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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 650248 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431987 Apr 10, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
972
<quoted text>
Jesus was not..is not God the Father
Even as true worshipers of God recognize that the will or desire of God is superior to their own will or desire, Jesus acknowledged God's will was superior to his own. In acknowledging this, Jesus indicates that he was inferior to God. Thus, at the time just before his death, the Bible says, at Luke 22:41 & 42:
"And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless, not my will, but thine, be done."
At the time of Jesus' resurrection from the dead, Jesus spoke to Mary Magdalene, as described in the Book of John, at chapter 20 and verse 17, which reads:
"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."
Inasmuch as Mary was not ascending, but Jesus was, this passage is telling us that Jesus was going to ascend to heaven, where his father already was - the one he describes here as his God.
A common error for those that do not understand the Trinity, which indeed is a very complex study even for the most learned of theologians.

But Jesus is God. The human aspect of Jesus is not God, and thus the above passages you speak of. But the spiritual aspect is God. This is why so many have trouble understanding this, and why the heresy of Arianism has run so rampant throughout history. Only God can forgive all for sins, only God can make this ultimate sacrifice, no lesser being can.

Are you a Jehovah Witness, or Mormon then brother?
truth

Australia

#431988 Apr 10, 2013
Where is my Father and your Father?
Heaven=please ..who is already prepare long time ago since foundation of this Earth.
now
Heaven=Nevaeh
ti si dusa duse moje=soul of my soul
ti si suza suze moje=tears of my tears
Who not forgot his tears?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431989 Apr 10, 2013
marge wrote:
Ox, do you pray to the Father in Jesus' name?
Does the sun rise in the East?
truth

Australia

#431990 Apr 10, 2013
Did you lift up your soul?
proverb 3;23
guard your heart..within is life..
my soul souls of my soul
tears of my tears..

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#431991 Apr 10, 2013
987
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
A common error for those that do not understand the Trinity, which indeed is a very complex study even for the most learned of theologians.
But Jesus is God. The human aspect of Jesus is not God, and thus the above passages you speak of. But the spiritual aspect is God. This is why so many have trouble understanding this, and why the heresy of Arianism has run so rampant throughout history. Only God can forgive all for sins, only God can make this ultimate sacrifice, no lesser being can.
Are you a Jehovah Witness, or Mormon then brother?
On this...the Catholics got it right. From the Catholic Encylcopedia: Christ, Jesus - The incarnate Son of God and the redeemer of the human race....

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431992 Apr 10, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
I did and answered them.
Thanks for posting!
I'm afraid I don't see the answers.

There were several responses with questions, but the one about your world view is the one that needs answering. See above.

The way you speak of Gnosticism is not what most websites about it state, so we need clarification.

Do you, or do you not regard the human race as mostly evil, mostly good, or neither?

I realize you are here to attack the Catholic Church. There is no RCC, it was never called the "Roman" Catholic Church ... and you should have known that had you really studied history and the Church.

And I am here to do what I can to unite Christians against common enemies, which are Muslims, Secular Humanists, various socialist movements, and anyone that attacks free will and strives for some kind of compulsive system of belief, religious or secular. And of course, various heresies that seek to divide and confuse Christians and confound their salvation.

Therefore, I openly condemn Protestants attacking Catholics, and Catholics fighting Protestants. I know this is not what Jesus wants, and I know there is merit on both sides, if only pride and arrogance is left behind on both sides.

Just so we are clear where we stand.

I am open to any kind of evidence that your gospels are valid. But really, without a civilization that has grown up with those gospels, how can we judge it's merits? And of course, you've already judged the merits of Western Europe, so in your heart you are convinced of great evil bring born from Christianity.

But who are you to judge so many dead Christians throughout the ages? And how can you compare your gospel's influence to ours, when we have a civilization, and you do not?

These are telling questions.
truth

Australia

#431993 Apr 10, 2013
they play wicket game trough garage door..who try poison her..o yes water fill up in bottle with funny
things..see.
i guard very well against evil people and politics of them over my family..byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

what is next

i spill water out..see poison
who try do that to her or what..
wicket satanic develish people..o yes ministers know that..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyy evil people
is that black mask
truth

Australia

#431994 Apr 10, 2013
is that kind put in bottle poison..o yes..thank you very much..i think you love me..o did you..
byyyyyyyyy
how many time you need forgive
77x gtc

if i am not in my mind what they doing to me switch off evil spirit which they constantly trough garage door do as they always do..they still going on and on and on evil way..
is that crime
no why should be

i just mention how much i am aware about evil and politics as well religion..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyy
truth

Australia

#431995 Apr 10, 2013
they know who do that because they are organize..
by..
truth

Australia

#431996 Apr 10, 2013
devil always say prove ..no evidence..
truth

Australia

#431997 Apr 10, 2013
sad cu prolit gorivo od kosilice iz garage jer na slici slici na cep i grlo sto se gorivo lije

oh yes i need that drove out
before they do something too
i will see on photo extra more which symbol they prepeare..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#431999 Apr 10, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
I realize you are here to attack the Catholic Church. There is no RCC, it was never called the "Roman" Catholic Church ... and you should have known that had you really studied history and the Church.
And I am here to do what I can to unite Christians against common enemies, which are Muslims, Secular Humanists, various socialist movements, and anyone that attacks free will and strives for some kind of compulsive system of belief, religious or secular. And of course, various heresies that seek to divide and confuse Christians and confound their salvation.
Therefore, I openly condemn Protestants attacking Catholics, and Catholics fighting Protestants. I know this is not what Jesus wants, and I know there is merit on both sides, if only pride and arrogance is left behind on both sides.
Just so we are clear where we stand.
I am open to any kind of evidence that your gospels are valid. But really, without a civilization that has grown up with those gospels, how can we judge it's merits? And of course, you've already judged the merits of Western Europe, so in your heart you are convinced of great evil bring born from Christianity.
But who are you to judge so many dead Christians throughout the ages? And how can you compare your gospel's influence to ours, when we have a civilization, and you do not?
These are telling questions.

chatter with nooo bible or history is unhelpful.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#432000 Apr 10, 2013
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Provide the name of these theologians who said the Roman Catholics wrote the Bible. The Jews wrote every word in the Bible other than those written by Luke. All of which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
You said, quote, "The early Christians were Catholic. That is an absolute fact, on the name of Jesus Christ Himself, our Lord. Do not argue with me, tell that to the Savior you proclaim to believe, while denouncing His Church in the same breath." End quote.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered. The early Christians were JEWISH....you moron. Was Peter a Jew? Yes or no. If not you better re-write Acts 10. When did the Church have it's beginning.....Pentecost. Read Acts 2. Was Paul a Jew? Yes or no. Was John a Jew? Yes or no. How about Jesus? Was He a Jew or was he a Roman Catholic?
You said, quote "Woe to those that cause the children of God to stumble." End quote.
Try reading these verses......
Galatians 1:8-9, 8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Go back to your hole. You are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Every Baptist I know would disown you and your theology from hell.
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Prayers for the dead
Making the sign of the cross
Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images
Mass a daily ritual
Exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God"
Extreme Unction
Purgatory
Latin used in worship
Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels
Kissing the pope's feet
Temporal power of popes
Veneration of cross, images, relics
Holy water
Fasting on Fridays and Lent
Mass as a sacrifice and attendance made mandatory
Celibacy of priests
Rosary
Sale of indulgences
Seven sacraments
Transubstantiation
Confession to a priest instead of God
Adoration of the wafer (Jesus is a cracker)
The cup forbidden to the laity at communion
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible
Apocryphal books are added to the Bible
Immaculate conception of Mary (actually deception)
Salvation by baptism
Infallibility of the pope
Assumption of Mary
Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church"
Do Baptists believe these things? I think not. You are no Baptist. You are a Roman Catholic in Baptist clothing. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand more than you do, brother. I think it's time you left the theology to the experts. Keep a child-like faith, and do not trouble your elders.
Why not answer the questions instead of ducking them. Provide the names of the theologians you quoted. Also, which Roman Catholic wrote the Bible?

Was Jesus a Jew or a Roman Catholic? How about Paul, Peter, John, Andrew, Barnabus and on and on and on?

Have you ever read Acts 2 and Acts 10?

Baptist? Surely not SBC. Adrian Rogers would roll over in his grave to hear one of his Baptist brothers speak as you speak. Again, you are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
truth

Australia

#432001 Apr 11, 2013
you not judging nothing at all
you are not me
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo
all angels saints marty and demons will fall.
now
why you going fall if you are god..

be very carefull what so ever
if i need i will remove not this globe all of them as flip flop..
now
i just say be good
who have that did you know
truth

Australia

#432002 Apr 11, 2013
i am alright
asked yourself ''?''
who

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#432003 Apr 11, 2013
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Prayers for the dead (not forbidden)
Making the sign of the cross (not forbidden)
Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images (not forbidden)
Mass a daily ritual (Mandated by Our Lord Himself)
Exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God" (Because she is)
Extreme Unction (Mandated by God)
Purgatory (All sins must be purged before coming before God)
Latin used in worship (wow, not forbidden, and totally cool)
Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels (Absolutely wrong, prayers are ASKED for)
Kissing the pope's feet (voluntary, nor forbidden)
Temporal power of popes (of course, so?)
Veneration of cross, images, relics (absolutely, and not forbidden)
Holy water (damned right, we need it for vampires.)
Fasting on Fridays and Lent (Fasting is mandatory)
Mass as a sacrifice and attendance made mandatory (Of course, it's all about JESUS, it better be mandatory!)
Celibacy of priests (not forbidden, and only in the Latin Rite, priests may marry in the other Rites)
Rosary (not forbidden, and admittedly a little weird)
Sale of indulgences (not anymore, and definitely an error. Priests are still sinners after all)
Seven sacraments (Yeah, totally valid and fully supported by Scripture)
Transubstantiation (a little weird, but legit)
Confession to a priest instead of God (not forbidden)
Adoration of the wafer (well, Jesus commanded we eat him, several times. Get over it.)
The cup forbidden to the laity at communion (For supporters of gay marriage and pro-aborts, you betcha!)
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible (Of course it does. Sacred Tradition and Scripture are both God's word!)
Apocryphal books are added to the Bible (Says who? Martin Luther? No authority.)
Immaculate conception of Mary (Arianism and heresy, all Protestants except this)
Salvation by baptism (Totally wrong, Catholics do not believe this)
Infallibility of the pope (ex cathedra, look it up)
Assumption of Mary (questionable, but not worth fighting about)
Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church" (maybe Catholics go a little too far ... but she DID give birth to Jesus for crying out loud. Only one was worthy of that task, so show some respect!)

"Do Baptists believe these things? I think not."

Never claimed Baptists believed these things. Now, is any of the above worth keeping Christians apart over? Absolutely not.

Woe to those that cause the children of God to stumble.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#432004 Apr 11, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible (Of course it does. Sacred Tradition and Scripture are both God's word!)
What most Protestants and even some Catholics, fail to realize and understand is that THE BIBLE---- "IS" TRADITION"!---whether it is written or whether it is the unwritten (oral teachings of Jesus from His Apostles)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#432006 Apr 11, 2013
who="hojo"
What most Protestants and even some Catholics, fail to realize and understand is that THE BIBLE---- "IS" TRADITION"!---whether it is written or whether it is the unwritten (oral teachings of Jesus from His Apostles)

((((((((((

That is not what Jesus said about it.

KM
truth

Australia

#432007 Apr 11, 2013
Please tell me what Jesus say..did you see him?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#432008 Apr 11, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Provide the name of these theologians who said the Roman Catholics wrote the Bible. The Jews wrote every word in the Bible other than those written by Luke. All of which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
You said, quote, "The early Christians were Catholic. That is an absolute fact, on the name of Jesus Christ Himself, our Lord. Do not argue with me, tell that to the Savior you proclaim to believe, while denouncing His Church in the same breath." End quote.
You are the dumbest person I have ever encountered. The early Christians were JEWISH....you moron. Was Peter a Jew? Yes or no. If not you better re-write Acts 10. When did the Church have it's beginning.....Pentecost. Read Acts 2. Was Paul a Jew? Yes or no. Was John a Jew? Yes or no. How about Jesus? Was He a Jew or was he a Roman Catholic?
You said, quote "Woe to those that cause the children of God to stumble." End quote.
Try reading these verses......
Galatians 1:8-9, 8 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."
Go back to your hole. You are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Every Baptist I know would disown you and your theology from hell.
Roman Catholics believe the following:
Prayers for the dead
Making the sign of the cross
Veneration of angels, dead saints, and images
Mass a daily ritual
Exaltation of Mary, term "Mother of God"
Extreme Unction
Purgatory
Latin used in worship
Prayers offered to Mary, dead saints and angels
Kissing the pope's feet
Temporal power of popes
Veneration of cross, images, relics
Holy water
Fasting on Fridays and Lent
Mass as a sacrifice and attendance made mandatory
Celibacy of priests
Rosary
Sale of indulgences
Seven sacraments
Transubstantiation
Confession to a priest instead of God
Adoration of the wafer (Jesus is a cracker)
The cup forbidden to the laity at communion
Tradition has equal authority with the Bible
Apocryphal books are added to the Bible
Immaculate conception of Mary (actually deception)
Salvation by baptism
Infallibility of the pope
Assumption of Mary
Mary proclaimed the "Mother of the Church"
Do Baptists believe these things? I think not. You are no Baptist. You are a Roman Catholic in Baptist clothing. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
<quoted text>
Why not answer the questions instead of ducking them. Provide the names of the theologians you quoted. Also, which Roman Catholic wrote the Bible?
Was Jesus a Jew or a Roman Catholic? How about Paul, Peter, John, Andrew, Barnabus and on and on and on?
Have you ever read Acts 2 and Acts 10?
Baptist? Surely not SBC. Adrian Rogers would roll over in his grave to hear one of his Baptist brothers speak as you speak. Again, you are nothing more than a Roman Catholic pretending to be a Baptist. Much like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Do you understand?
They were all Catholics. What, did you think they were Presbyterian Evangelical Lutherans?

You ever read the Epistle of Barnabas?
He quotes the 7 Books missing from your Bible.
He is clear on salvation and justification.
He believers in the Bread and Wine as the literal being of Jesus Christ. The Eucharist that you make fun of.

Yeah Old G, they were all Catholic just like us.

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