the gallant host gave me twenty-five dollars for the campaign.

The kids smiled up at their father in pride.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#432572 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
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From my perspective the theology of all humans is based on fantasy which is illusion.
You can preach it as truth if it pleases you, but I don't buy any of it. Not anymore.
I think this whole world, life and the computer I'm typing on are beyond my grasp. Seriously, sometimes everything about our lives is beyond comprehension. I remember watching my youngest son being born, and thinkin 'this can't be happening'. I get why some people like you, can't grasp the thought of a creator of the Universe behind it all. Its an amazing thing to ponder; beyond our intellectual capacity.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Canada

#432573 Apr 14, 2013
Imagine all the countless ignorant men muddling about with words, all claiming to know truth.

Religion has quite the history.
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From the book “Smith’s Bible Dictionary.

Septuagint (the seventy). The Septuagint or Greek version of the Old Testament appears at the present day in four principal editions:--1. Biblia Polyglotta Complutensis, A.D. 1514—1517. 2. The Aldine Edition, Venice A.D. 1518. 3. The Roman Edition, edited under Pope Sixtus V., A.D. 1587. 4. Fac-simile Edition of the Codex Alexandrinus, by H. H. Baber, A. D. 1816.

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