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#431856 Apr 9, 2013
Why Catholic Indulgences Are Making a Comeback
The pardons have fallen by the wayside in the past few decades, but they're being revived in conjunction with a new emphasis on the importance of charity in Christian life. Catholicism, with 67 million followers in the U.S., is big on formulaic repetition of the Hail Mary and "Our Father" variety. But the Vatican is starting to move away from that and toward, according to the church's Manual of Indulgences, a "greater zeal for the exercise of charity."
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...
#431857 Apr 9, 2013
you are alright
when you see medium people they show to you trough tv
but i am not encourage anyone for that not
if that come normal its already seed within you..
please understood spiritual life as well earthly
splitting or restoring
restore our future in heaven as well here
i try explain symbolically on very ordinary way
see symbol within
your god will restore your future
now please explain my mining on your way
what is last will be first
what is hide or cover up will be restore..
heavenly and earthly restoration is that some or what
holy way is hide
but creator created us on his or her immage
desire within us is wish to know that we can created too or search
did we always been correct
but who is correct
my God forgive me if i am wrong..
How you call someone who false swear against someone? liar..
How you call nice people but perfection to set up against someone..its that fraud is that crime is that honesty is that perfection what someone try pinch off someone what is not belong ..
by my lovely confe
#431858 Apr 9, 2013
Did you lift up your soul in vain?
if you could hold kingdom here on earth you will do to in heaven..in both direction destroyers exist..
on perfect diploma way it is explanation
'creation determination as well re-creation'
its been before
yes civilization before exist
there will tell you or wrote many story nothing exist or why you keep symbols this or that ..its not good..
Why they don't liked that you see how it is as it is?
then where is determinant..
see letters as mathematics resolve determinant see alphabetic letters who and where???????
#431859 Apr 9, 2013
crown cro w ''n''
#431860 Apr 9, 2013
Some of the most ignorant statements I have heard in a long, long time. You said, quote, "KayMarie, please, the Catholics WROTE the Holy Scriptures. For 300 years Christians had no Bible as we know it today, until THEY put it together." End of your quote.
Please give the names of the "Catholic" authors of the Bible. Just one would be great. Let me see, would it be Moses? No. How about Paul, was he Catholic? No. How about John? No Jeremiah? No. Then what "Catholic" wrote one word in the Bible.
You said, quote, "There is oral tradition, and there is written tradition. Oral tradition became Sacred Tradition, the traditions of God, who indeed likes incense, and ritual and all the trapping of holiness. He wants us to WORK at our faith, and that means more than just going to Church on Sunday. Written Tradition became the Bible, which THEY, the Catholics, combined and went to GREAT LENGTHS to put together, and during a time when they were still being persecuted, despite tolerance from the Roman state." End quote.
More lie from hell. Oops, I meant the vatican.
You said, quote, "No, they don't worship Mary. They respect and honor her as the Mother of Jesus. No, they don't pray to the saints, they ASK for their prayers. No, they don't believe the dead are dead, but in Heaven with God praying for us to get through this sometimes awful and challenging life. And every ritual performed at mass is what the Jews were COMMANDED to do by God, and nowhere was that changed or altered. No, pagan elements were NOT introduced, but some pagan holidays were Christianize to respect the culture and honor the people, without compromising the the faith in any way. And no one fought against slavery, elevated women, fought against abortion (a SERIOUS problem in Roman times), and maintained marriage between a man and woman (against the pagans who thought otherwise for centuries) more so than the Catholic Church." End quote.
You are too ignorant for words. Go back to your Roman Catholic cult you pitiful low life.
#431861 Apr 9, 2013
did you see you y
did you see whay you try act smart
i told you
do double z cross over you call me nazi..o did you
look on your hand letter 'N' God left seal as Creation
i am not care what you think
you liked be biger then god
you are pesessor
which others can destroy you too
did you find who is not nice with words
meaning of symbolical
fuck off=is one finger up other down=as you see observe someone as you see symbol of c astro astrology vaga
Vaga is symbol kg kilogram=margolic
its story how Jesus react on not valid words
but restore in something
Symbol as well place exist about what?
i told you my mind is not yours..no
you can be perfect as perfect destruction ones implemented ..it is finish..
i tray tell you where is your error in your perfection..perfect destruction..
no you not going do that dear god
#431862 Apr 9, 2013
dear God no
i mean perfection can't be as ordinary
as well you can play with that
ordinary person don't have responsibility..
but can have inner as perfection..
What god say about that in parable?
'weed seed and good seed'
see fuck off
when they press its going down as well up
#431864 Apr 9, 2013
two pen together have two 25 one from one side other from other side
what we can do that in geometric way but as well as numbers its stay with 3 numbers
o yes yes yes
its 1/3 not 1/4
you have 3x 3 number within each is 3 as within one symbol first 3 numbers within is as destruction
if you love me
love can be respect too
understanding can be love too
love can be as heart
if you drove as map on heart as destruction
its within 3 numbers as well within two geometric symbol as well all within one
love can be suffering too
but if you suffer for someone or any reason because of that its winning love
you must be complete all 3x 3 x3 within one is complete still not inaf
because no limit what so ever
#431865 Apr 9, 2013
meter odmjeranje observe
everybody wish some
no deference on this world
#431866 Apr 9, 2013
god send manna 2 fish and 5 loofa bread
“Fear is the Mind-Killer”
Since: Jun 08
#431877 Apr 9, 2013
Actually, I'm Baptist. And all I can do is pray that you grow in your faith and study history more. Everything I stated is ALSO taught by Baptist, except the priesthood and papal authority. No Protestant denomination denies the validity of the Early Church in its uniformity in doctrine. Gnostics, Arians, Cathars, and all other heretics are our heretics to us as well because of the same doctrines we share. No, the word Catholic was not used in Paul's time, of course, there was no "universal church" yet. But once many churches existed, that was the obvious thing to call all the Christian Churches.
And I'm sure you understood that I meant the Catholics wrote the New Testament, not the Old. Inspired by and breathed by God, but written by men. not dictated, as the Muslims claim with the Koran.
I'm sorry most of the myths you probably believed in are directly denied, but the truth is the truth.
#431878 Apr 10, 2013
They "cannot stop" Catholic bashing because their "entire bible only man-made religion" is predicated and based upon attacking, condemning and passing their Protestant(personal opinionated) judgment" against Jesus Christ HIMSELF and His One True Catholic Church..... Sola Scriptura "cannot exist" (on its own) without Protestant "verbal abuse" against the faith of other Christians--especially Catholics.... As a former bible only Protestant, it was the "major focus and emphasis" of our "so-called" Christian faith......Every "bible only fundamentalist" on this forum (Confrinting, Orville, 4GVN, justachristian, jethro8, LTM, PAD, Marge, and those that I missed--have PROVEN this to be true, over and over and over again with "every post" including the Agnostics and Atheists who make comments.
#431879 Apr 10, 2013
I appreciate your input. Dialogue is becoming more and more fruitful between Protestants and Catholics.
What do the Baptist want? The SBC is darn near a mini Catholic Church. Do they seek some kind of merger or dual catholic/Baptist faith? That's a tricky scenario. The CC would say to anyone,(including the Orthodox) you're either in communion with the Bishop of Rome or not. That's a huge problem for many, but it can't be any different, because we're talking about truth- which can't be compromised. I don't know what the future holds. But these two facts are interesting: Many Catholics are leaving the Church due to cultural influence and secularism among other reasons. But many Protestants are replacing them by becoming Catholic. The new converts have a deep love for Christ; a zeal for the scriptures and bring a new kind of vibe into the Church.
The result in about 20 yrs, is a Holier Catholic Church, as the half hearted Catholics are replaced by serious Christians from the Evangelical camp.
Those who remain Protestant, will be the kind neither side needs. Stubborn and ignorant. I'm wondering if Christ is setting up His return, gathering the seeds for the final spiritual battle. He's giving current Catholics an ultimatum. I see it in how my own family is being split. Certain ones are drawn to the secular materialistic world. Others are becoming stronger Catholics and complete opposite of their siblings. This is alarming as Christ said He didn't come to unite families but divide them.
Anyway, its nice to hear from a potential convert. Was it the internet debate forums, like this one, that drew you towards Catholicism?
#431881 Apr 10, 2013
Imagine a 'church' with a hundred OldJG's in it. Then imagine one across the street with a hundred Pope Francis' in it. Scary.
I think I know which one I'm going to.
I think your hate is so deep rooted now it starts to feel 'right' to ya. That's how the devil works. That's how he infiltrates us.
Since: Nov 08
#431882 Apr 10, 2013
Boston, MA......i see your visiting Boston again,you come to see the red sox play?
#431883 Apr 10, 2013
Nah, still in MN. We're getting a foot of snow tonight. The twins play this weekend and its going to be like December baseball.
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"
#431884 Apr 10, 2013
The Catholic Church came before one line of the NT was written down. You can read some of the historical account in the Book of Acts. But not all of the details of the CC will be spelled out in Scripture.
But all of the teachings are somehow seen in the 73 Books that make up the Bible.
Either produce them ...GIVE EVIDENCE or STOP WASTING MY TIME...
I CONTEND THAT ALL YOU ARE DOING IS BLOWING SMOKE...THAT YOU REALLY
HAVE NO PROOF...AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE
THAT DECIDES THE ETERNAL DESTINY OF MY SOUL...
( IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMEONES ALLEGED HEARSAY ...THAT PROVES NOTHING...)
I have given you books chapters and verses ....to witness, and
validate what I have written.
THE ONLY WITNESSES ACCEPTABLE from you IS BOOKS CHAPTERS AND VERSES...
IF YOU CAN'T PRODUCE THEM, I AINT BUYING IT.
Joh_8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Joh_8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
I am free in the truth.. A joint heir with Christ...a fellow
citizen of the saints of the household of God.
I refuse to be involves in your divided loyalties.
Eph_2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
I refuse to bring my self under the servitude to/OF an earthly dynasty...in ROME ITALY
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"
#431885 Apr 10, 2013
There are some of us here in this forum, that will be a part of
those that are mentioned in Revelation...
Rev_7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
If you get there you will come....> by the old cross road and the
way called straight...there is just on way through the pearly
gates <.... only through the blood of Jesus
AND NO ONE HAS A FRANCHISE NOR A MONOPOLY ON GOD'S LOVE AND GRACE..
not even a selfish ROMAN CATHOLIC, such as you.
#431886 Apr 10, 2013
OK, you are just an ignorant Baptist then. The Old Testament was written by Jews and the New Testament was written by Jews with the exception of Luke and Acts which were written by Dr. Luke, a gentile. You need to check your history. The ROMAN CATHOLIC cult or any of it's members did not write one word of the Bible. Not one.
Finally, the word "catholic", small "c" was and is the word for the UNIVERSAL church not the ROMAN CATHOLIC cult. The ROMAN CATHOLIC cult began with Constantine. Ever heard of him?
Marks of the New Testament church are revealed in
1. Its Head and Founder--CHRIST. He is the law-giver; the Church is only the executive.(Matthew 16:18; Colossians 1:18)
2. Its only rule of faith and practice--THE BIBLE.
(II Timothy 3:15-17)
3. Its name--"CHURCH," "CHURCHES."
(Matthew 16:18; Revelation 22:16)
4. Its polity--CONGREGATIONAL--all members equal.
(Matthew 20:24-28; Matthew 23:5-12)
5. Its members--only saved people.(Ephesians 2:21; I Peter 2:5)
6. Its ordinances--BELIEVERS' BAPTISM, FOLLOWED BY THE LORD'S SUPPER.(Matthew 28:19-20)
7. Its work--getting folks saved, baptizing them (with a baptism that meets all the requirements of God's Word), teaching them ("to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you").(Matthew 28:16-20)
8. Its financial plan--"Even so (TITHES and OFFERINGS) hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel," (I Corinthians 9:14)
9. Its weapons of warfare--spiritual, not carnal.
(II Corinthians 10:4; Ephesians 6:10-20)
10. Its independence--separation of Church and State.
In any town there are many different churches all claiming to be the true church. Take the marks, or teachings, of the different churches and find the ones which have these marks, or doctrines. The ones which have these marks, or doctrines, taught in God's Word, are the true churches.
True Bible-Believing churches existed before the ROMAN CATHOLIC cult. The ROMAN CATHOLIC cult as we know it can trace its beginnings back to the Emperor Constantine in the forth century, AD. The true Church of God started at Pentecost in the first century, and there have been true Bible-believing churches ever since. Jesus said to the Apostles, "lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world" (Matthew 28:20). The birth of the New Testament church began at Pentecost.
If you have any questions check history.
Since: Nov 08
#431887 Apr 10, 2013
WRONG! it is the biggest christian/pagan church, Jesus did not put a name to his church, Ignatius did, Jesus was Jewish,there was a group of Jewish/Christians centuries ago but they came after Jesus' death,so he was a Jew, Rome conquered Israel,murdered,raped and pillaged the country,the pagan/christian leaders were right there stealing religious writings and artifacts (which should be given back to them)including the christian church of Antioch, so why would a Jew reward them by building "HIS" church in a pagan country that conquered his homeland ETC.? is it just me or does anyone else see something wrong with that picture? Jesus is the only head of His church (Eph. 1:22-23),the church calls the pope the Vicar of Christ on earth (no references in the Bible),that would mean two leaders of the true church,true? yes it would be true, but since there can only be one and jesus is the one according to the legend, the pope is a meaningless position in the religious world,he is the head of the man made pagan/christian church,which cares more for power and money than it does for it's followers,we know what proves that,so no need to mention it,tired of doing that."MY CHURCH" clearly spoken by Jesus and clearly written in the bible,there is no other name attached to the church neither spoken or written,so no man made church can not with 100% accuracy claim to be the true church.
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