Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
truth

Perth, Australia

#431628 Apr 7, 2013
goodnes and evil will be seperate o yes i hope..
not will all as they wish..because you can only 3x wish then not more finish..
now
even angels demons all of them will fall..o yes on the end

Are you for sure its not God plain..as you see tweested things then burn in fire rejection will be..
why i am wrong ..please tell me ..
um =mind..mind of many is deep as well hard search..yes..but if not in heart who art every heart..are you for sure you not stolen something?
truth

Perth, Australia

#431629 Apr 7, 2013
tweet and twisted
see pro-talk
kad izgovaras tudju rijec a izgleda drugacije a govori isto..koliko ima razlike ili slicnosti u izgovoru..
Preston

Waverly, OH

#431630 Apr 7, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You are being led by a spirit...and it ain't Holy!!!!
tony's avatar is a good example that his spirit is not of God. if it was, those words would not be prevalent, what he lusts for in his heart is just as bad as actually doing it.
Preston

Waverly, OH

#431631 Apr 7, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
Those of you tht use the NIV for Bible study. T Rupert Murdock, the owner of the porn magazine known as Hustler is also the copyright owner of the NIV bible. Do you guys actually trust that Bible? If you guys use that Bible to study with then in my opinion you deserve to be deceived.
you are as clueless as the sda's on here. doesn't flint still own hustler?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#431632 Apr 7, 2013
Why The Catholic Church is Jesus Christs One True Church!

As a former "bible only" Protestant and a convert to the Catholic Church, I am not here to judge anyone else's faith or their personal salvation in Jesus Christ! Only God can make that judgement regarding heaven or hell!...... I have many born-again Lutheran friends whom I openly dialogue with!...... We are all brothers and sisters in Christ and we all respect each other denominational differences and share each others journey with our one Lord!...... Yes–The Catholic Church IS the One True Apostolic Church!......It is not the only Church-----but it is the One True Church established, initiated and formed by Jesus Himself over 2000 years ago, confirmed over and over again in Apostolic Church History..... It was Martin Luther who chose to break the Apostolic succession and reject the fullness of Christian doctrine of faith that Jesus and His Apostles originally formed....... Luther was followed by other Protestant reformers: Zwingli (in Zurich), then the Anabaptists (in Holland), then John Calvin, then John Knox, then Hus, then the Episcopalians, then the Methodists, and on and on!
Yes, there are many Churches,(yes, committed to Jesus Christ) but only One True Apostolic Church. All of these are off-shoots of Jesus Christs original Church—--all of which have the faith, and possess Gods grace—----but they do not possess the FULLNESS of the faith, the FULLNESS of Gods grace and the FULLNESS of the Truth since they have chosen to “throw-out and dis-reguard” the SACRED TRADITION which Paul refers to in the New Testament,----- of which the FULLNESS of Catholic Churches teaching, had been originally, been past down for 1500 years prior to Luther....... The Protestant Churches exist on “Cheap Grace”------Grace that God does not nor has not cheapened---but–it is mans Choice to cheapen His grace by rejecting the fullness of Gods teachings, doctrines and gifts that he originally conveyed to the early Christians. This is why non-Catholics are refused the Eucharist; the TRUE and consecrated body and blood of Christ—if a person chooses not to accept all of the teachings of Christs true Church, yes–they are refused communion—Some Protestants believe it is a wafer an oreo cookie,or a just a symbol–some believe that abortion is O.K, some believe in Gay marriage, homosexuality is O.K.,some in Euthenasia, embroyonic stem cell research, and the list goes on–The Catholic faith is not a cafeteria, a smorgasbord of cherry picking–one must believe in the teachings of the Church (all) to remain in the Grace of God to accept the Eucharist and the Sacraments! This is precisely why Paul, in I Timothy 3:15 calls "The Church (not the bible alone) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH". There is "only one TRUTH"----NOT 42,000 different contradictory "relative truths" that are self-opinionized with "personal "editorial interpretations of the bible alone! The Church (Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church, has, is , and will always be, the final authority, as Paul said.... Gods blessings to all as we continue our Christian faith in this Esster season!
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431633 Apr 7, 2013
Xians will never agree. This board is proof.

Why not?

Because religion is a delusion.

No one knows if a god or gods even exist, yet alone knowing what a god or god wants from us.

The delusion starts with an ideal and spreads from there. It soons becomes so convoluted that the original ideal is lost.

But the lazy can now have all the answers to life's questions - just by going with the Force (holy spirit) Luke.
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431634 Apr 7, 2013
Some delusions come pre-packaged, so almost no thought or introspection is required.

The most prepackaged delusions are capable of almost any atrocity.

The Roman Catholic church is the most pre-packaged Xian delusion. Until Vatican 2, the flock was to be led like sheep, by the morally superior ones.(Amazingly many catholics resist that change today.)

Look at what happens when people have such a prepackaged delusion.

It is no accident that Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco came from countries with the most prepackaged delusions in Europe at the time.

Almost no self-thought is required.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431635 Apr 7, 2013
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Pad

Rockford, IL

#431636 Apr 7, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
As a gay man I would like to tell the forum something. America seems to be on the road to ruination for they seem to be heading towards approving gay marriage. People, you need to start struggling against this for if America does approve of gay marriage I assure you that this is gonna invite Gods judgement against this country.
No to Gay marriage.
Tony17,I doubt any will disagree with you here.Nevertheless the wicked designs of men are being fulfilled,because, their time is at hand.The Lawlessness of human kind will triumph for seasons to come as well.Not saying that we should not protest,or give our voice on the matter,we should.However,this country will buckle under to the Gay avalanche,as you know every aspect of our media is inundated with gay references,and acting,shows to make people feel sorry for gays who are somewhat persecuted.

The real problem is that now the gays will use all of their "fight" as it were to sit in the sacred place,and to demand that their life style be considered a righteous act,an alternative to the many conflicts in the hetero-sexual relationships. Women can fianlly find fulfillment in another woman and the same for men,and it will be accepted by not only society,but the Church as well.

Civil Unions are already well established in European countries for gays and lesbians,not same-sex marriage YET. Same-Sex marriage invades the very core of Marriage as ancient between the two sexes(Male and Female).It will be interesting how long our planet will go on after this great incisive blow by Satan to destroy the oldest and ancient institution of marriage between a, m a n and a, w o m a n.

The uniqueness of the joining of a man and a woman has been deeply etched into our psyche,it will have consequences in the whole stability of life.If women were not demeaned before enough,this same-sex marriage will target the eligible female who seeks to marry a man as something foul.Many young women will be considered old fashioned and troublesome because they want to marry the man of their choice,society will look down on it eventually and mock women who keep themselves for their future male husband. The ramifications will be horrible in the LEGAL settings as well.

You can't take something as powerful as the institution of marriage between a man and a woman which God Himself has long blessed,berate it and not have consequences.God's judgments are never held back by the will of man.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#431637 Apr 7, 2013
Religion - A Delusion wrote:
Some delusions come pre-packaged, so almost no thought or introspection is required.
The most prepackaged delusions are capable of almost any atrocity.
The Roman Catholic church is the most pre-packaged Xian delusion. Until Vatican 2, the flock was to be led like sheep, by the morally superior ones.(Amazingly many catholics resist that change today.)
Look at what happens when people have such a prepackaged delusion.
It is no accident that Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco came from countries with the most prepackaged delusions in Europe at the time.
Almost no self-thought is required.
There is some truth to what you say,but the fact still remains,that no matter how dumb we are in being led,G O D Himself interrupts our delusions of Him by showing Himslef every so often as being the opposite of our delusion.YES religious have delusions,but the Bible along with the Spirit of Truth OFTEN interfere with our misconception of WHO and What God is in truth.

For centuries many people would never consider that God is a loving FATHER,but now we have the greatest inspiration of knowing that He in fact is a loving Father.You might want to consider that as well,since no doubt you had a father.EVEN if he might not have been a loving one,a father represents one who protects and cares for those in his charge.

You bring up evil men like Hitler and Mussolini,and there are so many more,the thing is our society is ripe for a demigog despot as well.What will be the reason for his or her rise to power?

Believing in God does not destroy ones intellect,it opens it up to realms that go beyond your limited scope of thinking,you should consider believing,it is your choice.
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#431638 Apr 7, 2013
The Good News

"It is because of Him (The Father) that you are in Christ Jesus (His Lamb), who has become for us wisdom from GOD--that is (Christ Jesus is), our righteousness, holiness and redemption." http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/1-30.htm

THANK YOU ABBA! THANK YOU CHRIST JESUS! And 'thank you' unfallen angels for you example in trusting GOD!

Now: http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/6-20.htm Read the Excellent Information (Cross References) to the right as well.

http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/9-25.htm

GOD'S Description of His people: http://bible.cc/revelation/12-17.htm

http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/14.ht... note vs 12

GOD'S New Covenant with mankind: http://bible.cc/hebrews/10-16.htm - http://niv.scripturetext.com/exodus/20.htm
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431639 Apr 7, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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I defend your God given right to believe or disbelieve...it is your choice..but....guess what!!!
Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
You are delusional. You have created a self-centered delusion to make yourself special. No virtue required. No self-inspection required. It's so dang easy!

Your delusion makes you think you have all the answers and your angry little god is going to deny 90% or more of its own creation for some bizarre reason.

How does this make you a better person?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431640 Apr 7, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
There IS NOTHING TO DEBATE!! Go read the Catholic Catechism and the Encyclical if you want answers.--- I know EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING that is in the Catechism and the Encyclicals. Discover and read it for yourself! I spent over 4 years researching these documents and writings. NOT WORTH MY TIME discussing your anti-catholic "personal editorialized opinions vs the TRUTH OF SACRED SCRIPTURE AND THE TRUTH OF APOSTOLIC CHURCH HISTORY!! Go argue with your other 42,000 bible only inconsistent and contradicting protestant interpretors of Sacred Scripture.
as stated before reading Catholic Catechism and the Encyclical is a waste of time because it only applies to the man made pagan/christian church,i have looked in the scriptures and the bible and there is nothing written that supports the validity that they are sacred writings,they were written by order of a pagan emperor and 100 learned men,not god chosen men,just men hand picked by Constantine, a pagan.and another way to prove your church is phony,give me an honest explanation on how the pagan/christian church can be THE TRUTH OF APOSTOLIC CHURCH, when pope Leo X was not elected pope because his father bought the chair for him ahead of time? you call that succession?? i don't and i seriously doubt god/Jesus would either.Your church was created to keep peace in the roman kingdom during the reign of the emperors,after that it sought to destroy all other religions and anyone who did not believe in the church by way of alleged pope/god sanctioned crusades where thousands were killed for nothing. the church is for itself not it's followers,it's intent is money and power,why else do they want to be a separate country within a country and they allowed priests,bishops,cardinals and popes to abuse children,that tells me they do not care about people,they do as long as you put money in the collection plate,if not your worthless to them.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431641 Apr 7, 2013
Preston wrote:
<quoted text>you are as clueless as the sda's on here. doesn't flint still own hustler?
I believe Larry flint sold the magazine and retired,it had such great articles in them.you always found the best articles in the center of the book.
youtube

AOL

#431642 Apr 7, 2013
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST_______



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7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431643 Apr 7, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think of this concerning the """JEWS" "".
http://www.theseason.org/ezra/ezra2.htm
This had never been brought to my attention before. It is a very interesting study and appreciate you posting the link.

I look forward to studying into it deeper.
Thanks.

I Have always thought scripture was referring to spiritual Israel in prophecy many times where most would apply it to the worldly nation especially at the end times.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#431644 Apr 7, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
BINGO!! This is "EXACTLY" what the Catholic Church teaches, believes and proclaims-----and has done so, for over 2000 years...... The problem is that you "fundies" are too "blind" to see it!!!
your a funny guy you pick an paste one line out of the whole post that you say the church stands for,,,let people see what you so conviently left out...There isn't a single line of Scripture that says God handed power over to a "church" or any "human" to be able to change His Word. So what does God have to say about His own Word? Man must not live according to the Word of the pope, but according to the word of who?... Matthew 4:4 ...'But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.'... There we have Jesus' own Words, confirming that we live by the Word of God alone.

Hebrews 4:12 ...'For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.'

1 Peter 1:25 ...'But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.'

The Word of God lasts forever, and it is by that Word alone that we are to live....JETHRO:you left out the most important sentence in my whole post,not surprising "There isn't a single line of Scripture that says God handed power over to a "church" or any "human".....this alone states your church is no better or worse than any other man made church,it holds no supreme power over nothing,person,place or thing, but it's own false traditions/beliefs.
Clay

United States

#431645 Apr 7, 2013
Rick Warren's son commits suicide.
Matthew Warren battled depression for yrs and the 27 yr old son of the popular Evangelical Pastor ended his life the other day.
I've always admired Rick Warren, and my heartfelt prayers go to his son and family. What struck this story as sad, besides the suicide, was what Matthew told his dad a few months ago when he had suicidal thoughts. He said, "Dad, I Know I'm going to Heaven, why can't I just do it?"
Really?
Matthew, you were lied to when your Dad told you that faith alone is all that is needed for salvation. I pray your in Heaven, but the fact is, you didn't cooperate with the grace God gave you. You are not the author of life, God is. You didn't have the right to end the life He gave You. Your last act of this miracle of life, was murder. Perhaps if you'd heard the correct Gospel, you wouldn't have erroneously thought you're guaranteed salvation after your alter call at your Dads Church.. I admire your Dads zeal for Christ and his attempt at proclaiming if truth to the best of his ability. But Matthew, your Dad Rick is no authority on sacred scriptures. He is not guided to truth by the Holy Spirit when interpreting the Gospel. He may have cost you your life by his unauthoritative opinion on Sola Fide. He led you down the wrong path.

Wake up Evangelicals. You have no business interpreting sacred scriptures.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#431646 Apr 7, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Ac 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.{Easter: Gr. Passover}{quaternions: a file of four soldiers}
(KJV)
Acts 12:4

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him; intending after the passover to bring him forth to the people.

American King James Version
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And when he had apprehended him, he cast him into prison, delivering him to four files of soldiers to be kept, intending, after the pasch, to bring him forth to the people.


New International Version (©2011)
After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then he imprisoned him, placing him under the guard of four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring Peter out for public trial after the Passover.

English Standard Version (©2001)
And when he had seized him, he put him in prison, delivering him over to four squads of soldiers to guard him, intending after the Passover to bring him out to the people.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
When he had seized him, he put him in prison, delivering him to four squads of soldiers to guard him, intending after the Passover to bring him out before the people.


Mark 14:1 Now the Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread were only two days away, and the chief priests and the teachers of the law were scheming to arrest Jesus secretly and kill him.

Acts 12:3 When he saw that this met with approval among the Jews, he proceeded to seize Peter also. This happened during the Festival of Unleavened Bread.

Acts 12:5 So Peter was kept in prison, but the church was earnestly praying to God for him.

Yeah how did the term Easter get in there ?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431647 Apr 7, 2013
hojo wrote:
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I have told you before and I will say it again!! It is a "total waste of my time" to debate, discus or deliberate ANYTHING with "bible only" anti-catholic heretics, LIKE YOU, who "distort, manipulate, and "make up" your own Protestant CHURCH HISTORY and twisting the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the bible. You "fundies" have become (experts) at "personal opinionizing" EVERYTHING as well as EDITORIALIZING the meaning of Sacred Scripture---and have done so since the Protestant Reformation..... My time is better spent at Daily Mass, receiving Jesus Christs TRUE BODY AND TRUE BLOOD in the Eucharist, hearing, following and adhering to the TRUTH of the Gospel, and the other daily readings, the Sacraments and Daily Adoration and prayer before the Blessed Sacrament...... The fact is that there is NOTHING TO DISCUSS and NOT TO DEBATE..... We as Catholics ALREADY KNOW THE TRUTH! You "fundies" continue to "run around in circles" with your other 42,000 "relative truth" editorialist Christians. Again--Go read the Catholic Catechism and the Encyclicals which re-affirms the TRUTH of over 2000 years of TRUE BIBLICAL AND HISTORICAL WRITINGS that the Catholic Church believes and teaches!--You will also discover that "the vast majority of both Catholic and Protestant Apologistic authors and writers confirm, re-affirm, ratifies and validates EVERY DOCTRINE of TRUTH that authenticates that the One True Catholic Church --is, has and will always be the Church that Jesus HIMSELF established and initiated.
you wrote

I have told you before and I will say it again!! It is a "total waste of my time" to debate, discus or deliberate ANYTHING with "bible only" anti-catholic heretics,

Question

THEN WHY ARE YOU DEBATING AND DELIBERATING...

WHEN YOU KNOW WE ARE RIGHT...

We have validation from the SCRIPTURES....you have none...

You can't even prove that the Catholic church exist ...by using SCRIPTURE.

You got in on the top floor...you have no foundational evidence//

the only way that you can go is DOWN..

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