Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 20 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431339 Apr 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Oxbow"]The Bible says that "one thousand years is as a day in God's sight". Adam and Eve came along in the sixth day, then God rested for a day.(Seven thousand years total.) Since Adam we've known 6,000 yars of history.
13,000 years is reasonable to me. When someone starts talking about millions and billions of years, I wonder where they got a calendar or measuring stick to determine that.
KayMarie
The ignorance that Christianity instills into its followers.

"I wonder where they got a calendar or measuring stick to determine that."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

"This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples. Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich minerals showed that some were in excess of a billion years old.[4]

The oldest such minerals analyzed to date – small crystals of zircon from the Jack Hills of Western Australia – are at least 4.404 billion years old.[5][6][7] Comparing the mass and luminosity of the Sun to the magnitudes of other stars, it appears that the solar system cannot be much older than those rocks. Ca-Al-rich inclusions (inclusions rich in calcium and aluminium)– the oldest known solid constituents within meteorites that are formed within the solar system – are 4.567 billion years old,[8][9] giving an age for the solar system and an upper limit for the age of Earth."

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431340 Apr 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Religion - A Delusion"
Where else can we find evidence of Herod's killing of the babies throughout the land? Nowhere. Not one shred of evidence, beyond a fable. It's delusional.
And: There are no records anywhere outside the contrived Bible of things such as Herod having children killed. Something such as that surely would have been recorded by the Jews and everyone else in the region -- but the only account we have is a Biblical fable.
**********
They didn't have television, radio, telephones, etc. so that other people's might reveal their murderous behavior. Surely you don't think that Herod would send THAT news out to the world?
KM
But yet it just so happened to make it only into the Bible?

Your logic is flawed.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431341 Apr 5, 2013
Clay wrote:

- First of all, I don't think you're secure in your atheism. A content atheist wouldn't feel the need to get on a a forum and trash people who believe in God, unless they felt uneasy about their own belief (or lack of belief)

New Age writes:
Actually, one could also preceive the same instance as, a person whom is "very zealous" in his/her belief and truly believes what they believe, so they have come to this forum and decided to voice their beliefs openly.

Oh wait, I'm talking about so-called "Christians" too.

Imagine that.

Unfortunately for the so-called "Christians", most voice a false doctrine, because they have chosen not to believe in Jesus, whereas an Atheist, has researched the religion and understands that a literary figure called Jesus could have lived on Earth, but was only a spiritual man.

We can go round and round with various paths this could be related to, but I wanted you to view one additional one above your own, just to show you that you haven't taken the time to seek out all possibilities.

But hey, you are a so-called "Christian" who thinks they are better than others.

I disagree.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#431342 Apr 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
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When Luther and Calvin invented the idea of 'Scripture alone', they had no idea the Earth would be proven to be millions of yrs old..
Just another example of those two idiots having no business being an authority on scripture.
I suppose during the 16th century, the Earth being 6,000 yrs was practical to them.. They couldn't comprehend that 'one day' being a thousand yrs to God was a figure of speech and not literally! God is outside of space and and exhort.
time. Days minutes and hrs do not exist where He is.
~~~

THE WORD OF GOD MEANS NOTHING TO AN INFIDEL SUCH AS YOU

YOU IGNORE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND TRUST YOU OWN..

THE BIBLE SAYS

1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431343 Apr 5, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
The Bible does not teach the earth to be 6000 years old....
Ge 1:1 ¶ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
When (what date) was the beginning??
BTW...your 6000 years start with the Creation of Adam....that is not "the beginning"....when God Created the heaven and earth.....
And....there is no way of knowing how many billions of years this was: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. "
...The core of Christianity—the worship of a miracle working, walking, talking godman who brings salvation—was also the core of other ancient religions that began at least a thousand years before the Jesus story. Did you not know this?

.....Heaven, hell, prophecy, demon possession, sacrifice, initiation by baptism, communion with God through a holy meal, the Holy Spirit, monotheism, immortality of the soul, and many other "Christian" ideas all belonged to earlier, older Pagan faiths. They were simply part of ancient Mediterranean culture. Along with miracle working sons of God, born of a mortal woman, they were common elements of pre-Christian Pagan religion. Mithras had 'em. So did Dionysus, Attis, Osiris, and Orpheus. And more. Christianity just put their own spin on old traditions and customs.(lol)

People want a God to exist, only to satisfy their own selfish desires and wants. If a man named Jesus never promised eternal salvation no one would give a damn about a man named Jesus or anything written about him from 2,000 years ago. Right?

Its all wishful thinking. Now go and do something constructive with your life instead of dreaming about an imaginary place after you die.

....Anticipation is always more exciting, then the actual thing you experience. Keep dreaming!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#431344 Apr 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>Really? We preach the gospel; Jesus died for us that we might be forgiven, and receive eternal life.
You only preach a portion of his gospel.

Please stop misleading others with a proven fallacy.

Self.
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>You may choose Him, or reject Him.
Personal choice - no religion required.

Self.
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>You 'color' the picture with rituals and laws, giving to men the honor due to God.
Baptism - a ritual done by most so-called "Christians".
"alter call" - a ritual used in Pmainly Protestant churches to show that an individual can "come clean" in fron of his/her fellow church-goers

Just more lies you are trying to promote.
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>You tell us that you do not worship idols, but we see you bow down and pray to statues. If you really don't do it, just don't do it.
But you sure worship that Bible immensely.....hmmmmm.....

Bible worship can be construed as idoltry.
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>Worship is a contraction of 'worth-ship', and those things definitely are of value to you.
KayMarie
So. What is your point?

"I believe in Jesus"
- does not mean to only believe in a portion of Jesus
- signifies in context, that one believes in all of Jesus
- example: "I believe in my wife" - not just a portion of her, but all of her.
Clay

United States

#431345 Apr 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Clay, hope you and your family had a blessed Easter. The Lord knows our hearts, He knows who we worship, and those we honor having lived their lives as He desires. He also know the hearts of false accusers...
Well hey there Anthony. I had a great Easter and hope you did too.
As you can see, nothing has changed around here. I have no idea why I still hang around. I have no real goal. No one is going to change their mind. I guess i enjoy any discussion about religion and this forum is on my smart phone home page. Just one click and I'm talking to Confrint about worshiping statues! lol.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431346 Apr 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Clay, hope you and your family had a blessed Easter. The Lord knows our hearts, He knows who we worship, and those we honor having lived their lives as He desires. He also know the hearts of false accusers...
I knew you would be back!! I KNEW IT!!

....... Too boring over on the CATHOLIC ANSWERS forum where everyone sits around hold hands with each other singing KOOMM-BY-AH!

Pied Piper Father Dye said he was leaving this forum a few months ago, so you and ReginaM. got on board and thought you would follow along. The only problem was Father Dye never left this forum.(lol)

I know you have been lurking ever since you left.....

"You don't know what you have, till its gone"

hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#431347 Apr 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
If it were a Holy institution ....it would prove God's love and
You are getting closer and closer to the TRUTH confrinting, when you speak of Jesus' One True Catholic Church when you said, "If it were a Holy institution..... because the fact IS that ----"IT IS A HOLY INSTITUTION" ------- that is built upon the foundation of the TRUTH--of Jesus Christ, who HE HIMSELF is love, charity, virtue and abundant in God's Grace. We, as Christians, are all ecumentical brothers and sisters in Christ, however, you "fundies" have "rebelliously" and "defiantly" chosen to reject the FULLNESS of the Faith and the TRUTH that Jesus gave us over 2000 years ago. When you "reject" Jesus Christs One True Church--you are (in fact) "rejecting Jesus Christ HIMSELF!!!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431348 Apr 5, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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<quoted text>
What is it about this statement that you are not understanding?? "Christians do not observe non Christian rituals."
Christians WELCOME everyone to their rituals, festivals and church services and festivities, but REMEMBER!! WE WILL NEVER GO TO YOUR festivals/services, festivities if you aren't one of us.

Very sad. See what I mean when I say religion divides.

I thought God created all mankind equal. Evidentally most don't practice that.

Wouldn't this be a great world if everyone could hold hands forming a circle around the earth several times. ORGANIZED religion will never allow that to happen.

sadly BUSTED!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#431349 Apr 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
I knew you would be back!! I KNEW IT!!
....... Too boring over on the CATHOLIC ANSWERS forum where everyone sits around hold hands with each other singing KOOMM-BY-AH!
Pied Piper Father Dye said he was leaving this forum a few months ago, so you and ReginaM. got on board and thought you would follow along. The only problem was Father Dye never left this forum.(lol)
I know you have been lurking ever since you left.....
"You don't know what you have, till its gone"
Awww..you missed me didn't you Mike? I won't stay long, just dropping by to say hello to my friends as I promised I would. Anything new with you? Still arguing for Wymyn priests, gay marriage and a watered down Catholic Church?
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431350 Apr 5, 2013
....By what criteria can we decide what ancient godman stories were new and original, and what ancient godman stories were myths built up from the religious ideas of their day?

Christian teachings are nothing more than copy-cat customs that formed part of the mediteranean culture long before Jesus was a twinkle in the eye of St Paul.

Without family indoctrination of catholicism/protestantism both would have never got off the ground.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#431351 Apr 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Well hey there Anthony. I had a great Easter and hope you did too.
As you can see, nothing has changed around here. I have no idea why I still hang around. I have no real goal. No one is going to change their mind. I guess i enjoy any discussion about religion and this forum is on my smart phone home page. Just one click and I'm talking to Confrint about worshiping statues! lol.
I can see nothing has changed. I think we should introduce shuffle board to some of the fundamentalist hangers-on...
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431352 Apr 5, 2013
......When Vespatian's spittle healed a blind man, we understand that as a myth.

......A thousand years later, when the story of Jesus doing the same thing, people understand that as the truth.

__________

...When Apollonius of Tyana raised a girl from death, we understand that as a myth.

....Centuries later when Jesus raised Lazereous from the dead, christians claim that was true.

Will the real healers please stand up?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#431353 Apr 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
THE WORD OF GOD MEANS NOTHING TO AN INFIDEL SUCH AS YOU
YOU IGNORE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND TRUST YOU OWN..
You, Confrinting can "continue to (quote) and worship your bible verses, as always!!!..... I/We as Catholics will "continue as always" to worship Jesus Christ, accepting HIM as Lord and Savior --(His life-death-and resurrection,(each day) at Daily Mass, in the Eucharist, adhering, and believing the TRUE GOSPEL and the TRUE INTERPRETAION in the Bible, with Confession, Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament and 24 hour Prayer in the Chapel...... Quoting a "cafeteria list" of bible verses--(doesn't make you a Christian)--Confrinting!! Nor does condemning and passing your personal opinionate "judgment" against the faith of other Christians, make you a follower on Jesus. You, my friend, have a "lot to learn" before God will give you "any authority" to speak for HIM!!
Religion - A Delusion

Titusville, FL

#431354 Apr 5, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Religion - A Delusion"
Where else can we find evidence of Herod's killing of the babies throughout the land? Nowhere. Not one shred of evidence, beyond a fable. It's delusional.
And: There are no records anywhere outside the contrived Bible of things such as Herod having children killed. Something such as that surely would have been recorded by the Jews and everyone else in the region -- but the only account we have is a Biblical fable.
**********
They didn't have television, radio, telephones, etc. so that other people's might reveal their murderous behavior. Surely you don't think that Herod would send THAT news out to the world?
KM
A delusional one in denial writes -- "Surely you don't think that Herod would send THAT news out to the world?"

Something like that could not have been kept secret.

No doubt that writers throughout the region -- Romans, Jews, Greeks, Persians -- would have reported on such a major event.

Romans kept meticulous records. Roman governors would have reported something like this back to Rome. But not a single word anywhere.

There is zero archeological evidence as well. Nothing.

Surely if so many children were killed, there would be one grave discovered.

Yet we have absolutely no other evidence of such an event. That's why the delusional ones are left to make up excuses, no matter how implausible.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431355 Apr 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Awww..you missed me didn't you Mike? I won't stay long, just dropping by to say hello to my friends as I promised I would. Anything new with you? Still arguing for Wymyn priests, gay marriage and a watered down Catholic Church?
A recent CNN poll stated that 58% of ROMAN CATHOLICS today (up from 25% 4 years ago) are now in favor of same sex marriage. 38% disagree, and 4% feared to answer. What will it be in 3 years? 5 years? 25 years?

Personally I don't have an opinion on same sex marriage, but its clearly apparent roman catholics in greater numbers are caving in.

You know me Anthony, I just report the news that catholics should know about. The news they don't want to know.

Father Rob said he was leaving this forum. You and Regina M. said OK! You and REGINA M. blinked, Father Rob stayed behind, and kept posting as he had always done. Now you two will come back and Father Rob will leave.(lol)

I love it!(lol)



Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#431356 Apr 5, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You are getting closer and closer to the TRUTH confrinting, when you speak of Jesus' One True Catholic Church when you said, "If it were a Holy institution..... because the fact IS that ----"IT IS A HOLY INSTITUTION" ------- that is built upon the foundation of the TRUTH--of Jesus Christ, who HE HIMSELF is love, charity, virtue and abundant in God's Grace. We, as Christians, are all ecumentical brothers and sisters in Christ, however, you "fundies" have "rebelliously" and "defiantly" chosen to reject the FULLNESS of the Faith and the TRUTH that Jesus gave us over 2000 years ago. When you "reject" Jesus Christs One True Church--you are (in fact) "rejecting Jesus Christ HIMSELF!!!
Hi Hojo, hope you had a blessed Easter as well. Our pastor's sermon this morning was on today's first reading (Acts 4:1-12). We can't be afraid to proclaim the truth. Glad to see they haven't beaten you down.
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#431357 Apr 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I can see nothing has changed. I think we should introduce shuffle board to some of the fundamentalist hangers-on...
Or purchase each "fundie" admission tickets to Disneyland so that they can enjoy a "full day" of rides on the "merry-go-round" and the "Tea Cups" which fits "right in" to their NEVER ENDING-bible only spinning "round and round" in circles of more confusion, more chaos, and more Protesant (editorialized) denominations!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#431358 Apr 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Awww..you missed me didn't you Mike? I won't stay long, just dropping by to say hello to my friends as I promised I would. Anything new with you? Still arguing for Wymyn priests, gay marriage and a watered down Catholic Church?
ANTHONY says.......Still arguing for Wymyn priests, gay marriage and a watered down Catholic Church?

MICHAEL says........I don't argue these points, I just bring the news that ROMAN CATHOLICS themselves are talking about.

HOJO and CLAY tuffed it out. Lets see how long you will stay this time.

Seriously, its good you are back, we need more posters on here. Any new ideas?

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