Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#430486 Mar 30, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Marge, I am probably the only Christian here on this forum that is free. So you accept the pagan practice of rolling easter eggs and bunny rabbits etc, all which are nothing but pagan fertility rites that have crept into the house of God and which gullible Christians have accepted hook,line and sinker as Christian things but in fact are an insult to the Lord of Hosts.
Have you never wondered where the practice of easter eggs asnd bunny rabbits came from and what in the Sam Hill they have to do with the death,burial and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Name one scripture where God told Christians it's okay to bring these pagan practices into His house.
Scripture tells us that judgement shall start at the house and that means with the so called church. Why? Because the so called church should know better than to turn the house of Gid into a Bethevan ( look it up ). The church is no longer known as BETHEL but todays church has become so corrupt that now it is known as BETHEVAN.
And whomever told you that you can just willy nilly choose whatever day you like to observe,whether that day is chocked full of pagan rites and practices (LIKE EASTER) has lied to you my sister. Even the so called Sunrise services are pagan. Have you not read Ezekile where the priests of the Temple were caught in that practice and God was very insulted with those so priests. There is much you have to learn my sister.
The first mention of Beth Aven, which means “house of wickedness,” in the Old Testament is in Joshua 7:2.
Clay

United States

#430487 Mar 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
If you can't live by the word .... then you are not qualified to teach it.
That goes for any one else here in this forum....that is attempting to teach God's word..from an unclean vessle
"If you can't live by the word than you're not qualified to teach it"

Then in your next post you bore false witness against Catholics.
Its time for you to hand over your Bible, you're not qualified to teach it.
The only way you can debunk Catholicism is to use deception. That's a fact.
This is another of the many reasons I know the Church is the one started by Jesus Christ.. you guys need to lie to bring it down.
Clay

United States

#430488 Mar 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said before:--You can continue to "list" and "worship" your bible verses.......For it is like Jesus said in Matthew 7:16-20 "you will know my disciples by the "fruit they produce! Beware of false teachers for you will know them by the way they act, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit"!! My family and I will continue to worship and proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior His, life, death and resurrection (each and every day) at Daily Mass and the Eucharist, in and through Our Lords One True Catholic Church--and pray for you and KayMarie
A blessed Easter to you and your family!
I always thought it amusing that people who showed up 1900 yrs after Jesus, grabbed a Bible; read it; changed Apostolic teachings like the Eucharist and said "Beware of false teachers" as if the verse is directed at the Church that gave it to us!!
truth

Perth, Australia

#430489 Mar 30, 2013
your Creator know how you look..yes ..his first ''?'' is why you hide yourself when i know you.
His commandment is be productive in his holy garden..i told you how many times they change Eden as well bible too.
Be bless if you poor or dirty
be bless if they accuse you abuse as well assault you
be bless if they strip you
be bless if they judge you

i told you
he is full of Mercy as well Grace

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430490 Mar 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
___
You wrote
you are being filled with the ideals of one certain group that only uses books that promotes their agenda,and that is to draw as many people to the church for the sole purpose of making money.
---
You are right in you assessment of books written by certain groups...
While some my not attempt to edit the word of God, as the Roman
Catholics do, yet when you go to their concordances, it is laced with
their own interpretations and applications of the scriptures.
As an example. the Schofield Bible is Baptist......and the references in the concordance is Baptist .
The Thompson Chain reference Bible is a Bible with no denominational
applications Neither is the 26, translation Bible that I use.
not to familiar with The Thompson Chain reference Bible,will have to check it out,could be interesting reading to see they difference between others i have read.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#430491 Mar 30, 2013
The scene at St. Mary’s Catholic Church on Springdale Road in Cherry Hill on Christmas morning was both a familiar sight, and a rare occurrence. The church was packed to capacity, which is commonplace on Christmas day, but is a far cry from how general Sunday attendance has been over the last several years. As with churches not just in southern New Jersey, but all across the country, the number of faithful gathering every Sunday for worship has steadily been dwindling. While some may attribute this trend to an overall erosion in the moral and spiritual fiber in people as a whole in recent times, which can be debated endlessly, there seems to be a more specific reason that some many Catholics have gone from being Sunday regulars to C and E practitioners.
The scene at St. Mary’s Catholic Church on Springdale Road in Cherry Hill on Christmas morning was both a familiar sight, and a rare occurrence. The church was packed to capacity, which is commonplace on Christmas day, but is a far cry from how general Sunday attendance has been over the last several years. As with churches not just in southern New Jersey, but all across the country, the number of faithful gathering every Sunday for worship has steadily been dwindling. While some may attribute this trend to an overall erosion in the moral and spiritual fiber in people as a whole in recent times, which can be debated endlessly, there seems to be a more specific reason that some many Catholics have gone from being Sunday regulars to C and E practitioners.

Controversy has hit the Catholic Church often and severely in recent years. It was not so much the allegations of molestation and corruption that disturbed so many of the faithful, it was the attempt to downplay and cover-up these instances that was the root of the decline in support from a large portion of Catholics. These events caused a steady drop in attendance and contributions, which in turn has lead many churches in our area to offer services less often, and even other churches to downsize and merge their congregations. It was apparent that many people did not wish to continue their allegiance with a church that did not seem to live by the values it preached.here is no way to look past what has happened in recent years. This should not be, however, reason enough to abandon one’s beliefs altogether over unhappiness or even disgust with the actions of some parts of a whole. Priests, Bishops, Cardinals, et cetera, while they may hold titles of influence in the church, are all still men at the end of the day, just like everyone else. And from an individual standpoint, the actions of others should never push a person away from what they truly believe. It is in times of great difficulty that one should adhere to their faith even tighter, not walk away from it. While you may be unhappy with the actions of some men, do not let them steal away your beliefs.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#430492 Mar 30, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
It appears that no one on this forum can understand Scripture...or, they are well able to understand, but to admit that they do, would reveal their erroneous beliefs...
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Php 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better.
Would someone care to share with us the message that both of these verses teach???
He stated he would RATHER be.

Also other passages in scripture tell us the appointed time.

Philippians 3

11 If by any means ....[I might attain unto the resurrection of the

dead.]...
12 [Not as though I had already attained], either were already

perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which

also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one

thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching

forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in

Christ Jesus.
15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in

any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the

same rule, let us mind the same thing.
17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so

as ye have us for an ensample.
18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you

even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory

is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
[20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for

the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who .......[shall]......... change our vile body, that it may be

fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working

whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.]

1 Thessalonians 4

Comfort from Knowledge of Christ's Return

13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them

who are asleep, that you sorrow not, even as others who have no hope.

14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also

who sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we who are

alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede them

who are asleep.

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with

the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in

Christ shall rise first:

17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with

them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever

be with the Lord.

18Therefore comfort one another with these words.

1 Corinthians 15:52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the

last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised

imperishable, and we will be changed.

1 Thessalonians 3:13 May he strengthen your hearts so that you will be

blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord

Jesus comes with all his holy ones.
Marylou

Douglasville, GA

#430493 Mar 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said before:--You can continue to "list" and "worship" your bible verses.......For it is like Jesus said in Matthew 7:16-20 "you will know my disciples by the "fruit they produce! Beware of false teachers for you will know them by the way they act, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit"!! My family and I will continue to worship and proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior His, life, death and resurrection (each and every day) at Daily Mass and the Eucharist, in and through Our Lords One True Catholic Church--and pray for you and KayMarie
A blessed Easter to you and your family!
. AMEN HOJO!!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#430494 Mar 30, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
Well I'll leave you good people with this closing thought. You have brought pagan practices into the House of the Lord to the point thaT IT SEEMS THAT YOU ARE NOT SERVING THE LORD IN TRUTH.
The things that you do in Gods house you think you honor Him but in reality you insult the Lord and when one tries to show you the error of your ways you stand ready to proverbially stone that person. But Joshua said it best here and this is my advice to you as well...
http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/joshua/24...
AMEN!!!
Joshua 24:15
15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve ; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell : but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

The end times willl as in the days of Noah.
Marylou

Douglasville, GA

#430495 Mar 30, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
"If you can't live by the word than you're not qualified to teach it"
Then in your next post you bore false witness against Catholics.
Its time for you to hand over your Bible, you're not qualified to teach it.
The only way you can debunk Catholicism is to use deception. That's a fact.
This is another of the many reasons I know the Church is the one started by Jesus Christ.. you guys need to lie to bring it down.
. So true Clay. I feel so sorry for these poor people that spend all their time on the Internet attacking others faith instead of living their own faith.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#430496 Mar 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Until you get deliverance from you homosexual demons, I for one am not interested in any thing you have to post..
If you can't live by the word .... then you are not qualified to teach it.
That goes for any one else here in this forum....that is attempting to teach God's word..from an unclean vessle
I am careful where I feed...and watch what I ingest int my spirit..
I loth to feed from a dirty dish...spiritually or physically.
or drink from a contaminated spring...
This is one of the reasons (among many) that I reject Catholicism
and the words of contaminated corruptible men...
JESUS IS THE ONLY INCORRUPTIBLE MAN IN EXISTENCE...THE HEAVENLY FATHER SAID...HEAR YE HIM...
The Hebrew definition of SALVATION...
is ...welfare, health, deliverance prosperity and victory...
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IT ALL COMES BY THE BLOOD OF
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yesh-oo'-aw ...JESUS....NO ONE ELSE QUALIFIES....
e has lready confessed his sins unto the Lord and stated he no longer practiced that life style.

What more do you want from him ?

1 Corinthians 6:11

King James Version (KJV)

8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#430497 Mar 30, 2013
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel sadness for you. If you protest the Church that Jesus started, you are a protestant.
Weird, I went to Catholic School and had Bible homework every night.
Maybe you just didn’t listen, was told to read the Bible and you just didn‘t..
NO doubt if you looked hard enough the Catholic Schools in some areas offered a biblical study of some sort.There is the matter of tradition,once again,for instance,out EAST,we did not discuss the Bible,my parents had a large Bible with many pictures I use to look out,and sometimes read the gospel the pictures were found in.

The sisters never talked about the Bible,I only heard about the catechism,and observed the many practices and traditional trappings. I think that your response may be of course in regards to your personal experience a Bible interjected into the studies,but it was not the N O R M.I am 64 and can tell you that as a child and growing up,the Catholics I knew and grew up with never discussed the Bible.

I remember my cousins discussing catechism,and Catholic School settings with Mary May crownings,observance of saints,the Immaculate Conception and whatever.Most of my relatives had more statues in their homes than any sort of a study session. Often there was rosary reciting and prayers, in front of a statue of Mary,with candles.We all use to boast about wearing scapulars.

When I moved away from that environment I was shocked by the people who read the Bible and tried to live it as well.What an eye opener that was!
socci

Cameron, MO

#430498 Mar 30, 2013
Clay wrote:
Its time for you to hand over your Bible, you're not qualified to teach it.
The only way you can debunk Catholicism is to use deception. That's a fact.

The Roman Church does not have to be debunked since it was never proven to begin with. It is just a threat to the world, like Islam.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#430499 Mar 30, 2013
Adam wrote:
O catholics watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =cdj33GuY-h8XX
O, Adam,it is quite obvious that Dr. Zakir is a revolutionary Muslim who believes strongly that he has the final word on the subject of Islam,he does!But guess what? He does not have a c l u e as to what Jesus Christ is or was,or will be,because he has made the NUMBER 1 choice: to reject the Deity of Jesus the Christ or Messiah.When one makes a choice to reject who and what Jesus is,they enter into a spiritual realm.

For you Muslims and Dr.Zakir respectfully,your spiritual realm is N O T that of YHWH,The true and Living Father who YES begot a Son,and His Name is Jesus,also called Emmanuel(God with us).Now you are in a spiritual realm,and I will not deny that,it exists for you,and for all those who follow after the Prophet Mohammed.You see Adam,everything that is not of this world is spiritually connected.

The Prophet Muhammad(Mohammad) entered a spiritual realm beyond himself when he aligned his thoughts and aspirations with a n Entity not of HUMAN origin.

Islam may have had some very positive contributions to the ARAB and Persian world,and I will not waste any time tearing down your faith.NEVERTHELESS,Your Qu'ran distorts the Biblical accounts of Abraham his sons (Isaac and Ishmael),Joseph son of Isaac, Miriam(mother of Jesus,Isa),The death or crucifixion of Jesus(Isa),and what Jesus said in the Gospels verses what the Qu'ran claims He said.

Also since the Bible is much older and much more accurate than your Qu'ran,we will with all diligence and respect follow it rather than your book.If there are converts to your religion,the tide to the opposite is much more,and not without vicious persecution.We do not persecute those who convert to your religion,but as raf as Muslims converting to the TR
UE ISA who is in fact God the Son, persecution is well known,well documented and many have died as Martyrs.

If you think any Christians are going to hell for not accepting the man born of sinful parents Mohammad,that is to your own misinformation,I hope that one day you will find out that Jesus is truly God's only begotten Son,who died for your sins,and gave Himself so that you can have eternal life.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#430500 Mar 30, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for your kind words. God Bless you!
Your welcome. Our weather is finally taking a turn to warmer,and less chilly.We have seen a lot of snow,and many stormy days.

Looking forward to tomorrow,to be with other believers and to ponder on those things which are so important to us who are looking forward to eternal life.Nevertheless,I am trying to make life here as peacful for me and my family as possible.Enjoy your family,as often that is all we have in this life.

Do the Orthodox celebrate Easter the same time as the RCs? I forgot,getting old and rusty Seraphima.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#430501 Mar 30, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>not to familiar with The Thompson Chain reference Bible,will have to check it out,could be interesting reading to see they difference between others i have read.
Many Bibles and the translations are good and useful.We know that the scholars involved in writing them often used their skills of learning and research to pen proper understandable writ,to confirm the older translations as well.Not that I would accept every translation,but that the majority are carefully kept in line with the main translations used for decades!
Marylou

Knoxville, TN

#430502 Mar 30, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
The Roman Church does not have to be debunked since it was never proven to begin with. It is just a threat to the world, like Islam.


Are you so unhappy in your walk with God that you feel the need to attack the faith of others? Find the peace of God within your soul and learn what it means to be a Christian. PUT AWAY YOUR HATRED - IT IS NOT FROM GOD.

Blessed are the peacemakers.
Marylou

Knoxville, TN

#430503 Mar 30, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Written like a true infidel, that expects to get into heaven by serving a corruptible man in Rome Italy.
Mat_4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Luk_4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
You label others as infidels yet you are barely literate and misspelled your own name.

Dear Lord. What can be done for such ignorance? You break the heart of Jesus with your prideful hatred. How many years have you spent this way? So sad for you.

Jesus is the head of the Catholic church. He is the only way to salvation. JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. HE CAN SET YOU FREE.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#430504 Mar 30, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
The Roman Church does not have to be debunked since it was never proven to begin with. It is just a threat to the world, like Islam.
The FACT is socci,God allowed all that we see for His purpose.Even though His perfect Will may not be seen,we see His mercy and tollerance exercised in the fact that there are solid witnesses of truth in all affiliations of Christian endeavor.

I find dogmatic assertations that any Christian affiliation is anti-Christ to be against what Jesus said of divided kingdoms."A kingdom divided against itself will cease." Christians all have the same sources of keeping the truth alive.

If there are 100 people within a denomination or church who do not have a clue,there are at least ten who do,and they continue to witness to the truth.

The testimony of the righteous can be found in every church,denomination and group or congregation.

Christians who are serious with God in Christ will herald the real and living truth as to WHO and WHAT Jesus is,regardless of their traditions and practices.The Holy Spirit knows no barriers when it comes to the Christians,He looks beyond their differences,and brings about a unity that is Christ-centered.

We always meet believers who are in love with Jesus in every affiliation that claims to be Christian.EVEN the cults have people who love Jesus and worship Him by their lives,good conduct,good and righteous living.Yes we have His standard,but He is omnipresent,and all affiliations in Christ are given the true witness of Who and What Jesus is in truth.

To catorgorize any group as to being anti-Christ is to say that the Holy Spirit is not able to penetrate their wall of faith which is first of all desiring to be in Communion with Christ.

However I also believe that many obstacles are rising in all denominations:greed,malice,inf ighting and so on to challenge the delicate fiber of truth in us all.

Some no doubt are more in sync with Christ than others,but the gospel and the truth concerning HIM,is to be shared,not to be locked away in a dogmatic collection of beliefs,causing us to be isolated rather than to be transparent for the glory of God.AS HE wants to share with us all the beauty and majesty of His dear Son.All Christians must be convinced of His love,not just some of us.The light of Christ is for all believers,not just a handful who want to isloate themselves for puritanical reasons.

When I hear about sins and violations of Christians anywhere in the Christian world,naturally I am sadened,but I know that the Light of Christ is to expose sin,not to allow it to fester into maggots. We are called to be light bearers,and actually the whole of Christianity has that LIGHT,We can illumine the human race with the truth,but we also can bring darkness by our actions as well.

However we are also called to expose the darkness,submitting to the light and truth of the Precious Holy Spirit.That is painful!And all through history the forces of GOOD,and evil, have warred against one another.Our time is no different!
Marylou

Knoxville, TN

#430505 Mar 30, 2013
Jesus died so that we can have eternal life. ALL OF US. You should be joyfully glorifying the name of God instead of bickering amongst yourself over who is the better Christian. It is just like when the Apostles argued over which one of them was Jesus's favorite. All these years later and you "christians" have learned nothing.

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