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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 637673 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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marge

Leesburg, GA

#432479 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>There has been only ONE WORLD WIDE flood an d that was the flood that caused the earth to become void and without form and Jeremiah chapter 4:23-29 is talking about that flood. All the other floods have only been regional including the flood of Noah.
huh, you are way backwards tonight. Blessings

Jeremiah 4:27
For thus has the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

Why would a prophet be taking about the past?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432480 Apr 13, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
The 'idiot' is the one who doesnt know his Bible - You.
Cain is not in the list as he is not in the line to Jesus.
You are just running from place to place after it has been proven Eve had Cain. There was no pre-Adam man.
Well nw make up your mind. You claim that Adam was Cains father and he's in the bloodline of Christ yet you say that Adam was but Cain wasn't yet Adam was His father. I told you guys one of these Christians was gonna say something dumb,LOL. How can Adam be in Christ's bloodline and his supposedly oldest son Cain is not,LOL.

Have you not read the geneology of Christ as given in Luke 3 which traces Christ's bloodline all the way back to Adam yet Cain is not listed. Abel is not listed because he was slain therefore he had no progeny.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432481 Apr 13, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Your opinion vs God's word. God wins.
Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."
Your other question about Cain's wife fails to understand Adam and Eve's other children. Cain took a wife when he left.
Genesis 5:4 "And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:"
Now I would advise you to stop trying to debate things which you know VERY LITTLE about and study the following VERY CAREFULLY by following along with your bible and you will see that the sin in the garden of Eden was not the eating of produce.

http://biblestudysite.com/realsin.htm
marge

Leesburg, GA

#432482 Apr 13, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think it makes any sense whatever to believe that Adam existed.
And WHY if he hated sin, would a god with any brains create bodies so that people would be able to sin, and then punish them for being sinners?
Had he left the issue alone, the pure undefiled souls would have stayed in spirit form with the god of supposed perfection.
Religion is very childish stuff indeed.
'The idea that a god would have to create a human out of earth, bespeaks of stupidity.'

lol i thought that was your theory!

I believe He spoke and it was:)

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432483 Apr 13, 2013
And then study the following. And when you have finished then we can talk.

http://biblestudysite.com/creation.htm

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432485 Apr 13, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
huh, you are way backwards tonight. Blessings
Jeremiah 4:27
For thus has the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
Why would a prophet be taking about the past?
Sweetie, that was referring to the flood of Genesis 1 that caused the earth to become void and without form. God destroyed the earth and did not make a full end becauae He allowed the earth to remain though unhabited. And in Noahs flood there were souls that survived yet in the flood that Jeremiah describes he stated that THERE WAS NO MAN ie no one was left on this earth. Read it again.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#432488 Apr 13, 2013
418 858
Oxbow wrote:
Question for all Catholics.....
The total number of Christians martyred in the early church is unknown. Although some early writers speak of "great multitudes," modern scholars tend to believe the actual number is not so great as is sometimes imagined. Out of the 54 emperors who ruled between 30 and 311 AD, only about a dozen went out of their way to persecute Christians.
It has been calculated that between the first persecution under Nero in 64 to the Edict of Milan in 313, Christians experienced 129 years of persecution and 120 years of toleration and peace.
The Roman persecutions were generally sporadic, localized, and dependent on the political climate and disposition of each emperor. Moreover, imperial decrees against Christians were often directed against church property, the Scriptures, or clergy only. It has been estimated that more Christians have been martyred in the last 50 years than in the church's first 300 years.

QUESTION: If the Catholic church was founded by Christ, why does history show persecution of Christians...and not one Catholic!!!!!
Whadda bout it Catholics??????

QUESTION: If the Catholic church was founded by Christ, why does history show persecution of Christians...and not one Catholic!!!!!
marge

Leesburg, GA

#432489 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't talkign abot Adam and Eve though. That was referring to the races that He created before He formed Adam. Is there a contradiction in your view where in one verse He told the races to go into the earth to conquer and subdue it yet in another verse He placed the man Adam into the garden to dress it and keep it. He didn't send him out into the world. Aren't you guys not able to see that the sunday school lessons that you have learned all your lives about creation have left you misled?
I know what your talking about, the heavenly realm. Still you have made a point about it all.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#432490 Apr 13, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
So if Eve was already impregnated when Adam "KNEW" her she would still be abl;e to say that she had gotten a man from the Lord. What the Biblically Illiterate fail to realize is that Cain and Abel were fraternal twins. One fathered by ...well the one that tempted her in the garden and then she became impregnated by Adam, Abels father. This is way beyond what you are able to handle so don't sweat it. That's the reason that Cain is not listed in Adams geneology. ADAM WAS NOT HIS FATHER.
You guys are clueless on what took place in that garden. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM EATING ANY KIND OF FORBIDDEN PRODUCE.
i'M GONNA LET THIS ALONE BECAUSE THIS IS TO ADVANCED FOR YOU at this time. You still require milk as opposed to the milk of Gods word.

Your opinion vs God's word. God wins.

Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

The passage is not symbolic. It is literal. No symbolism being used.

You are filled with every known error. There is not two creation events. Gen 2 is a more detailed account of the 6th day.

Two creations?

http://creation.com/genesis-contradictions
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#432492 Apr 13, 2013
Jeremiah 4 is about the end of the world.

Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, see, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, see, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

Jer.25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432493 Apr 13, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
All their flood stories come from the Biblical account. GENESIS is the oldest text on the planet.
http://archive.org/details/WhoWroteTheBookOfG...
After the flood Noah's sons founded the Land of Kish where Sumeria is, and founded Babylon.
"Kish was occupied beginning in the Jemdet Nasr period (3100 BC), gaining prominence as one of the pre-eminent powers in the region during the early dynastic period.
The Sumerian king list states that it was the first city to have kings following the deluge, beginning with Jushur."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kish_ (Sumer)
"Cush, son of Ham. The Empire of Kush to the south of Egypt is known from at least 1970 BC, but this name has also been associated by some with the Kassites who inhabited the Zagros area of Mesopotamia, the Sumerian city of Kish in the Land of Kish."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Noah#Ham...
"The Sumerian Kish, the first city established in Mesopotamia after the Flood, took its name from the man known in the Bible as Cush. The first kingdom established after the Flood was Kish, and the name "Kish" appears often on clay tablets. The early post-Flood Sumerian king lists say that "kingship descended from heaven to Kish" after the Flood."
continues:
http://davelivingston.com/nimrod.htm
The science and history confirms a global flood. Since there was a global flood, how did mankind survive?
Actually the Sumerian people were the people to whom Cain fled after he was driven out form Adam and Evet ect. They became the most advanced race of their time because of the knowledge that Cain taught them who in turn was taught by his BIOLOGICAL father Satan. Satan was a most wise and intelligent entity as we are told in scripture and it stands to reason that he would teach much of this knowledge to his son Cain. Have you ever read the book SARGON THE MAGNIFICENT ( who was none other than Cain) by Sidney Bristowe.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432494 Apr 13, 2013
socci wrote:
Jeremiah 4 is about the end of the world.
Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, see, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, see, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
Jer.25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.
Right Jeremiah 4 is indeed about the end of the world as it ended in Genesis 1 when it ended and became void and without form.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#432495 Apr 14, 2013
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Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Now I would advise you to stop trying to debate things which you know VERY LITTLE about and study the following VERY CAREFULLY by following along with your bible and you will see that the sin in the garden of Eden was not the eating of produce.
http://biblestudysite.com/realsin.htm
T. Tony,From the rich pool of profound, perceptive, and exceptional minds and souls who have reflected and expounded on Genesis, we learn that produce had nothing to do with humankind's fall and neither did God's "punishment". From the web page writers disoriented starting point for his critique of the Christian position of this, we can discern his lack of research into the breadth of theology of the Church. I find this genre of Church criticism enticing in its own unique way both for its clever meanderings of creativity by which they explain scripture and their brashness and lack of respect theology that they would never practice when dealing with philosophy, etc. This type of writers will always find their following among those who love to pique authority and institutions.
But do they have the mettle to take on the those who dealt in a substantial and sophisticated way with the issues they comment on?
No, they must instead limit their pseudo-scholarly theses to the confines of the bowels of the internet.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#432496 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think it makes any sense whatever to believe that Adam existed. The idea that a god would have to create a human out of earth, bespeaks of stupidity.
And WHY if he hated sin, would a god with any brains create bodies so that people would be able to sin, and then punish them for being sinners?
Had he left the issue alone, the pure undefiled souls would have stayed in spirit form with the god of supposed perfection.
Religion is very childish stuff indeed.
Good question. Issue to be examined? Did a perfect God create a perfect man or did he create a man in His image, who, in a loving relationship with Him could grow in His perfection as He developed more and more union and love with God. Did God abandon man or did man, in His free will abandon God?
Preston

Athens, OH

#432497 Apr 14, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
]<quoted text>T. Tony,From the rich pool of profound, perceptive, and exceptional minds and souls who have reflected and expounded on Genesis, we learn that produce had nothing to do with humankind's fall and neither did God's "punishment". From the web page writers disoriented starting point for his critique of the Christian position of this, we can discern his lack of research into the breadth of theology of the Church. I find this genre of Church criticism enticing in its own unique way both for its clever meanderings of creativity by which they explain scripture and their brashness and lack of respect theology that they would never practice when dealing with philosophy, etc. This type of writers will always find their following among those who love to pique authority and institutions.
But do they have the mettle to take on the those who dealt in a substantial and sophisticated way with the issues they comment on?
No, they must instead limit their pseudo-scholarly theses to the confines of the bowels of the internet.
this was a great educational reply, tell Sera she did a great job on it.lol.

anywhoo,it is great to see you posting again. best wishes to you and her.
Lafdin

Lansdale, PA

#432498 Apr 14, 2013
Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>Good question. Issue to be examined? Did a perfect God create a perfect man or did he create a man in His image, who, in a loving relationship with Him could grow in His perfection as He developed more and more union and love with God. Did God abandon man or did man, in His free will abandon God?
Or is our concept of perfect incorrect?

Hi HS! Saw your name in the thread list and just wanted to say Hi

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#432499 Apr 14, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Your opinion vs God's word. God wins.
Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."
The passage is not symbolic. It is literal. No symbolism being used.
You are filled with every known error. There is not two creation events. Gen 2 is a more detailed account of the 6th day.
Two creations?
http://creation.com/genesis-contradictions
Read the link I posted about the two creation ev ents and hopefully you will be able to see that when God finished creating during the 6 days,He rested and then He """FORMED" "" Adam on the 8 day and placed him into the garden to keep it unlike those that He created on the 6the day and told them to subdue the world and replenish it. That was indeed NOT a more detailed account of the 6 day creation account. Are you afraid to read the link I posted about the two creation events? Is your faith that weak?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#432500 Apr 14, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
1 billion Protestant denominations - it matters not. Each have their own personal relationship with Jesus as they understand the Bible. Each are at a different level of understanding, just as you are. The RC & Pope has no part in this. No usurpt authority.
Believe what you want! I/we as Catholics ALREADY know, adhere to, and rely on the TRUTH of OVER 2000 years of TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY and TRUE BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION that is confirm, verified and authenticated over and over again by documented writings from the Early Church Fathers,highly accredited Church Historian authors and writers and the majority of Apologist historians (both Catholic and Protestant,as to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) True Catholic Church (Matthew 16:13-21..... Your different levels of "bible only" understanding is nothing but a "contradicting chaos" of more and more "Relative Truth" (half-truth-if that) Christianity, where each person decides for themselves "what is truth"!! Each of you 42,000 different Protestant denominations, "editorializing the interpretation of the Bible" for yourselves, some believing in gay marriage, others abortion, still others euthenasia, divorce, woman ministers, embroyonic stem cell research, homosexual ministers, and God only knows "whats next". The fact is that you "fundamentalist" have (bought into) the distorted lies and deception" of the "secular humanism and political correctness" with your bible only "editorial interpretation" in which your "personal opinion" is the final authority. God "never has, nor ever will be" the author of your bible only conflicting, inconsistent and contradicting Protestant confusion and chaos!!!

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#432501 Apr 14, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
Question for all Catholics.....
The total number of Christians martyred in the early church is unknown. Although some early writers speak of "great multitudes," modern scholars tend to believe the actual number is not so great as is sometimes imagined. Out of the 54 emperors who ruled between 30 and 311 AD, only about a dozen went out of their way to persecute Christians.
It has been calculated that between the first persecution under Nero in 64 to the Edict of Milan in 313, Christians experienced 129 years of persecution and 120 years of toleration and peace.
The Roman persecutions were generally sporadic, localized, and dependent on the political climate and disposition of each emperor. Moreover, imperial decrees against Christians were often directed against church property, the Scriptures, or clergy only. It has been estimated that more Christians have been martyred in the last 50 years than in the church's first 300 years.
QUESTION: If the Catholic church was founded by Christ, why does history show persecution of Christians...and not one Catholic!!!!!
Ollie, being Roman Catholic, like myself says that in the early days followers of Jesus Christ were called Christians as they are still called today.

As the congregations grew in 'each' area / city / town etcetera, the Greek word 'catholic' was used. The word means 'whole universe' in Greek and it was very appropriate to use this term as the whole world in those days was limited to the lands of the Roman Empire and a few other points beyond. The Romans, of course, had been to Britain, but had no idea of what countries lay across any of the great seas.

Horrraaaay for Catholics....

...and my Ollie sure knows his stuffys tooo.

Go Figure.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#432502 Apr 14, 2013
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The old testament is the complete will of Jehovah. His Jews were his chosen few ... end of story.
:)
Ollie says that you are the 'end of story'.

With schidt-for-brains like yours, you are full of schidt to the eyeballs.

I believe that the only education that you have is that which you gleaned from the ILK that tossed swill over the rails of your pigPen.

Go Figure.

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